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Sevant Anatra

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:06 pm


in the flicker.
it seems like with pastels you need to find a happy combination between smudging and rough hatching/lines. i have yet to really do that, but i'm getting closer. i should play with mine more often xd

one thing i don't like about pastels is that it's one of those mediums where you really can't touch the paper after you've put pastel on it, otherwise it will a) get dirt from your fingers on it and b) transfer the color from one place to another in nice fingerprint shapes confused which is a problem i sometimes have.



There are some tricks for future reference:
1) One way to avoid accidental smudging
is to place a paper towel under the hand you
are drawing with. Or if you stand up while you
draw on an easel, you can find a long sturdy
lightweight stick and use your free hand to
hold it so you could have an "arm rest" for your
working hand.

2)If you have over-worked a part of your
artwork, ( as in put on too much pastel), you can
a paint brush to lightly dust it off, ( not too hard of
bristles or too soft), but you can use just about any
kind of brush. ( art is all about FREEDOM OF EXPERIMENATION!)

3)As for blending, you can use a variety of
things! for example:
-Q-tips
-cotton balls
-soft cloth/ paper towels/tissues
-moleskin(no not real moleskin)
-fingertip (obvious I know), and if you
don't want to get your fingers dirty you can either
wrap a small piece of paper towel around the pastel
piece where you'll be holding it.
-Torchon ( blendy stick/ it's that white paper
tightly rolled up)


4) one thing to remember with pastels is to
make sure to have fixative on hand so that you can
spray the work so it won't easily be messed up. Be sure
to read the instructions beforehand because fixative
can be toxic.





If anyone has any questions about art, just pm me and I will hel to the best of my ability.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:13 pm


and actually, i wouldn't recommend using your fingers...ever. not on graphite, charcoal, pastels...you really should try to avoid touching your artwork in general because the oils in your hands can distort the colors and/or texture of the media.

i actually prefer to use a paper stump rather than a tortilion (sp?) simply because paper stumps are smooth and smudge smoothly, while tortillions tend to have hard lines which transfer onto the smudging.

also, I don't like the idea of using a paper towel between my hand and the drawing. a paper towel is porous, and will pick up the pastel. I use a sheet of copy paper--it's smooth and clean, doesn't pick up much pastel.

with fixative, i've found that it requires multiple coats to make it even close to "fool proof" so that i can touch it without picking up pastel.

you've got some nice tips, though. whatever works, right?

in the flicker.


mystifyingbliss

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:04 am


Charcoal, all the way to Andromeda and back. Charcoal is the ideal medium for me, because my speciality is black-and-white realism, with lots of difference in lighting and plenty of different shades. I also love using my fingertips when I work, for smudging in particular.

I also love pastels and oil paint.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:25 pm


Ah, another pastel and charcoal user, eh? I can only step back and admire such works. xd

To each their own, as far as the smudging utensils go. If it works for you, then it works. Though, I personally have trouble keeping my smudgy fingerprints from spreading to another part of the picture where it is less desirable.

euclids_triangle

Dapper Phantom


in the flicker.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:57 pm


euclids_triangle
Ah, another pastel and charcoal user, eh? I can only step back and admire such works. xd

To each their own, as far as the smudging utensils go. If it works for you, then it works. Though, I personally have trouble keeping my smudgy fingerprints from spreading to another part of the picture where it is less desirable.


that's the trick, really. once you've got that down, you can start drawing! lol.

i prefer smudginess to the exact "you messed up here" nature of permanent utensils like inks, but i've gotten a lot better with my lines, if i do say so.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:41 pm


lol.

Ohymigosh, I'm so fed up with my lineart... I can't seem to get my lines to look decent... I'm thinking of trying out a brush and India ink to see if that helps any. Right now, my pens and I are fighting every step of the way.

euclids_triangle

Dapper Phantom


in the flicker.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:31 pm


euclids_triangle
lol.

Ohymigosh, I'm so fed up with my lineart... I can't seem to get my lines to look decent... I'm thinking of trying out a brush and India ink to see if that helps any. Right now, my pens and I are fighting every step of the way.


I think my pens might just hate me. either that or i have a subconscious need to mess up my line art by pulling the pen a little to far here, making an almost wiggly line there....

i think i sabotage myself xd
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:29 am


euclids_triangle
Ah, another pastel and charcoal user, eh? I can only step back and admire such works. xd

To each their own, as far as the smudging utensils go. If it works for you, then it works. Though, I personally have trouble keeping my smudgy fingerprints from spreading to another part of the picture where it is less desirable.


hehe. I like using charcoal and pastel too. Mostly charcoal and chalk, using the colour of the paper as one shade, and then add hints of colour if need be. I like the roughness of it, and the looseness....I find it easier to shade because depending how hard you press onto the paper you can get different tones, or use different methods such as cross-hatching etc, which is pretty impossible with paint, every time you want a different shade you have to mix it.

One way to stop finger prints is to keep a tissue with you to rest your hand on, on the area of picture where you haven't drawn yet. Once the page starts to get full though, just keep wiping your hand.

Shadow__Dweller


Sevant Anatra

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:46 am


in the flicker.
euclids_triangle
lol.

Ohymigosh, I'm so fed up with my lineart... I can't seem to get my lines to look decent... I'm thinking of trying out a brush and India ink to see if that helps any. Right now, my pens and I are fighting every step of the way.


I think my pens might just hate me. either that or i have a subconscious need to mess up my line art by pulling the pen a little to far here, making an almost wiggly line there....

i think i sabotage myself xd

That's how I feel about pens... I kinda like using a brush and india ink... But I don't like the fact that you can't exactly erase any mistakes, only go over the area and hope that you didn't mess it up even more or get some white ink...Even the white ink doesn't work all the time (especially if you water it down a bit...)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:33 am


Soul Turned Blue
in the flicker.
euclids_triangle
lol.

Ohymigosh, I'm so fed up with my lineart... I can't seem to get my lines to look decent... I'm thinking of trying out a brush and India ink to see if that helps any. Right now, my pens and I are fighting every step of the way.


I think my pens might just hate me. either that or i have a subconscious need to mess up my line art by pulling the pen a little to far here, making an almost wiggly line there....

i think i sabotage myself xd

That's how I feel about pens... I kinda like using a brush and india ink... But I don't like the fact that you can't exactly erase any mistakes, only go over the area and hope that you didn't mess it up even more or get some white ink...Even the white ink doesn't work all the time (especially if you water it down a bit...)


I like to use Indian Ink and a pen rather than a brush..but you've just got to be careful you don't make mistakes sweatdrop

Shadow__Dweller


asaia bird-winged

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:51 am


Acrylics! blaugh

Oils seem great (apparently they take so long to dry) but I have yet to buy some as they also seem complicated- linseed oil? new brushes strictly for oils? eek

I also use colored pencil because it's easier for me then other dry media- you have a lot of control over it.

Pencils are the classic medium, and I love them because they are so simple compared to other media.

Watercolor: xp . No control. I have no patience; everything bleeds when I use them. I bow down to people who do use them, though.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:04 pm


xd

If Doug stops in again, you can probably ask him about the oils. He does a lot of work with them. biggrin

euclids_triangle

Dapper Phantom

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