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I'm almost brave enough to enter something... Is it too late? xd

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Thank you Bumpers!

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While I still have two promises for entries, please feel free to add yours, as we were hoping for 15 rather than 10.

We will update (add to) our reviews this evening.

I will aslo be correcting a few discrepancies in the threads. Prizes are the higher ones mentioned in the CHARITY thread...

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750
250

Thank you for your patience in this still-new venture! Getting the bugs worked out can be slow going, but hopefully it will not take much longer!

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Mytyl
*waves*

My problem with numbers is that they're not specific enough to be meaningful when doing editing and rewrites. They're easy, but they don't seem to be conducive to your stated goals of growth and learning.

F'rinstance, if I write a story and someone says about it:

Narrative: 3
Comments: I had a hard time following the storyline in some places.

I might have completely different ideas about which bits were confusing, and go through and mess up all the parts that were fine.

'Course, I'm used to doing things a bit... differently. Heh.


The numbers we have are more specific, they denote a more over-all explanation, such as poor, fair, average... the comments should EXPLAIN the numbers. If they don't, tht's not the fault of the numbers themselves, its laziness on the part of the reviewer.

In our case, we try to be specific, but draw the line at TOO specific unless someone asks. Sqarr's first review was very specific for example. And while some of the Peer Reviews are lacking in detail, if there are questions, ask. Some are more interested in actually improving than others.

You did an excellent job, the only complaint I had was you did not specify the catagory each comment was for. I would prefer them to be under each one and not: Comment below.

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Enadariel
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I'm almost brave enough to enter something... Is it too late? xd


Nonono its not too late dahling. Do enter.
Reminder:

According to the contest rules laid out by us, the Foundation Staff, contest submissions and their accompanying reviews should be submitted separately.

Why?

Because when we're making lists of submissions and their reviews [like this], people can't just click on a link to a submission or a review and see just the submission or review they're trying to see if both are in the same post.

I know most people will not be willing to read a contest's rules thoroughly enough to understand them--if at all--but we are hoping to attract participants that aren't just in it for the quick cash hand-outs; people who are willing to put a little more thought and energy into not only their participation in our contests, but also in their writing.

Why?

Because it's a hell of a lot more fun to read something someone cares about than it is to read slammed-out garbage.

"But, Mister Sqarr, I do care about my submission!"

Good! Then we probably will too.

A lot of work's gone into setting this workshop and foundation up to look so nice and clean. The least you all can do is respect that much.

No, I'm not angry. I'm just fairly intense.

I won't kill you. I may just maim you. In some way or other. Depending which direction you happen to be facing at the time.

Thank you all who've participated in any way!

I'll be putting some more of my own reviews up shortly. Sorry, only our first submission will be getting such a large review from me. I'll be keeping it shorter from now on.
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I think its lovely! Thank you again.
<center>!!!ATTENTION!!!</center>

I've noticed that there have been no Peer Reviews of either Misty Amethyst's Tears of Heartbreak, nor Glitch Makoto's The Night Before Christmas.

The next person to submit a piece for this contest should do either of those two. The person after that should do whichever is left.

Unfortunately, that will leave us with three pieces with no Peer Reviews! xp Yes, I realize we technically have three unreviewed right now.

Come on, people. You have to do at least one Peer Review, but you can do more than one if you want! Everyone should get one, to be fair!
Mahayr
I think its lovely! Thank you again.
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NataliaDisfontes
In all actuality, it is more like a new chapter of a plot that I'd left to rest about six months ago and merely a piece of the picture overall. But due to limit constraints and such it was difficult to encompass all of it. This is the piece in which I attempted to recap that which has transpired in between my last stories with her and what hopefully is to come, and it is not set in modern times at all but rather in an era where war devastated the lands.

See, I didn't know all of that. That's interesting.

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And her grandfather in the backhistory of this story which is quite indepth is and was a world reknown violin maker.

I wasn't questioning that he is famous. I was simply explaining that I don't tend to see a use for that sort of thing.

NataliaDisfontes
I studied violin making for two months in preparation for writing his part of the story overall alone.

I've been studying martial arts for years, now, but that doesn't mean I have a belt. wink

NataliaDisfontes
This was my reawakening piece for her, in hopes that it would inspire me to begin anew and take them from the place which they had been left in and progress. But honestly, maybe it's best that she just stay asleep for now.

As I explained, I am an extremely critical person. I also explained that I enjoyed your story.

Certainly, my critique should hardly be enough to can the entire thing. I've felt that way of critiques of my own stuff in the past. It's not worth giving up for a single negative remark. I'm sure you've gotten plenty of positive responses to your writings in the past.

NataliaDisfontes
I didn't honestly enter this so much to be a contestant but to show you guys support as I felt like it was a good thing. I figured what I couldn't contribute in gold, I'd put out there in support. I hope you get alot of entries and kudos to all who do enter.

I'm sorry my review and suggestions weren't what you were hoping for.

I appreciate your support and your submission. I recommended that we give you something for being our first participant ever.

NataliaDisfontes
By the way, the french language in and of itself is meant to be staggered; it's not a rigid form like Japanese or German. 'Vous' in french means 'they' or 'we'.......there's no heirarchy to it.

