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Post: 9801_1 created on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:02:47 +0000
Posted: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:02:47 +0000

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However, as to the question of whether the arms would move when hit by explosives, I thing of CRISAT as more of an exoskeletonal type of armor.

See... here's where it all goes to hell. We were discussing ARMOR... though apparently CRISAT is a MOBILE SUIT.

Not the three hundred foot tall ones, of course, but I'd assume that with an armament like that it would be about eight to ten feet tall in it's own right, and probably about three feet thick at any given point.

Not necessarily. In my mind, the strength enhancers aren't nearly so strong, and I figure it . I think that Chris' MS obsession got the better of him a long time ago, and now he can only measure strength by comparing it with the strengths of mobile suits. xd However, because Chris is the one I got it from, I use the solid information I have about them (what is in KCAB's first post) and fill in the blanks with my imagination; and the strength enhancers are one of the few things clearly defined.

Really, though, the only thing Gel uses CRISAT for is making gunfights simpler and as a sort of mobile firing platform to negate most of the serious inconvieniences with his liking for railguns, not in straight fights, so I wouldn't know much about its real endurance.

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Post: 9801_2 created on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:12:23 +0000
Posted: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:12:23 +0000

Well I would imagine from the sheer expected durability of the 'machine', as well as the fact that it functions more as an exoskeleton than a suit of armor, that mobility that you speak of would be severely called into question.

First off, to achieve that type of durability, no matter what the actual construction of the thing is, it would need to be thick and heavy so that the impact alone doesn't transfer through the armor (and/or dent, push, or tear apart the armor) and snap the fragile bones of the pilot when the thing is hit by anything above the range of 'hand held' weaponry.

Thickness means that the joints won't be able to move quite as far since they need to be armored as well, and since you say it is a suit, rather than a Mobile Suit, the pilot's arms are where the suit's arms are. He wouldn't be able to put his arms all the way down, up, in front of him, and certainly not behind him... The same with the legs.

Now, since this lack of range of motion is a real inhibitor, your claim that a person in this armor is more mobile than normal is called into severe question... I suppose since the suit has a great deal of strength behind it, quick thrusts could make it 'bound' into position, rather than trying to run or something like that. Though I can't imagine it's much for agility, simply landspeed and ability to handle heavy weapons.

So... um... :shrug: I forgot what I was ranting about.

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Post: 9801_3 created on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:18:11 +0000
Posted: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:18:11 +0000

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Though it's somewhat questionable, since I don't recall exactly how a lightsaber works, and a blade that can cut through anything while running on a marble-sized powersource sounds fishy to me, I'd assume a lightsaber would damage CRISAT.

A lightsaber is powered by a Force Crystal, which contains assloads of power. The force crystal is as big as a medium-sized marble, and has around 4x power than most things that size can contain.

And then there's double-bladed lightsabers like Darth Maul's. Those have twin force crystals. Enough power in those to fire a fully-charged shot from an orbital railcannon.

How does it work? The force crystal channels energy to form the lightsaber's super-heated blade. It's more complicated than it seems, though I don't know the details.

If these force crystals have enough power to fire off fully-charged orbital railcannon shots, then why don't people build orbital railcannons with them instead? Actually, hold that thought. It doesn't take that much energy to fire an orbital railcannon. Just open the hatch facing the planet, drop a heatshielded chunk of metal out, and hope it doesn't completely vaporize. blaugh

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Post: 9801_4 created on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:59:05 +0000
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Because the force crystals would have to be changed regularly, and just one of them would cost assloads of cash. gonk

Edit: Or you could just walk up to a Jedi and try to snatch his lightsaber. rolleyes Though that would be extremely stupid.

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Post: 9801_5 created on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:33:19 +0000
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In regards to a lightsaber wielding jedi versus a gun-toting maniac? A quote from a guy on another forum...

