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Introduction

Please read the first page of this thread before replying to it!

It contains a great deal of information and it may take some time to go through, but I assure you, if you are at all interested in this topic, confused by it, seeking information to help yourself or another, it will be useful, so please take advantage of it!

Thread Purpose

This thread is designed to inform and to be a place for discussion of a serious issue. There are often a lot of "cutting" threads in this board now that do not manage this. Basically, they start out with "I cut today/want to cut today". Then they are followed by a half dozen people telling them to STFU and die, a half dozen saying "I don't get why you do that" and then a random assortment who try and offer some sort of advice that most likely they are woefully unqualified to give.

I find it very upsetting that there are so many people so quick to flame people who post about self injurious behavior. Many self-proclaimed self-injurers who show up may be angsty teens who have somehow become convinced that this is a 'cool' thing do, who engage in such behaviors as an attention-seeking mechanism, (something that needs to be addressed, as it too is unhealthy and of great concern) and who will grow out of it, although regret the scars.

However, among the posters there will be those who self injure and who are ashamed to come forward to family and friends, to seek help before the behavior becomes worse, and so would seek the anonymity of a message board. Flaming them, calling them pathetic and weak, and mocking them for being "angsty, attention seeking whores" and the like only does more damage, and it is a short sighted, ignorant thing to do.

Even if it may be hard, it is best to operate under the assumption that someone who comes to this board seeking assistance, seeking knowledge, is doing so genuinely, and may be someone who requires help. So please offer everyone respect and understanding accordingly.


Remember, above all, this is a discussion thread. Please share your thoughts and give feedback, respond to other posters. Offer additional information, or if you disagree with any of the info here, post and tell us why! This thread is a place for everyone to discuss and explore this issue in depth, so please use it as such. ^_^


The following posts will contain information about the actual practice of self injury and the different types that exist, reasons why people might self injure, and ways in which to get help or help someone who might self injure.

Thread last updated/overhauled on 2/9/07
Background Info & Answers to Common Questions:


This thread will not contain any graphic descriptions of self injury or any images pertaining to it. These are not necessary to discuss the issue, and they may be harmful to those reading it. We would ask that, when replying to this thread, you follow this guideline as well.

However, the subject matter is still very serious and may be upsetting. Please stop reading anytime you feel you are becoming very upset or are considering any kind of self injury, and instead either engage in a distracting chore (walking, watching TV, calling a friend) or post about it and share your feelings with others in the thread.

Terminology:

At the time this thread was written, there was a thread in the forum discussing burning as an "alternative" to cutting. Cutting is a generic term for a variety of self injurious behaviors done repetitively. However, as cutting can be a misleading term, in this thread we primarily use 'self injury' as it is a more accurate and descriptive term.

What Kinds of Self Injury Are There?

dizzyjess
Favazza (1986) separated self-injury into two major groups:

Culturally sanctioned self injury: this is subdivided into rituals and practices. However, this is not the variety of self-mutilation I wish to concentrate on.

Deviant self injury: this can be subdivided again into major self injury, stereotypic self injury and superficial or moderate self injury.

He then divided this into three further subcategories.

Major self injury: this involves acts such as self-castration and amputation. This is mostly commonly associated with psychotic states. Such acts tend to occur suddenly and are associated with major tissue damage and profuse bleeding, as well as commonly being in response to audible and visual hallucinations.

Stereotypic self injury: this tends to be rhythmic self injury, typically headbanging which is associated with the autistic, mentally handicapped and psychotic. This type of self injury is always influenced by physical or chemical problems within the body.

Superficial self injury: this is the most common form of self injury and tends to involve cutting, burning, skin picking, hair pulling (trichotillomania), bone breaking, hitting and wound interference. This type of self-injury is usually a response to overwhelming emotions or situations.

Favazza (1996) then subdivided superficial self-injury into three subcategories:

Compulsive: this is repetitive, ritualistic and involves several episodes within a day. This is most commonly characterised by trichotillomania, skin picking or excoriation when it is done to remove perceived faults or blemishes in the skin. It may be a symptom of a condition such as OCD and generally has a different nature and roots from the other two forms described below.

Episodic: this occurs every so often and generally without the participant identifying themselves as a cutter, burner or similar. This may be a symptom or associated feature of conditions such as anxiety, dissociative disorders, personality disorders or depression. This can develop into repetitive self-injury when a person becomes overly preoccupied with such activities and begins to identify themselves as a cutter, burner or similar.

