Rain of Oceans88
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- Posted: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:12:20 +0000
rolleyes Ok...go ahead, flame me. But if you flame me, please read what I have to say first.
Guilty as charged. I think America is the greatest country on this planet...sorry if that totally pisses you off but my opinion isn't going to change just because some kid from Canada who was taught to hate Americans called me a stuck up a** for claiming my country is the greatest.
Throwing out the facts:
Source Citation: http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1700
America -- as the greatest product of Western civilization -- is the greatest country in the world. But it cannot remain great unless we understand the causes of its greatness.
There are three fundamental respects in which Western culture is objectively the best. The core values and achievements of Western civilization -- the values that made America great -- are:
1. Reason. The Greeks were the first to identify philosophically that knowledge is gained through reason and logic as opposed to mysticism (faith, tradition, revelation, dogma). It would take two millennia, including a Dark Ages and a Renaissance, before the full implications of Greek thought would be realized. The rule of reason reached its zenith in the West in the 18th century -- the Age of Enlightenment. "For the first time in modern history," writes one philosopher, "an authentic respect for reason became the mark of an entire culture." America is the epitome of Enlightenment thought.
2. Individual Rights. An indispensable achievement leading to the Enlightenment was the recognition of the concept of individual rights. John Locke demonstrated that individuals do not exist to serve governments, but rather that governments exist to protect individuals. The individual, said Locke, has an inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of his own happiness. This was the founding philosophy of America. (America made a disastrous error by tolerating slavery, which originated elsewhere, but it was too incongruent with America's core principles of reason and rights to endure and was corrected in the name of those principles.)
3. Science and Technology. The triumph of reason and rights made possible the full development and application of science and technology and ultimately modern industrial society. Once man's mind was freed from the tyranny of religious dogma, and man's productive capacity was freed from the tyranny of state control, scientific and technological progress followed in several interdependent steps. Men began to understand the laws of nature. They invented machinery. They engaged in large-scale production, that is, the creation of wealth. This wealth, in turn, financed and motivated further invention and production. As a result, horse-and-buggies were replaced by automobiles, wagon tracks by steel rails, and candles by electricity. At last, after millennia of struggle, man became the master of his environment.
The result of these core achievements was an increase in freedom, wealth, health, comfort, and life expectancy unprecedented in the history of the world. These Western achievements were greatest in the country where the principles of reason and rights were implemented most consistently -- the United States of America. In contrast, it was precisely in those (third-world) countries which did not embrace reason, rights, and technology where people suffered (and still suffer) most from both natural and man-made disasters (famine, poverty, illness, dictatorship) and where life-expectancy was (and is) lowest. It is said that primitives live "in harmony with nature," but in reality they are simply victims of the vicissitudes of nature -- if some dictator does not kill them first.
The greatness of America is not an "ethnocentric" prejudice; it is an objective fact. This assessment is based on the only proper standard for judging a culture or a society: the degree to which its core values are pro- or anti-life. Pro-life cultures acknowledge and respect man's nature as a rational being who must discover and create the conditions which his survival and happiness require -- which means that they advocate reason, rights (freedom), and technological progress.
Despite its undeniable triumphs, America is by no means secure. Its core principles are under attack from every direction -- by religious zealots who want to undermine the separation of church and state, and by its own intellectuals, who are denouncing reason in the name of skepticism, rights in the name of special entitlements, and progress in the name of environmentalism. We are heading rapidly toward the destruction of our core values and the dead end of nihilism. The core values and achievements of the West and of America must be asserted proudly and defended to the death. Our lives depend on them.
RANT:
Now, before you flame, you don't have to sit there and think America is great. I honestly don't care if you totally LOATHE America. Just don't sit there and freaking bash us. I don't see any Americans posting on why GERMANY sucks a**, or why CANADA is crap, or why the UK is total s**t. I just see AMERICA! Whoa.
There's no doubt about it. We have a lot of idiotic people in our country...but I know a hell of a lotta people in other countries who are just as stupid! *gasp* stare Wow...we're all humans. Whaddya know? Some are more intelligent than others.
And we ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY! I understand this. We are a REPUBLIC. Although, we are based on a lot of democratic ideas. Yes, we have retards for leaders sometimes. But we don't always have crap leaders...
I'm sorry you don't appreciate patriotism in your country and I'm sorry that you minds cannot stand the pressure of Americans loving their country....oh, and I'm also sorry that Americans love themselves...sorry we're so "pig headed" to defend our country and rights. Oh yeah, I'm also sorry that Americans aren't perfect and commit just as many sins as anoyone else i ntheir country. Also, I'm sorry we believe in God and that we're our country was founded by Christains...sorry we take the bible literally. stare Truly, I am. ((sarcasm))
....Ok, I'm done. I had to get that all out.