"Those who live by the sword... usually get shot"

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Post: 9801_6 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:37:59 +0000
Posted: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:37:59 +0000

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Very stupid plus you have to add in the fact that a Jedi must meditate and embue the force into the crystals that s/he choses, so nobody but a force user can make or effectively use a force crystal powered weapon.((If you follow Star Wars mythos. Yes I am a Star Wars freak and I'm proud of it.XP))

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Post: 9801_7 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:41:28 +0000
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And the Force is just a fancy name for Telekenesis. 3nodding

*high fives* Star Wars freaks unite!

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Post: 9801_8 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:51:53 +0000
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Hell yes.

The force is a bit more then telekinesis. It has quite a few aspects to it actually, telekinesis is just a branch of it. 3nodding

As to a Jedi vs. a gun toting maniac. The lightsaber would block all of the bullets and vaporize them and then the Jedi would slice the guys arm off. 3nodding

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Post: 9801_9 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:53:54 +0000
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LMAO, Um there's no way possible to make a string to attach the two ends. Any material you would try would be vaporized.

I wouldn't quite say that. Obviously there IS a way to block a lightsaber... just not one that's very convenient. More than likely a concentrated forcefield, though it would probably require a generator a bit bigger than a bow. :shrug:

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@Jello: Dude you are a hard a**. whee 3nodding xd

Well said I gain more respect for this guild as time goes by. xd

Why? Because of ye olde Farmer John?

We were bored so we dicided to take a mob of torch-weilding angry townsfolk into a demon bar where these guys were talking like big shots. xd

Unconditional surrender in about 20 minutes... Then we just kind of left, since we weren't really intending to cause damage, just give 'em what for. Then we got REALLY bored and I decided to have one of my buddies kill Farmer John, because he was an annoying racist b*****d and I didn't like him. xp

otacon could go see a high level mage or that one guy that rps a arch angel and have him make a magical string. you dont need a scientical way to block a lightsabers blade.

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Post: 9801_10 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:56:51 +0000
Posted: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:56:51 +0000

Well it all depends on what kind of RP you're doing. If it's not strictly Star Wars then yes. If it is strictly Star Wars then you need to find a different way.

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Post: 9801_11 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:58:07 +0000
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As to a Jedi vs. a gun toting maniac. The lightsaber would block all of the bullets and vaporize them and then the Jedi would slice the guys arm off. 3nodding

Machine gun. A human arm cannot move a lightsaber more than 300 times per second. Even a Force-powered arm.

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Post: 9801_12 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:58:43 +0000
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I dunno how im going to do it yet. Still thinking about it. Tho im probly gonna go with magical, because this is gaia where basicly any magical anime thingie can come into play so starwars just happens to be part of the gaint soup bowl we call rp. Amp seems to have no problem with this weapon. Tho im working the string problem out right now. The arrow part I have covered.

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Post: 9801_13 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:00:01 +0000
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As to a Jedi vs. a gun toting maniac. The lightsaber would block all of the bullets and vaporize them and then the Jedi would slice the guys arm off. 3nodding

Machine gun. A human arm cannot move a lightsaber more than 300 times per second. Even a Force-powered arm.

I never said that could happen. or you talking to someone else?

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Post: 9801_14 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:00:37 +0000
Posted: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:00:37 +0000

I quoted Alucard. sweatdrop

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Post: 9801_15 created on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:01:56 +0000
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As to a Jedi vs. a gun toting maniac. The lightsaber would block all of the bullets and vaporize them and then the Jedi would slice the guys arm off. 3nodding

Machine gun. A human arm cannot move a lightsaber more than 300 times per second. Even a Force-powered arm.

a) Force shield: The Jedi implements a shield of the force in front of him so that the bullets hit it and they deflect away.
b) The Jedi can use the force to speed himself up easily 10x his normal speed/ or slow down the surroundings depending on which way you RP it. In this state everything seems to be moving extremely slow and he can deflect bullets with ease.

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