Repetitive: somebody who participates in repetitive acts of self injury may describe themselves as addicted. It is not the number of injuries that occur that influence whether somebody is an episodic or repetitive self-injurer but rather whether or not they identify with such behaviour. It is also characterised by the self-injurer thinking about such acts, even when not participating in them.

It often becomes a response to stress (both positive and negative), anxiety, depression, numbness, in fact just about any emotion you can think of. Just as a smoker may reach for a cigarette when stressed, a repetitive self-injurer will reach for a blade or lighter. Repetitive self-injury is considered an Axis I impulse control disorder, not otherwise diagnosed by the DSM.

Both episodic and repetitive self-injury can be considered to be impulsive self-injury.


Repetitive Self Injury

The most commonly discussed form of Self Injury on this message board is the third, superficial self injury. The most common subtype of this kind is called "repetitive self injury".

So what is repetitive self injury and how is it different from other forms of "typical" self injury?

Repetitive Self Injury is not masochism. Masochism is inflicting pain for sexual gratification. So there are people who engage in play piercing, blood play, and cutting as part of sexual play. These people are not self injurers. Neither are people who say things such as "Oh, well I tried to cut but I didn't want to hurt myself and I couldn't stand the pain or the blood, so I stopped".

Repetitive self injury is a pattern of behavior, occuring multiple times over an extended period of time, typically in response to a 'triggering' event; a fight with a friend, a bad grade, or even an internal, upsetting thought without any external component.

Self injury is a behavioral symptom of mental illness or distress. Self injurers, in response to unbearable emotional and mental distress have turned their anger, their pain, and their troubles upon themselves. It is a coping mechanism, albiet a terribly unhealthy one, as self injury is disfiguring and can lead to permanent injury and death when the injury rages out of control.

Self injury can be psychologically addictive, and some believe it can be physically addicted as well. Cigarettes are addictive because of what they contain, however people also become addicted to the feeling of smoking, to the act itself. It may be the same with self injury. Pain releases endorphins that give a pleasurable feeling, or at the very least reduce the pain we feel, both mental and physical. Thus there is some thought that self injury can cause a physical addiction to the chemicals released by the process.

And at the same time, self injury is often a highly ritualized behavior. People will, before injurying, systematically lay out materials they will use to cut, in a precise, ordered fashion, guaze, razors, bandages. It becomes compulsive, the act itself is what is essential, not the after effects, the cuts that remain after it is complete, but the actual act of cutting and bleeding and release. That is why self injurers will hide away their cuts and wounds under clothing or by selecting areas that are not commonly visible.

However, in extreme cases, when people who self injure cannot get access to these things they will do whatever they can to injure, including punch walls, kick things, slam their heads into things.

These are extremes, but they reinforce that self injury is not something that should be ignored or viewed as a "phase' that will be grown out of. Some people do grow out of it as they mature and learn other ways to deal, or some never had the tendency towards addiction and stopped doing it when they found it was not satisfactory. But others become trapped in a cycle, causing increasingly more harm. And most importantly, self injury is a behavioral symptom of underlying issues which may need to be addressed.

What factors contribute to self-injury, and who self-injures?

There is no one theory of what causes people to engage in repetative self-injury. It is unlikely that, even with much research, one theory would be agreed upon, as there are many different factors that appear to contribute to the behavior, and these factors are not present in all individuals who self-injure. A great deal more study needs to be done to understand self injury.

Both men and women self injure. While the behavior appears most prominent in adolescents and young adults, people of all ages may self injure. It is important to not dismiss someone because they do not fit a sterotype of what you may think someone who self injures is like.

The most common type appear to be young women who were abused or abandoned when they were children or preadolescents, causing self esteem and trust issues. They may fear offending and hurting those around them because they are terrified they may lose someone again or be abused again, and so they take out any anger or difficulties they may have with others on themselves.

I say "appear" because it is difficult to throughly study self injurers. Many hide what they do. Many never come to the attention of health professionals or even friends and family. Those that do come forward may not accurately represent the whole population of people who are self injuring.

Secondly, it is very difficult to properly asses the impact of abuse or abandonment on an individual. Many people who experience such traumas grow to be healthy individuals free of mental disease or disorder, and many people who self injure did not have traumatic experiences in their childhood. An individuals total experiences, not just their negative ones, as well as their genetic and environmental factors, all will play a role.

