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I know there are a lot of Cannabis threads around, but I'm more interested in something else this time.

What is it exactly that makes you think its bad? This isn't so much a discussion of why it should be legal or why it is or isn't harmful. I just want to know WHERE you learned about Marijuana, was it commercials on TV? In high school? or did your parents tell you its bad?

I ask this because I see so many "Pot is bad, Pot is unhealthy for you" but no one really says why or where it was they obtained this information.

So please share, even if you are for Marijuana, tell me where you first learned of the "dangers" of pot.

Keep it civil, use punctuation so people can read your posts and explain thoroughly.

My own explanation:
Having grown up around my parents smoking pot, I was already aware of what it really was and how it affected people. I guess the first time really "learning" about Marijuana was in school, probably 4th or 5th grade when the whole D.A.R.E. campaign and such was popular, they showed us videos about it and how it caused immense crime and personality changes. It was always shown with other hard drugs like Heroine and Cocaine, I noticed a lot of people bought into it, I never could though and was often dismayed by what was told about it, having seen it in my life daily. I choose to learn more about it over time, even asking my mom for information. Eventually I came to the conclusion I have now, that Marijuana is a VERY low risk drug, that is even less harmful and damaging socially than Alcohol.


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The reason I created the thread.. Because a lot of people dont even know where they learned about Marijuana or WHY they think its bad. Society has simply bashed Marijuana so much that people are afraid to learn or speak out about it.

SunflowerQueen
You know, for the longest time I had this negative opinion about marijuana, but this thread got me thinking, and I cannot remember where I heard it was bad, or why I felt that way.

Most people probably either learned all their information through DARE or anti-drug commercials, which lump pot in with other things that actually ARE dangerous, exaggerate, or just lie or misrepresent marijuana. Or they heard it from their parents/teachers/other adults who are merely spewing the DARE facts THEY were told as children, and the cycle begins anew.

I've noticed that those who believe pot to be safe, or at least relatively harmless, can provide a lot more proof in their favor than those who oppose marijuana or think it's bad, simply because they are only basing their opinions on propaganda or other things they've been told.


My blanket response on Marijuana as a gateway drug:
Quote:

Marijuana does not make you desire to try other drugs, in fact I think the reason people try others is because THE GOVERNMENT LIES about Marijuana and its affects. People try pot and think, hey this isn't anything like what school taught me, I don't go crazy, maybe other drugs are the same way. This is one of my strongest reasonings on why Marijuana should be legalized (which we wont get into).

Lying about things is always going to have adverse affects, people will eventually find out and want to know what else is a lie.
well it causes lung cancer ....
and brain damage and sezures
mariana del la noche
well it causes lung cancer ....
and brain damage and sezures


Try reading the post, I didn't ask what it supposedly does, I asked where you learned the info you are posting. Who told you this? Have you tried it and experienced these problems? have you seen them personally? Read the whole first post, or don't bother posting at all.
those who say it has health benifit's like for glaucoma are right ... but it accuatly makes your eye sight worse if you don't hve glaucoma ...it is also bad for your contacts
mariana del la noche
well it causes lung cancer ....
and brain damage and sezures


Sorry Shadowlost I gotta educate her, it's a pet peeve of mine.


# The U.S. Pharmacopoeia indicated cannabis should be used for treating such ailments as fatigue, fits of coughing, rheumatism, asthma, delirium tremens, migraine headaches, and the cramps and depressions associated with menstruation. 3
# In this century, cannabis research has demonstrated therapeutic value and complete safety in the treatment of many health problems including asthma, glaucoma, nausea, tumors, epilepsy, infection, stress, migraines, anorexia, depression, rheumatism, arthritis, and possibly herpes.
http://www.hempcar.org/hempfacts.shtml



Okay now back on topic, I saw the DARE videos and they actually made me more curious about drugs something about taking something and turning your life into a cartoon was really cool too me.


I did my research found out dare was wrong.

Now I'm a happy, healthy "Pot Head"
Shadowlost
mariana del la noche
well it causes lung cancer ....
and brain damage and sezures


Try reading the post, I didn't ask what it supposedly does, I asked where you learned the info you are posting. Who told you this? Have you tried it and experienced these problems? have you seen them personally? Read the whole first post, or don't bother posting at all.
the hippie who has lung cancer cause he smoke ...he lives next door ...he says hi...and is making the peace sign
mariana del la noche
those who say it has health benifit's like for glaucoma are right ... but it accuatly makes your eye sight worse if you don't hve glaucoma ...it is also bad for your contacts


okay... lets try this again, this time I will put it in a way maybe you denser people can understand.

READ THE POST. Jesus...


Lehr: lol, good ol' D.A.R.E. I have a feeling that will be the majority response.
mariana del la noche
Shadowlost
mariana del la noche
well it causes lung cancer ....
and brain damage and sezures


Try reading the post, I didn't ask what it supposedly does, I asked where you learned the info you are posting. Who told you this? Have you tried it and experienced these problems? have you seen them personally? Read the whole first post, or don't bother posting at all.
the hippie who has lung cancer cause he smoke ...he lives next door ...he says hi...and is making the peace sign


Uh....


The Washington Post
The Washington Post
Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection
Friday, May 26, 2006
(source)

The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

Federal health and drug enforcement officials have widely used Tashkin's previous work on marijuana to make the case that the drug is dangerous. Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful, its cancer-causing effects appear to be of less concern than previously thought.

Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.

Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.

They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.

"This is the largest case-control study ever done, and everyone had to fill out a very extensive questionnaire about marijuana use," he said. "Bias can creep into any research, but we controlled for as many confounding factors as we could, and so I believe these results have real meaning."

Tashkin's group at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA had hypothesized that marijuana would raise the risk of cancer on the basis of earlier small human studies, lab studies of animals, and the fact that marijuana users inhale more deeply and generally hold smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers -- exposing them to the dangerous chemicals for a longer time. In addition, Tashkin said, previous studies found that marijuana tar has 50 percent higher concentrations of chemicals linked to cancer than tobacco cigarette tar.

While no association between marijuana smoking and cancer was found, the study findings, presented to the American Thoracic Society International Conference this week, did find a 20-fold increase in lung cancer among people who smoked two or more packs of cigarettes a day.

The study was limited to people younger than 60 because those older than that were generally not exposed to marijuana in their youth, when it is most often tried.



Once again...

Sorry.
Shadowlost
mariana del la noche
those who say it has health benifit's like for glaucoma are right ... but it accuatly makes your eye sight worse if you don't hve glaucoma ...it is also bad for your contacts


okay... lets try this again, this time I will put it in a way maybe you denser people can understand.

READ THE POST. Jesus...


Lehr: lol, good ol' D.A.R.E. I have a feeling that will be the majority response.


That seems to happen alot, and the ABOVE THE INFLUENCE COMERICALLS DUN DUN DUNNN


Sorry for trying to educate her... It's like my biggest pet peeve in the world, I think I'm done with that, I'll just link her to my huge post.
i see no problems with smoking pot, i do it all the time, there are no major harmful effects, ok its a little bad for your lungs but so is smoking cigs
Lehr
mariana del la noche
well it causes lung cancer ....
and brain damage and sezures


Sorry Shadowlost I gotta educate her, it's a pet peeve of mine.


# The U.S. Pharmacopoeia indicated cannabis should be used for treating such ailments as fatigue, fits of coughing, rheumatism, asthma, delirium tremens, migraine headaches, and the cramps and depressions associated with menstruation. 3
# In this century, cannabis research has demonstrated therapeutic value and complete safety in the treatment of many health problems including asthma, glaucoma, nausea, tumors, epilepsy, infection, stress, migraines, anorexia, depression, rheumatism, arthritis, and possibly herpes.
http://www.hempcar.org/hempfacts.shtml



Okay now back on topic, I saw the DARE videos and they actually made me more curious about drugs something about taking something and turning your life into a cartoon was really cool too me.


I did my research found out dare was wrong.

Now I'm a happy, healthy "Pot Head"
..*stuffes into duffel bag* ..... if you aren't sick then dont take it ...... it's like taking cancer medicince if you don't have cancer ...it will do more harm than good
In my own experience, pot is basically harmless unless it is lased. I had a panic attack with lased pot, im pretty sure it was laced with PCP, I duno though.... other than that pot has been completely harmless for me.
....and dont yell at me for "not reading the post". I POST WHAT I WANT!!!! twisted

That would be in primary school, retarded drama thingymajig, showing somebopdy trying pot, going crazy, nicking money, loosing all his freinds and generally acting like an imbecile.

And people thought that was what actually happend xDD

Oh- and we have a unit in citizenship on it, more groups comeing in at random times in school, assemblies, jah. So far, none of these 'experts' has put the other side foward =3
Lehr
mariana del la noche
Shadowlost
mariana del la noche
well it causes lung cancer ....
and brain damage and sezures


Try reading the post, I didn't ask what it supposedly does, I asked where you learned the info you are posting. Who told you this? Have you tried it and experienced these problems? have you seen them personally? Read the whole first post, or don't bother posting at all.
the hippie who has lung cancer cause he smoke ...he lives next door ...he says hi...and is making the peace sign


Uh....


The Washington Post
The Washington Post
Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection
Friday, May 26, 2006
(source)

The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

Federal health and drug enforcement officials have widely used Tashkin's previous work on marijuana to make the case that the drug is dangerous. Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful, its cancer-causing effects appear to be of less concern than previously thought.

Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.

Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.

They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.

"This is the largest case-control study ever done, and everyone had to fill out a very extensive questionnaire about marijuana use," he said. "Bias can creep into any research, but we controlled for as many confounding factors as we could, and so I believe these results have real meaning."

Tashkin's group at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA had hypothesized that marijuana would raise the risk of cancer on the basis of earlier small human studies, lab studies of animals, and the fact that marijuana users inhale more deeply and generally hold smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers -- exposing them to the dangerous chemicals for a longer time. In addition, Tashkin said, previous studies found that marijuana tar has 50 percent higher concentrations of chemicals linked to cancer than tobacco cigarette tar.

While no association between marijuana smoking and cancer was found, the study findings, presented to the American Thoracic Society International Conference this week, did find a 20-fold increase in lung cancer among people who smoked two or more packs of cigarettes a day.

The study was limited to people younger than 60 because those older than that were generally not exposed to marijuana in their youth, when it is most often tried.
then why does he have cancer?


Once again...

Sorry.
D.A.R.E. (I didn't even graduate from D.A.R.E. ninja )

Above The Influence on TV (God those commercials make me want to end myself)

Stupid people who say it's bad but don't know why (from everywhere on the Internet, schools, church, family members etc.)


None of which are credible sources.

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