I am French. And once in a while, I even dream in French. I can think either in English or French. I've lived the vast majority of my life in a French environment. My entire immediate and extended family is French. I remember you explaining in the FoJ thread that you aren't. While I do speak English fairly fluently, I'm sure you can see where I get my confidence in my understanding of the French language and won't take my advice in that regard as being an insult to you.

I've done my level best to be honest and give you everything I could to help you. That was the point of this whole "workshop" thing; to help people. The gold and prizes we're giving out at the end are crap. They're meaningless. Self-expression matters. BUT if you're using your self-expression as some form of entertainment not only for yourself, then you probably want that self-expression to mean as much to others as it does to you. In order for that to happen, you have to be able to flip certain switches in them. Nobody can do that without practice.

Sure, there are the gifted few who never needed a word of advice. But for the rest of us, getting upset over reviews only bogs us down and kills what it is in us that drives us to think and feel the way we do.

We put words, lines, smudges or paint on paper or canvas. Why? For fame? For money? To avoid cutting ourselves?

Why do we do what we do? Why should our audience care? Why do we care?

It's the caring that makes us blow up when someone doesn't quite like what we do. And we will blow up often. Until we get over it and realize that advice is a good thing. You won't please the people whose opinions mean the most to you until you realize that there's something missing; you're not reaching them.

So reach them.

NataliaDisfontes
And it was included because typically it lends to the effect of the piece overall. Call it what you will, but upon reading the first instance of french that accent was firmly embedded in mind for the duration of Papa's argument.

That may be so, but it's not real French.

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And -domo and -chan are affectionate terms, I believe that you might have been referring to -san, -sama, and domaiso.

Actually, it's -dono. I misspelled it. And -dono is used in the same way as -sama.

I used them as examples of how different languages show respect to others. In English, there's "you." He, she, it, "you." In French, there's "vous" and "tu." In Japanese there's no such thing; you say the person's name. Their honorific, in most situations, is expected. If you don't use it, you're making a mistake.

"Vous" is the closest thing to an honorific French has. "Tu" is between equals or people beneath you. Street stuff.

NataliaDisfontes
Eh, I'm thinking about withdrawing it since it isn't what you guys are looking for. Sorry for the bother.


It is what we're looking for. And you're not a bother.

Like I said, I'm sorry I seem rough. It's how I am. It's not personal. I'm not trying to insult you. I'm trying to help you. Please don't withdraw or feel bad.
*grummbles and mutters a little bit* Should I post the story behind the poem as well? Or just the poem itself?

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Sqarr
<center>!!!ATTENTION!!!</center>

I've noticed that there have been no Peer Reviews of either Misty Amethyst's Tears of Heartbreak, nor Glitch Makoto's The Night Before Christmas.

The next person to submit a piece for this contest should do either of those two. The person after that should do whichever is left.

Unfortunately, that will leave us with three pieces with no Peer Reviews! xp Yes, I realize we technically have three unreviewed right now.

Come on, people. You have to do at least one Peer Review, but you can do more than one if you want! Everyone should get one, to be fair!

Mahayr
ATTENTION:

If Misty Amethyst does not submit a review of Cassandra's piece by the time another submission is entered, the person with the next submission will review Cassandra's piece and if Misty wishes to be reconsidered, she will resubmit WITH a review in the proper format of the submission directly before her RE-submission.

Otherwise, Misty's submission will not be considered part of this Contest.

Misty, I apologize if I was unclear, please do feel free to either review now, or if there is another submission, follow the above directions.

Thank you.


An explanation of the confusion:

After the above announcement, Damiascutlass entered and reviewed Culture and Parade as instructed.

The next entry was Glitch's who reviewed Damiascutless's Hell Masked, as Misty had not yet re-submitted.

Misty then did re-submit, but she did so as an edit and not a repost as instructed, making it difficult for the next entrant to decipher without some trouble which one was to then be reviewed. She also reviewed the wrong piece and should have instead reviewed Glitch's.

When Mytyl entered, she should have reviewed Misty's entry as it would have been clear that she had done her review, and even if it was not she should have reviewed Glitch's which was the one right before her own.

As it stands now, Misty should review The Night Before Christmas and Mytyl should review Misty's poem, even though we know poetry is not her favorite.

The alternative would be to consider Misty actually disqualified as her piece was reviewed to indicate that it was not appropriate for this contest, leaving Mytyl to review Glitch's The Night Before Christmas.

My apologies for the confusion, my double apologies to Mytyl. I could have posted after Misty completed her review to indicate who should review what, when. Le sigh.

Live and learn, this will not be repeated in the next Contest.
I don't think it's made clear in the rules that new submissions are supposed to review the submission immediately preceding their own... from reading through them the first time, I thought we were just supposed to pick at least one, and reading through a second time, I still don't see where it says that.

(Misreading the length limts for a minimum was my own fault. sweatdrop )
Hurm.. Spammy spammy spam! Anyway I reviewed the poem, since it needed it. My poem does not need a peer evaluation. biggrin

Also do I need to review the story?

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