How and Why?

Self injury is typically not something that people simply up and choose to pick up one day. People don't logically sit back and think "I had a shitty day, I'm going to go hurt myself now" when they start self injuring, although later, as it becomes 'normal', they may have such a thought process.

Typically, self-injury will start in an accidental way or stem from an moment of extreme emotional distress, where normal, rational thinking patterns are disturbed. Someone may be upset and angry and frustrated and punch something, cutting themself in the process. They see that this immediate, physical sensation momentarily distracted them from the mental, it numbed it. The relief experienced may be so great that they then seek out the experience again. Overtime, this harmful coping mechanism replaces or prevents learning of heathier ones, such as confronting someone who is upsetting you, going for a run, talking to a therapist, watching a movie, the normal, everday things people do to cope with difficulties in life.

For a self injurer, however, these normal behaviors are replaced by self injury, and it becomes habitual unless other mechanisms are learned, either through simple aging and maturity or through therapy or some other form of treatment.


Suicide Prevention

Self Injury is often confused with suicide attempts. However, self injury is a distinct behavior that, while related to sucidal thoughts or urges, can often be the exact opposite of a suicide attempt.

This may seem contradictory, but it actually makes a great deal of sense. When a person is suicidal, they will often try anything they can to elevate themselves from that state. They do not want to die on one level, but yet on another they are crushed and feel the overwhelming need to die. So they die little deaths. They cut and they see the blood and feel the pain and the endorphin rush and they are, for a time, lifted out of that haze of depression and death. It is not a permanant solution to depression and to being suicidal. People who were never in this state look at it and say "Well, it's just temporary, that doesn't make any sense." But when you are that far down that every single minute is a struggle to survive you will take whatever you can get that makes you live on from second to second and from minute to minute and from day to day, until hopefully you get help so that you no longer need rely on it to stay sane and alive.

When someone self injures unnoticed for a long time, the pattern of behavior can become increasingly more difficult to break. It becomes not only an addiction but a part of one's life, one begins to identify themself as "a self injurer" or 'cutter'. It becomes a part of one's identity, and by then it has become such a habit and a part of life that giving it up is unimaginable. What would you do then? It is everything. It brings you up when you are down, it calms you when you are out of control, it brings you back to earth when you dissociate, it lets you punish yourself when you hate yourself and feel worthless or when you fear you have hurt someone you love.

This is why some people injure for years, long past their teen years. They are trapped in a cycle and they have become complacent with it, it is now a part of their identity and they see nothing wrong with it. These are the people that are the most difficult to help, for they have moved beyond the point where the SI was initial and so could be rapidly headed off and replaced with therapy to deal with the underlying issues and with healthier coping mechanisms.

People who self injure in this manner often hide it well due to confusion and shame, and so unless those around them are perceptive or notice other problems in their life, their self injury may go unnoticed and untreated.

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Our follow up posts will contain resources to go if you self injure and resources for learning more about self injury.
Self Injury is not Attention Seeking

The vast majority of people don't self injure for attention. They do it for a range of other reasons which Noraboo has already discussed in greater depth, such as because of overwhelming feelings, a sense of detatchment from reality or to prove to themselves that there is a problem but not because they want people to feel sorry for them or talk about them. You do have to question the mental health of somebody who would go to such extreme measures to get attention anyway when there are far easier and less painful ways of doing so.

How Do I Know if I Self-Injure?

Whether or not something is SI is dependant on motives.

SI is used to bring about a change in mental state, to ease depression, address anxiety, vent anger, end or enter a dissociative state etc.

It is done by yourself and to yourself.

It is a physical act such as cutting, burning, hitting, scratching, interfering with wound healing or pulling out hair.

You are not intending to kill yourself through this act

It is intentional.

Self injury is not about cutting yourself twice to see if you can handle the pain or in an attempt to understand why other people cut themselves.
Websites With Information on SI and Resources for Self Injurers and Their Friends and Family

Websites for additonal information and resources so those who SI can seek help. Please remember that some of the information could potentially be triggering. Also please note that these are not official endorsements from Gaia, but merely my personal list of resources available on the net.

Secret Shame -Additional information about self injury

Samaritans -UK based group with both online, phone, and in person crisis services

Metanoia -An excellent website with online and phone counseling that serves those suffering from mental illness, depression, and suicidal thoughts

Psyke.org-self injury information and support.

