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So far our toll *as presented in the Stars and Stripes* our kill rate for non-compatents is some where between 5000 to 7000. As for the enemy? The Stars and Stripes, and just about any other newspaper out there that isnt as biased as you are (very view) has tottaled thei intentional and non-intentianl kill rate of innocent civilians not invovled in the war to some where between 100,000 to 150,000

The point of madern warfare is to force the enemy o surrender while brining harm to as fiew civillians as possible. The militaries purpose is not to kill and destroy civilians, even though it happens.

But, if Hanoi Seraph here wants to go to cannada, thats fine, good luck. Every one I know who tried to obtain canadian citizenship quit after all the red tape they had to go through, those who did do it ended up waitign six months to a full year

yes, my system, as all, will fall prey to human corruption. however, capitalism seems to be MADE for human corruption, made to sway and flow and follow it. that's not good either. it stands BECAUSE of greed and lying and human corruption.

it's sort of one of those"better to rule in hell than serve in heaven" versus "better to serve in heaven than rule in hell" sort of deals, though not exactly... it's more like "better to give in to human greed than be crushed by it" versus "better to be crushed by human greed than to give in to it"

i wouldn't say earned, when a baseball playr makes 530 million per GAME, while a schoolteacher earns 30,000 a year.

many people don't earn their money, they either cheat or lie or do useless things for it. and this pushes down those who really DO work, like teachers and firefighters and police officers and factory workers. name 3 sports stars, name 3 pop idols. now, name the guy who made the modern theory of the atom. name the astronaughts on the first flight to the moon. name any 3 people who helped build the empire state building with their hands and labor.

i see these values as twisted, when we pay more to and know more about people so useless as singers and game-players, than about those who produce, protect and make this society grow.

it's some pitcher, i forget the name.

and yes, entertainment is nice. but it should NEVER be worth more than a teacher. never.

that is a gross injustice in the system. baseball should be 50 cents a game- that way, with around 150,000 people per stadium, each person makes about one or two thousand per game. that's a good deal of money to play a game, don't you think?

no, i don't think it was him.

but anyway, that is why i tend to dislike capitalism. it's not just a little change, it is a MASSIVE, GROSS difference in pay.

if you feel this way, never complain about a lack of money. if you feel this way, remind yourself, you can never be downtrodden, just work harder or do soemthing more marketable. just do it.

i'm sure you are beyond the logic of preschool, that whole "you can do anything you want when you grow up"- how many of us are astronaughts? how many of us a rockstars and sports stars? just "being something else" is not an option, and those lucky enough to get those positions live in opulence. even IF it is "only" 4.4 million per year, for a game, that is at least a little comfortable, considering that the force that drives our nation gets payed one hundredth of that for actual work.

i do not want to kill sports. i do not want to kill entertainment. i want them to be paid fairly, considering that they currently make a hundredfold of what the working man makes.

it doesn't matter how many clients there are, what they do is not as important as teaching. and you seem to imply that they make a marginal difference more. they make what 100 teachers make. one person. to play a game. i don't care how "unique" their technique is, they don't deserve that.

You are comparing star players to ordinary teachers.

Take a teacher making 6 digits and compare it. It's not as much as a baseball player, but it's a lot because those teachers are the best of the best, just like those players are the best of the best.

A minor league player makes as much per month as my middle school religion teacher made per month. A public school teacher makes more than a minor league baseball player, in most cases.

So what you're saying isn't even true, that baseball players are paid more than teachers. Baseball STARS are paid more than teachers. Educational STARS are paid more than other teachers, too. Expert craftsman make more. Most scientists make more than minor leaguers.

You are comparing the best of one group to the average (at best) of another group. I have said before, star baseball players make a lot of money. I have not said it's a marginal difference. I HAVE said there are other people who make a lot more than most teachers, but that doesn't matter to you I suppose since you've decided their work is more valuable.

It's like I've been saying all along, the public chooses where to spend its money. They choose to spend it on the stars. They choose to spend it on baseball, football, soccer, basketball. A lot of them also choose to spend it on education if they aren't satisfied with the public school system. In these cases, they aren't paying 30 dollars for a seat in a stadium, they're paying thousands of dollars. My parents paid more per day for education than that, and that was with a scholarship. In fact, for a third of the cost of my education per year, my parents could have gone to each baseball game of the season. More of their money went to the teachers than went to baseball players, and yet, the teachers STILL made less. Why is this?

Because the baseball players. Serviced. More. People. They could take more money in because they only took a little bit from each person. Making 27,000 per game, in a stadium of 150,000 people, that's 18 cents per person going to that player per game. An elementary school teacher making 500 a week, in a classroom of 30 students, that's $2.38 per student per day. That's over 13 times more than the highest paid member on the baseball team is getting per person.

Do you see where I'm going with this? We are paying our teachers more than we are paying our baseball players in terms of percentage. The problem is, teachers can't possibly teach as many people as baseball players can entertain, so baseball players do end up getting more.

But then again, there are teachers out there earning much more than other teachers. There's a MASSIVE, GROSS difference in their pay. Heck, with baseball players, there's a MASSIVE, GROSS difference between the minors and the majors. They are making a hundredfold of what working people do...because they have a hundredfold more customers paying them. Of course it matters how many clients there are. The more clients, the more people paying, the more money you make.

By the way...the government does put money into sporting events. They pay for stadiums and their upkeep in a lot of cases. I believe some of the ticket price of a game goes directly to the government, but I'm not entirely sure. The government isn't paying individual players, but it is basically funding teams.