Flame away!!!
Guilty as charged. I think America is the greatest country on this planet...sorry if that totally pisses you off but my opinion isn't going to change just because some kid from Canada who was taught to hate Americans called me a stuck up a** for claiming my country is the greatest.
Throwing out the facts:
Source Citation: http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1700
America -- as the greatest product of Western civilization -- is the greatest country in the world. But it cannot remain great unless we understand the causes of its greatness.
There are three fundamental respects in which Western culture is objectively the best. The core values and achievements of Western civilization -- the values that made America great -- are:
1. Reason. The Greeks were the first to identify philosophically that knowledge is gained through reason and logic as opposed to mysticism (faith, tradition, revelation, dogma). It would take two millennia, including a Dark Ages and a Renaissance, before the full implications of Greek thought would be realized. The rule of reason reached its zenith in the West in the 18th century -- the Age of Enlightenment. "For the first time in modern history," writes one philosopher, "an authentic respect for reason became the mark of an entire culture." America is the epitome of Enlightenment thought.
2. Individual Rights. An indispensable achievement leading to the Enlightenment was the recognition of the concept of individual rights. John Locke demonstrated that individuals do not exist to serve governments, but rather that governments exist to protect individuals. The individual, said Locke, has an inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of his own happiness. This was the founding philosophy of America. (America made a disastrous error by tolerating slavery, which originated elsewhere, but it was too incongruent with America's core principles of reason and rights to endure and was corrected in the name of those principles.)
3. Science and Technology. The triumph of reason and rights made possible the full development and application of science and technology and ultimately modern industrial society. Once man's mind was freed from the tyranny of religious dogma, and man's productive capacity was freed from the tyranny of state control, scientific and technological progress followed in several interdependent steps. Men began to understand the laws of nature. They invented machinery. They engaged in large-scale production, that is, the creation of wealth. This wealth, in turn, financed and motivated further invention and production. As a result, horse-and-buggies were replaced by automobiles, wagon tracks by steel rails, and candles by electricity. At last, after millennia of struggle, man became the master of his environment.
The result of these core achievements was an increase in freedom, wealth, health, comfort, and life expectancy unprecedented in the history of the world. These Western achievements were greatest in the country where the principles of reason and rights were implemented most consistently -- the United States of America. In contrast, it was precisely in those (third-world) countries which did not embrace reason, rights, and technology where people suffered (and still suffer) most from both natural and man-made disasters (famine, poverty, illness, dictatorship) and where life-expectancy was (and is) lowest. It is said that primitives live "in harmony with nature," but in reality they are simply victims of the vicissitudes of nature -- if some dictator does not kill them first.
The greatness of America is not an "ethnocentric" prejudice; it is an objective fact. This assessment is based on the only proper standard for judging a culture or a society: the degree to which its core values are pro- or anti-life. Pro-life cultures acknowledge and respect man's nature as a rational being who must discover and create the conditions which his survival and happiness require -- which means that they advocate reason, rights (freedom), and technological progress.
Despite its undeniable triumphs, America is by no means secure. Its core principles are under attack from every direction -- by religious zealots who want to undermine the separation of church and state, and by its own intellectuals, who are denouncing reason in the name of skepticism, rights in the name of special entitlements, and progress in the name of environmentalism. We are heading rapidly toward the destruction of our core values and the dead end of nihilism. The core values and achievements of the West and of America must be asserted proudly and defended to the death. Our lives depend on them.
RANT:
Now, before you flame, you don't have to sit there and think America is great. I honestly don't care if you totally LOATHE America. Just don't sit there and freaking bash us. I don't see any Americans posting on why GERMANY sucks a**, or why CANADA is crap, or why the UK is total s**t. I just see AMERICA! Whoa.
There's no doubt about it. We have a lot of idiotic people in our country...but I know a hell of a lotta people in other countries who are just as stupid! *gasp* stare Wow...we're all humans. Whaddya know? Some are more intelligent than others.
And we ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY! I understand this. We are a REPUBLIC. Although, we are based on a lot of democratic ideas. Yes, we have retards for leaders sometimes. But we don't always have crap leaders...
I'm sorry you don't appreciate patriotism in your country and I'm sorry that you minds cannot stand the pressure of Americans loving their country....oh, and I'm also sorry that Americans love themselves...sorry we're so "pig headed" to defend our country and rights. Oh yeah, I'm also sorry that Americans aren't perfect and commit just as many sins as anoyone else i ntheir country. Also, I'm sorry we believe in God and that we're our country was founded by Christains...sorry we take the bible literally. stare Truly, I am. ((sarcasm))
....Ok, I'm done. I had to get that all out.
Flame away!!!