Scars to Match the Inside

Cool Nurse- Self Injury

Our Second Chance
Their information section presents material in a very clear and concise manner, definitely worth checking out.


Books on Self Injury

This is a selection of books that can be easily found through places such as Amazon or Barnes and Noble. They're designed for people who are not professionals to read, so they are more accessible than the litany of dry, difficult psychological journals that deal with these topics.

Books:

Bodies Under Siege: Self Mutilation and Body Modification in Culture and Psychiatry, by
Armando R. Favazza


A classic book that examines all varieties of self injury, not just repetitive self injury, and also analyzes the body modification subcuture. Very informative and interesting, and not difficult to read.

A Bright Red Scream: Self-Mutilation and the Language of Pain by Marilee Strong

A good book for understanding the psychology behind the actions and for explaining what treatment programs are available for self injuriers.

Cutting: Understanding and Overcoming Self-Mutilation by Steven Levenkron

Levenkron is a psychologist who has spent many years treating self injuriers and anorexics. He's very good at explaining the thought processes and emotions that accompany self injury.

Skin Game : A Memoir by Caroline Kettlewell

A first hand account of a woman who self inujures. Not comfortable to read, but it lets you literally walk in the mind of a person who SI's rather than relying on outside analysis such as that from psychologists and psychiatrists.
dizzyjess

Disclaimer: We are not experts and you are advised to seek professional assistance when you or someone you know self injures.

When Somebody you Know Self Injures

This must be a pretty difficult thing to deal with. However, there are things you can do to make it easier.

Research: find out as much as you can about self-injury. Have a look on the internet, read some books on the subject. Get as well informed as you can. This will help you not only to say the wrong thing to a vulnerable person but will help you to understand a subject a little better that is practically impossible to comprehend by an outsider without help. This will help you to see things from their perspective and will probably make you far better equipped for dealing with such a problem.

Be Supportive, not Pushy: be prepared to set aside your personal feelings on SI and focus on the person in question.

Don't be surprised if the person in question does not bring up the topic of their own accord and be prepared to do so yourself if you feel that this may be appropriate. This isn't a topic to broach with a vague acquaintance, although you may be more likely to get away with it if you are or have been a self harmer. People are often deeply ashamed, unsure of whether people care and unsure of whether people will even want to hear but they may really appreciate a little concern and a listening ear. Of course this may not be the case for everyone. If the person in question clearly does not want to talk then drop the subject and be aware that it may be a triggering area of conversation. Nonetheless it can be a worthwhile exercise. The Samaritans advocate an approach known as active listening which can work very well.

If need be, set limits. It is reasonable to say that there are things that you don't want to see or discuss on a daily basis for example. Don't be too surprised if the person in question tests these limits from time to time and try not to make too much of it.

Sometimes the most valuable thing you can do is merely provide a distraction. Never underestimate the amount of good just making someone laugh can do. Telling somebody to, "cheer up," is generally not the best of ideas but just being there, talking about something you both enjoy and providing a shoulder to cry on if need be can do a world of good.

If you're able to, it can also help a great deal to make yourself available as somebody to contact in a crisis. Its ok if you don't feel up to it but a good support base is an essential tool in helping to stop SI. You may find that all you need to do is just talk about something mundane to keep the person occupied and take their mind off things.

Ultimatums do not Work: Ever. You cannot force somebody to stop self injuring and even if you think you can and have, it will only work for a while and will inevitably rear its head again later down the line or be replaced by an equally unhealthy coping mechanism. Such an approach also encourages secrecy. Stopping SI is often about learning to open up and share your emotions rather than taking them out on yourself so undermining understanding and trust may well be counterproductive.

The same applies to confiscating sharps. It is important to understand that the person in question may not know what else to do if their method of coping is denied to them. It may also lead to them looking for more creative ways to harm themselves.

Look after Yourself: don't take it personally and remember, you are not superhuman. Nobody expects you to be the iron man who can take on board somebody elses emotional pain on top of your own without needing some time to talk yourself. Even counsellors have to have counsellors so find somebody confidential that you can talk to as well if need be. Its not a sign of weakness, you're not meant to keep a stiff upper lip, big boys do cry and you can get pregnant first time round.

Be honest with your own feelings about SI. If you find it creepy and disgusting then thats ok. If need be then discuss that with somebody too.

