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These are replys to the video!!!
i don't understand.
that was terrifying.
how can that make you happy?
that's what we call deus ex machina.
a happy ending which doesnt fit into the story.
i hate that. it just makes me feel like the character was already doomed beyond redemption.
people don't kill themselves because evil forces tell them to. {{with the exception of schitzophrenics, sometimes}} they do it because they don't think they're worth living, or they don't want to face the world.
i'm biased. i almost threw up when she slit her wrists on stage.
Kitykatgirl wrote:
wow, i didn't think anybody would see it that way...umm the devil is evil and people who kill themselves are just following the sin that the devil makes look so good!! I'm a cutter too and pretty in to it but since i've come to Christ i've learned that ANYONE can be saved...i have!! God is all powerful and is always there for YOU, exmotional!! He will shed light on your life and bring happiness, true happiness into your life. and it is a happy ending...God saved her in the ending, He died on the cross just for YOU and wants to help you and protect you. A relationship with the Lord will let you understand why your life is worth living and why you should face the world! I have had a bad past, done everything in that video and worse but i KNOW THAT GOD STILL LOVES ME!!
please pm me if you want to talk, i'm very reasonable and will listen.
-Sarah
my viewpoint is skewed. i've experienced some... scary things... in the house of the Lord. The thing is, God wasn't there for me. Somebody was... but among other things he was a Satanist, which i believe you frown upon. The devil makes being selfish seem okay, as far as i can tell. He isn't there to make you hurt others, he's there to spread chaos and discord.
Besides, it wasn't God, as such. It was a person who knew her, and cared for her. Jesus died on the cross, not God, and he didn't really die, he just moved on. i already know my life is worth living, and it's got nothing to do with God anymore. i pray for people when it's what they want, because i know if it does anything, at the very least, it will tell them i care.
God is not a man or a woman, neither is the Devil. They are concepts, whether they're real or not. To give them a face and a gender is to belittle their supposedly almighty power, and it's one of the many things about the church that still confuses me.
i appreciate your offer, and if i had anything worth discussing today, i would accept it, but today i am not in an especially friendly or outgoing state of mind, and will spend my time distracting myself from my own problems by helping other people with theirs.
i'm sorry if i appear to have insulted your god, it will never be my intention, but i find some perceptions of God to be disturbingly skewed and very very pointed.
in all honesty, i do love you, and think you're a wonderful person, and to me God has no place to be saying he loves people when he doesn't know them. We know each other, and can give each other all the love we will ever need, without a preist telling us it's what we should do.
I understand where your coming from. I had to look away for a moment at the point where she slit her wrist. But I think what it represents is the fact that we are all doomed beyond redemption because of our sin. That is where Jesus comes in. He comes and forgives us of our sins and saves us from situations that seem hopeless. So atleast the way I see it every time a person gets saved by Jesus it is a deus ex machina. I am just stating my view I really don't want to argue with you I can't stand argueing
do see where both of you are coming from, but thats what i love about this video....you can interpret it different ways!! i'm just thankful that you guys were moved enough to even reply! thanks guys!!
I used to think the same thing. I spent years trying to embrace "Christ", embrace "God" until I woke up one day and realized the harder I tried, the more often I turned to "them" the worse everything became for me. I realized that I did not believe that "Christ" was "God"'s son sent to Earth. I realized that I did not believe in "God" as most people see and portray him. It was through those realizations only that I was able to start recovering.
oddly enough i respect you for that. although i don't believe the same as you and wish that a relationship with Christ was what you needed but whatever helps and works for you is great!! maybe one day you can walk freely with the Lord.
but _____ i really respect you and have seen a lot of your posts so i have nothing bad to say but i just wanted to make a point.
thanks
And with reading that, aint no ******** way am I watching that I cannot stand watching others cut, let alone kill themselves. And I agree 100% with you exmotional. No ******** evil forces make people kill themselves. Aside from schizo's, or when people are high, but that on the other hand is a different story in an entirity.
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This might piss some of the christians off in this guild but ... ******** jesus. I am by no means christian nor do i think of jesus as my "High mighty savoir" I think he was just some person, possibly schizo, that preached about a higher being. Did you know he was a jew? And more of likely not white as everyone says. He was born in an arabic part of the world and is most likely not white.
I'm satanic. I'm not here to argue with ya'll, but I am not christian nor do I think high of jesus or "god". Sorry if that offends anyone, but I have the freedom of religion and I choose to express it to what I feel is right.
Honestly I don't see how people can rant and try to tell others that this 'God' of yours wants to protect us and help.If that were true,he's been doing one hell of a shitty job at it.I mean I understand,people believen different things,but it annoys me when people try to push you into a religion and say things that for a lot of people,just aren't true.I just don't see how this 'lord' or 'God' has 'saved' anyone.We make our own decisions weather it's for the worse or the better.
If it's for the worse,I don't see why it should be considered a 'sin' it's just a mistake.
And if it's for the better I don't see why we're giving someone we truly don't even know,the credit for our own courage and bravery to make the decision.
I think it comes down to what we do,not someone we don't clearly know and give credit to when it's something we did and not him.
This 'God' doesn't make decisions for us,we do it on our own and frankly if he cared oh-so-much,we wouldn't be where we are today,he would've stopped us instead of calling it a sin and making us feel bad and think we actually need forgiveness from anyone in that matter.
I watched the movie the day it was posted and I couldn't find a way to respond where it didn't sound rude,and I tried but after you posted things from the bible,it's like you're trying to pressure us and make us feel bad so we think its the only thing that'll save us.
He won't save us.
We do that on our own.
no no no i dont want to pressure anything on anybody i just wanted to show my view!! please, i'm so not a fighter and would hate to think that anyone was mad at me!! i'm sorry to those of you who took it that way (and i do see how you could have) but that was not what i meant!!
i'm very sorry i wished for you to understand not accept.
-Sarah
Everyone please stop all of this fighting. There are different view points on this issue just accept it and don't attack each other. Fighting like this doesn't lead to any thing bennificial to anyone. It just serves as a source for more conflict.
Yeah, I agree with _______. That's all I'm saying about that.
I saw this skit when I went to a concert. At first I was like, "What the hell are those people doing?" and then it like, dawned on me. The guy was Jesus and all of the other people were temptations. (I'm slow. I'm not even kidding you... I'm really really slow.) I didn't really like how some of it was portrayed, and I still don't, but I think it's a really moving piece.
o.O
Things that humans do don't make me cry, sure its symbolic, but um, I'm catholic and everything but, It just doesn't "move" me. I can see how it affects others though, and I get the message, but...yeah.
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