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 Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:26 am
God damn Russian Revolution!
Stupid, stressful half-yearly modern-history exam in two days mad <******** KNOWLEDGE REPELLING BRAIN!
I am woooondering.
Did anyone else become interested/informed of these political subjects through school, like me? Did your school actually breach these topics?
When and how did you become interested in communism and politics?
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:19 pm
First off I'll be frank, you scare me sometimes comrade, but with out characters in this guild we would look like a bunch of political chatty-cathys to those active in politics and to the inactive we'd look like pricks.
I did not learn of socialism in school, or at least I didn't learn it's up-side. I'm surprised you didn't come out of class with the notion that communists are merely fascists with a base ideal of equality that is merely used in the taking over of governments, or that communism died with the Soviet Union, thats what I got out of my government education in middle school. I had to personally research socialism to understand it and come to love it. I have to say I first learned of it when researching a poverty-stricken Latin-American country (Guatemala incidentally the bloody revolution by the US backed contra installed because of complaints by the United Fruit Company against the communist government was the same revolution that radicalized Che to believe in revolution) for a elementary school project. Of course if your in college (esp. Evergreen State College) you have more choices of classes and may find a more liberal outlook on socialism.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:20 pm
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:24 pm
I learned about communism in 5th grade when we were allowed to do projects on any war/conflict ever so I just looked at world war 2 leading me to Stalin (who I hate), I was going to do the USSR in world war 2 but my dad (communist) directed me to Lenin, I read about Lenin and the next year read more and learned more, leading me to Trotsky, Marx, Mao, Bakunin and Fidel leading me to Che (I knew who he was but hadn't read his works) and so on.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:27 pm
I always (sadly) was told that the Communist and Socialist parties were BAD! They always caused poverty, war, suffering, executions, deaths, etc etc etc and the list can go on with the rest of American propeganda and brainwashing.
So then later on in 8th grade we were doing a presentation on governments, and I chose mine on Socialism and read into it. Then I started to realize... What the base beliefs of socialism were, compared to the soviet and fascist forms of socialism, very different. So i learned THE TRUTH! Obviously the teacher attempted to "correct me" because she wanted me to tell the class that socialism/communism was EVIL AND BAD! I obviously had my heart set on the light of equality and the real truth of it. The rest of the term the teacher hated me but oh well...
And continuing my story, back two years ago in 10th grade youth issues class, we had to teach the class about a topic for one day. While everyone chose the more obvious choices, poverty, teen preg, drugs, etc... Me and my friend Anthony decided that SOCIALISM was a good thing to teach the class. We compared it to capitalism in games and such, overheads, and obviously changed a whole class of 30+ people's mindsets on the american brainwashing of ANTI-SOCIALISM / COMMUNISM. The teacher took me off and told me and anthony not to lie about it. We showed her the websites, and the exerpts of things we found. Proved her wrong.
Thats my story of how I began to know and love the truths of equality. The Truths of the future of the world. The Truths of Socialism - Communism left-winging.
That was a long rant hehe...
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:31 pm
I to learned more in a 7th grade class; of course it was on a self researched project. As I move into high-school the acceptance of less censored text-books has risen, but that may be because I live in a blue state. Hopefully the high-schools will be more open to such things as political clubs.
Though in history it is seemingly prominent, there is no good-or-evil side just different points of view, and to be factored in are the bias and censorship components that is what makes written history. Howard Zinn makes a wonderful point of this in his A People's History Of The United States.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:23 am
Completely random; but think about it.
"One who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
-Benjamin Franklin
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:23 am
Grey Completely random; but think about it.
"One who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
-Benjamin Franklin I agree, it's too often forgotten in these modern times that when we let ourselves be scared to the point of giving up basic liberties such as Habeas Corpus, we are becoming slaves to the capitalists, who, if we keep it up, will eventually become fascists as capitalism decays.
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:16 pm
Too right mate, too right. That's what happened to Germany, and on a fictitious note, Star Wars.
In my opinion, this whole thing with terrorism has made people so blind with fear that they can't even see that they're getting the rug pulled out from under them. Don't they realize that humanity is repeating it's mistakes?
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:20 am
The Leninator! Grey Completely random; but think about it.
"One who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
-Benjamin Franklin I agree, it's too often forgotten in these modern times that when we let ourselves be scared to the point of giving up basic liberties such as Habeas Corpus, we are becoming slaves to the capitalists, who, if we keep it up, will eventually become fascists as capitalism decays. indeed, this is very much a desturbing occurence in the current government of the United States. The Patriot Act is barbaric and should never have been passed. Because when you get down to it, who decides who is and isn't a terrorist? There is no man capable of destinguishing the criteria 100% of the time fairly, and even less likely a man who would be willing to do so. the other side effect of this, is the effect upon ignorance. Too many people now believe that all terrorists are Muslim and all Muslims are terrorists. It is unbelievable that few even recognize the fact that they are people too, and that there really are far fewer terrorists then we see. Indeed, it is only in the Right wing ideologies of yesterday: Nazism, and Italian Fascism that we see that Minorities as well as criminals weren't considered just evil, nor were they just considered evil jews. They were often called by the easy name of "terrorists". That Quote is a very good one, I've read it many times before and reminds me of one I found, that was surprisinlgy said by Eisenhower. And is one that is surprisngly relevent even today: Quote: "If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom." -Dwight D. Eisenhower -Lazar
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