Don't feel you need to be around 24/7 either. Its important to take time out to take care of yourself and just relax.

secret shame
The balance here is tricky, because if you make yourself more and more distant, you might get a reaction of increasing levels of crisis from the other person. If you let them know that they don't have to be about to die to get love and attention from you, you can take breaks without freaking the person out. The key is developing trust, a process that will take some time. Once you prove that you are someone who isn't going to go away at the first sign of trouble, you will be able to go away in non-crisis times without provoking a crisis response.


Helpful responses to self-injury

The Bristol Crisis Service for Women
Short Term

Show that you see and care about the person in pain behind the self-injury.

Show concern for the injuries themselves. Whatever 'front' she may put on, a person who has injured herself is usually deeply distressed, ashamed and vulnerable. You have an opportunity to offer compassion and respect - something different from what she may be used to receiving.

Make it clear that self-injury is alright to talk about and can be understood. If you feel upset by the injuries it may be best to be honest about this, while being clear that you can deal with your own feelings and don't blame her for them.

Convey your respect for the person's efforts to survive, even though this involves hurting herself. She has done the best she could.

Acknowledge how frightening it may be to think of living without self-injury. Reassure the person that you will not try to 'steal' her way of coping. (Also reassure yourself you are not responsible for what she does to herself.)

Longer-term

Help the person make sense of her self-injury, e.g. ask when the self-injury started, and what was happening then. Explore how it has helped the person to survive in the past and now. Retrace with her the steps leading up to self-injury - the events, thoughts and feelings which lead to it.

Gently encourage the person to use the urge to self-injure as a signal - of important but buried experiences, feelings and needs. When she feels ready, help her learn to express these things in other ways, such as through talking, writing, drawing, shouting, hitting something, etc.

Support the person in beginning to take steps to keep herself safe and to reduce her self-injury - if she wishes to. Examples of very valuable steps might be: taking fewer risks (e.g. washing implements used to cut, avoiding drinking if she thinks she is likely to self-injure); taking better care of injuries; reducing severity or frequency of injuries even a little. In all cases more choice and control are being exercised.

Don't see stopping self-injury as the only, or most important goal. A person may make great progress in many ways and still need self-injury as a coping method for some time. Self-injury may also worsen for a while when difficult issues or feelings are being explored, or when old patterns are being changed. It may take a long time for a person to be ready to give up self-injury. Encourage her and yourself by acknowledging each small step as a major achievement.
Stopping Self-Injuring

Edit: Read this article before taking any of my well meaning but potentially flawed advice.
http://www.recoveryourlife.com/Self_Harm_Recovery/599.aspx

The decision to make an effort to stop self-injuring is not one that should be taken lightly. It is a big committment which will most likely take a lot of effort and endurance. It must be a decision made for yourself and not for anybody else. Alderman (1997) drew up this useful list of statements which would be beneficial if true if and when you decide to stop.

-I have a solid emotional support system of friends, family, and/or professionals that I can use if I feel like hurting myself.
-There are at least two people in my life that I can call if I want to hurt myself.
-I feel at least somewhat comfortable talking about SIV with three different people.
-I have a list of at least ten things I can do instead of hurting myself.
-I have a place to go if I need to leave my house so as not to hurt myself.
-I feel confident that I could get rid of all the things that I might be likely to use to hurt myself.
-I have told at least two other people that I am going to stop hurting myself.
-I am willing to feel uncomfortable, scared, and frustrated.
-I feel confident that I can endure thinking about hurting myself without having to actually do so.
-I want to stop hurting myself.

Personally though, I feel that the last statement is the most important. Without drive, it will be very hard to succeed. Stopping self-injuring is a bit like climbing a mountain. Counsellors, doctors, psychiatrists, friends . . . they can throw all the walking boots, food, maps and various other tools you may need to make the journey easier at you that its possible to but only you can start climbing.

I would also say that it is particularly important that you have people you can contact or places you can go when you feel like self-injuring. Obviously there will be times when going for a walk or calling up a friend isn't practical but learning to cope alone is also part of learning to cope.

Alternatives: Self-injury may have been your only coping mechanism for a long time and the chances are you've been in the thick of some pretty overwhelming emotions during that time so its important that you find new ways to deal. You will have to be committed to trying and sticking to the use of new coping mechanisms. Using them once will not cure you for ever, neither are some of the methods described below designed to be indefinate replacements for self-injury, they are merely tricks to get you through a crisis, things to help you stop. Think of these as a means to an end, rather than the end in itself.

-Carry things around with you in your pockets that can keep your hands and mind busy, for example, a small puzzle, a pen and paper, a photograph of a loved one.
-Be outwardly destructive in a socially acceptable way by breaking sticks, tearing up a newspaper, throwing ice cubes against something till they shatter, hitting a cushion etc. Even better, rant, rave, scream and cry in the process.
-Call somebody. You don't even necessarily have to speak to them about what's wrong. Just having somebody to distract you can do a lot of good.
-Keep a rubber band around your wrist and snap it when you're tempted to injure yourself (NB. this leaves ugly marks and I haven't found it to be very effective myself)
-Do something to engage your brain, such as writing a detailed description of a random object, saying the alphabet backwards. Try to describe yourself, your surroundings, your family etc.
-Do something slow and soothing such as having a hot bath or curling up somewhere warm with a good book.
-Pray or meditate.
-Do something that creates a physical sensation, such as squeezing ice-cubes (you could also try putting red food colouring in them), eating chiles or taking a cold shower.
-Dye your hair red or use red food colouring if you want to see blood.
-do something creative such as painting, drawing or writing.
-find an object thats either tangible or visual and get it out whenever you want to SI. For example, tie a specific handkerchief round your wrist whenever you want to cut yourself and take it off when the urge has passed. The idea is that the brain will eventually substitute one method for another if repeated often enough.
-Tidy or watch a film.
-Go for a walk.
-Go somewhere secluded/vaguely soundproof and scream.
-Draw lines on your arm in red pen.
-Do anything that isn't SI.

Try and identify which emotion is causing your urge to SI and match up an appropriate coping mechanism. For instance, if you're feeling depersonalised and craving sensation, try doing something so cause physical sensation. If you're feeling depressed, be kind to yourself. If you want focus, tidy. If you're irritated, try bubble wrap.

There are some excellent tips by somebody known as Kharre here.

Acknowledge that you feel the need to self harm for a reason. Think about why this might be and talk about it with somebody, vent your feelings. If you don't feel you can talk to somebody then write it down or something similar but try to find an outlet for these feelings. Self harm tends to have something to do with communication problems.

If nothing is working, try the fifteen minute game. Tell yourself you'll SI in fifteen minutes. When fifteen minutes is up, tell yourself you don't want to SI now and you'll do it in fifteen minutes. This can be a great little trick for getting through a crisis.

Sometimes, however, you will slip up. It happens to everyone so don't beat yourself up over it (excuse the pun). However, try to minimise the damage you do and avoid cutting when you're drunk or otherwise intoxicated. Take care of your injuries properly and afterwards have a think about what led you to this point and how you can sort things out before they get to this point in future.

There is a good first aid guide here
http://www.psyke.org/faqs/first_aid/

Prevention

Is a better apporach to take than curing the situation as it comes up. Know your triggers and avoid them when you're feeling delicate. Have other outlets such as friends you can talk to or helplines you can call. If you can then get a good therapist. Self harm is not a standalone condition, it is often symptomatic of a greater problem. Adressing this and understanding what leads you to this point is the best way to stop self harming.

Be kind to yourself, reward yourself when you do well and try to keep things in perspective when you don't do so well. It isn't the end of the world if you burn the dinner or forget to do a piece of homework but these are your feelings and you need to acknowledge them. Accept that you are reacting in a certain way but try to bring yourself back to some kind of balance. Talk back to your thoughts.

Example: I forgot to call my friend back, he/she must hate me now
Response: I'm going to forget things, I'm only human. He/she probably won't mind and I can always call them back now or later on, I can solve this problem.

Think about how you would be talking to yourself about a situation if you were talking to a good friend of yours.


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Your desire to SI is unlikely to be something that disappears overnight, it may take months, if not years of hard work but it is worth it and you will slip up from time to time. Its important to remember that there's nothing wrong with that. Nobody would expect you to change from writing with your right hand to your left (or vice-versa) without your handwriting being a little shakey for a while.



Maybe you don't feel ready yet.

There's nothing wrong with that. Self injury is not a problem in its own right but more symptomatic of a bigger problem. Therefore it is often necessary to treat the bigger problem before the other problems such as SI can be resolved. If not then you may well find either the desires coming back or such behaviour coming out in other ways such as drinking heavily. On the other hand resolving one of your problmes (such as SI) can make it easier and less daunting to deal with other potentially bigger problems.

There are still things you can do in preparation that will help you deal more healthily and ease future transition. Start incorporating other coping mechanisms such as writing about your feelings and then tearing up the paper or going for a brisk autumn walk and kicking up all the leaves if you're angry (chances are you're reading this at the wrong time of year but you get the picture, at the very least it gives you something to do).
About the only thing that would make this thread better is the occasional person bopping in about "down the street, not across", and a few pages of flame material.
Damn. Double. Post. *brick*
*just applauds* Fantastic!
Noraboo
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Hmm. Organic self-injury? Could that be like obsessively biting/picking at any little piece of dry or raised skin until said skin is removed or body part with said skin attatched is gushing blood? I do that, and it's like a really bizarre thing I HAVE to do. If I don't, I go completely nutty. I just... have to. whee My fingers get so gross and raw sometimes from pulling at my cuticles... Yuck. I think I'm a bit OCD.
Absolutely amazing. You describe -exactly- what its like for those people who don't just cut because it's the cool thing to do. I hope everyone reads the entire post, and that maybe a few people will come to their senses- if even a little. Thank you. smile
mommogirl
Wow. This is a good idea for a thread! It should be sticked! But 4 stickys for a subforum is in my opinion too many. If you could combine this with your sticky, I think that would be great.

T.i.a.


It's linked (or will be shortly) in the Life Issues FAQ. Personally, I don't think that it should be stickied, as it doesn't relate to Gaia and the community, however informative/helpful it may or may not be.

In otherwords, carefully concealed/constructive bumps are appreciated. ninja


ciniron
Hmm. Organic self-injury? Could that be like obsessively biting/picking at any little piece of dry or raised skin until said skin is removed or body part with said skin attatched is gushing blood? I do that, and it's like a really bizarre thing I HAVE to do. If I don't, I go completely nutty. I just... have to. whee My fingers get so gross and raw sometimes from pulling at my cuticles... Yuck. I think I'm a bit OCD.


There's something actually called 'picking' where people compulsively pick at their skin, either at real or imagined blemishes, imperfections, dry skin, etc, until they actually create injuries that are far wose than anything that may have actually been there (or not been there) in the first place.

Many people who self injure were already prone to this sort of behavior. However, like you said, it's more commonly associated with OCD. Related behaviors are things like trichotillomania, where people compulsively pull out their hair.

You could try wearing gloves or painting your fingers with something that tastes really disgusting. If it really gets bad though, you might see a doctor about it, see if they have anything to say. It's not life threatening, but it's just sort of icky, and it could be a sign of a larger issue, although it doesn't sound like it. But when in doubt, go see someone. Better than listening to some stranger on a message board.
Noraboo
There's something actually called 'picking' where people compulsively pick at their skin, either at real or imagined blemishes, imperfections, dry skin, etc, until they actually create injuries that are far wose than anything that may have actually been there (or not been there) in the first place.

Many people who self injure were already prone to this sort of behavior. However, like you said, it's more commonly associated with OCD. Related behaviors are things like trichotillomania, where people compulsively pull out their hair.

You could try wearing gloves or painting your fingers with something that tastes really disgusting. If it really gets bad though, you might see a doctor about it, see if they have anything to say. It's not life threatening, but it's just sort of icky, and it could be a sign of a larger issue, although it doesn't sound like it. But when in doubt, go see someone. Better than listening to some stranger on a message board.


Heh. Yeah, I yank out my eyebrows, eyelashes, and occasionally pubic hair, too. whee I used to cut, but my boyfriend would get really upset with me and made me promise not to anymore. Whenever I slip, he gets mad and threatens to break up with me since I broke a promise I made to him. It's not the best way to go about it, but it's gotten me to stop for the most part.

The only thing that doctors have said to do about my picking is to "stop" or, like you said, wear gloves or put something icky on my nails. Well, the gloves thing just made my hands sweat and annoyed me and with the icky stuff, I just picked with my nails or would wake up all bloody, aparantly having done it in my sleep. The only time I ever got any real help was when my therapist wanted to do furthur evaluations because he thought I had a real problem instead of just being odd and picking stuff. I need to go back, but money's tight but my parents make too much to qualify for the free clinics. ::shrugs:: For the time being, I'll just keep clipping my nails too short to be able to pick with.
ryfso
Noraboo
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*slaps Ryfso* You have WAY too much free time, we will have to fix that.

Noraboo, well done. I was wondering when you were going to do this. wink

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