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 Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:49 am
sanisani-kun Okay, so this is what happened. (I did math in writing class) Starting points-30 I took a point from both hp and stamina, which added 10 So I started with 40. I took the trident for free at some point, which I didn't realize? So 15 points go into both thunder and staff for a total of 25 in thunder and 15 in staff. I used five points to unlock dagger, which was the cost at the time to unlock weapons so I could take the job as a thief, which I can take back. I actually screwed up leveling, so jasper should actually be level 2 I think. So that would be 15 more points, and the 5 leftover from before. I don't know what happened to those. o- o;; I'll make changes when I can get on my computer... Under the new rules, you get a free weapon skill and free 15 points when you first create your character. Under the old rules, you levelled up after 20 experience points, so if you had a level under the old rules, you've probably got two levels by the current rules. You're also allowed to change the class of your character if it was made under the old rules, you know, when speed and stuff applied. Kai was a rogue under the old rules. I changed her to Warrior class once speed no longer applied, since the rogue's high speed was the main reason I picked that class for her at first...
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:24 am
Kai Merah sanisani-kun Okay, so this is what happened. (I did math in writing class) Starting points-30 I took a point from both hp and stamina, which added 10 So I started with 40. I took the trident for free at some point, which I didn't realize? So 15 points go into both thunder and staff for a total of 25 in thunder and 15 in staff. I used five points to unlock dagger, which was the cost at the time to unlock weapons so I could take the job as a thief, which I can take back. I actually screwed up leveling, so jasper should actually be level 2 I think. So that would be 15 more points, and the 5 leftover from before. I don't know what happened to those. o- o;; I'll make changes when I can get on my computer... Under the new rules, you get a free weapon skill and free 15 points when you first create your character. Under the old rules, you levelled up after 20 experience points, so if you had a level under the old rules, you've probably got two levels by the current rules. You're also allowed to change the class of your character if it was made under the old rules, you know, when speed and stuff applied. Kai was a rogue under the old rules. I changed her to Warrior class once speed no longer applied, since the rogue's high speed was the main reason I picked that class for her at first... Yeah, I got all that. But there was a brief time when classes also gave you a free weapon skill, which was fairly close to when I joined, So I spammed weapons onto Jas thinking they were free. I haven't got a problem with the 'Alchemist' class, especially now that it does additional damage . So yeah. It's just a matter of figuring out where I put the leftover 25 points originally and where I want to put them now that I realize they exist.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:58 pm
I begin to realise that I may have overdone it when training Kai to be a credible threat to groups of heroes. It seems very unlikely Kai will ever be defeated in PVP, unless she turns into a lich and is no longer able to use Rapid Heal. Actually, I'm not sure even turning into a lich will weaken her that much, but anyway... Would anyone like to volunteer to die/turn into an angel? I'm also willing to turn them into a demon, if it's allowed to resurrect people you kill as demons, assuming you yourself are a lich. Also, can someone explain to me how 'imprisoning' works, exactly? According to the new rules for PVP combat, that is an option for the victor. Is there a system for how prisoners may attempt to escape after a certain number of posts or something? Oh, and does anyone know how paralysis works, exactly?
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:08 pm
Kai Merah I begin to realise that I may have overdone it when training Kai to be a credible threat to groups of heroes. It seems very unlikely Kai will ever be defeated in PVP, unless she turns into a lich and is no longer able to use Rapid Heal. Actually, I'm not sure even turning into a lich will weaken her that much, but anyway... Would anyone like to volunteer to die/turn into an angel? Also, can someone explain to me how 'imprisoning' works, exactly? According to the new rules for PVP combat, that is an option for the victor. Is there a system for how prisoners may attempt to escape after a certain number of posts or something? I haven't thought that far ahead yet since we don't have very many faction leaders. I'm also thinking of nerfing the scrolls so they can only be used once. For only 50 gold they shouldn't be that powerful. I'm going to have a second look at the chimera's natural ability as well as some of the other numbers involved in combat. This is the first time we've done any real pvp and seen the system in action, though we also have to take into consideration how much higher your level is. Paralysis is just that, you're paralysis. no attacking, so dodging, and most spells probably wouldn't be allowed either.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:17 pm
Moonlight Calamity Kai Merah I begin to realise that I may have overdone it when training Kai to be a credible threat to groups of heroes. It seems very unlikely Kai will ever be defeated in PVP, unless she turns into a lich and is no longer able to use Rapid Heal. Actually, I'm not sure even turning into a lich will weaken her that much, but anyway... Would anyone like to volunteer to die/turn into an angel? Also, can someone explain to me how 'imprisoning' works, exactly? According to the new rules for PVP combat, that is an option for the victor. Is there a system for how prisoners may attempt to escape after a certain number of posts or something? I haven't thought that far ahead yet since we don't have very many faction leaders. I'm also thinking of nerfing the scrolls so they can only be used once. For only 50 gold they shouldn't be that powerful. I'm going to have a second look at the chimera's natural ability as well as some of the other numbers involved in combat. This is the first time we've done any real pvp and seen the system in action, though we also have to take into consideration how much higher your level is. Paralysis is just that, you're paralysis. no attacking, so dodging, and most spells probably wouldn't be allowed either. To be fair, fifty gold is like 50 RP posts. It's not like you get much gold fighting NPCs either. The only reason 50 gold doesn't seem like much now is because most everyone is a faction leader with 200 gold. How about healing spells, or spells that only work on your own body? Would those still work under paralysis? Also, is it possible to turn someone into a demon, if you kill them, and have permission to steal their character's soul in order to turn them into a demon?
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:26 pm
Kai Merah Moonlight Calamity Kai Merah I begin to realise that I may have overdone it when training Kai to be a credible threat to groups of heroes. It seems very unlikely Kai will ever be defeated in PVP, unless she turns into a lich and is no longer able to use Rapid Heal. Actually, I'm not sure even turning into a lich will weaken her that much, but anyway... Would anyone like to volunteer to die/turn into an angel? Also, can someone explain to me how 'imprisoning' works, exactly? According to the new rules for PVP combat, that is an option for the victor. Is there a system for how prisoners may attempt to escape after a certain number of posts or something? I haven't thought that far ahead yet since we don't have very many faction leaders. I'm also thinking of nerfing the scrolls so they can only be used once. For only 50 gold they shouldn't be that powerful. I'm going to have a second look at the chimera's natural ability as well as some of the other numbers involved in combat. This is the first time we've done any real pvp and seen the system in action, though we also have to take into consideration how much higher your level is. Paralysis is just that, you're paralysis. no attacking, so dodging, and most spells probably wouldn't be allowed either. To be fair, fifty gold is like 50 RP posts. It's not like you get much gold fighting NPCs either. The only reason 50 gold doesn't seem like much now is because most everyone is a faction leader with 200 gold. How about healing spells, or spells that only work on your own body? Would those still work under paralysis? Also, is it possible to turn someone into a demon, if you kill them, and have permission to steal their character's soul in order to turn them into a demon? If the scrolls do get nerved it wouldn't be until after this battle, and I won't take it away until you use it after the nerf. You don't have to worry about it right now. Spells that don't require any physical action would be okay to use, but most spells, even healing ones, requires some form of action. It's really a tricky topic though since anyone could just say their spell doesn't take a physical action. cat_sweatdrop To become I demon I would think the character would have to make the deal with a lich before they died. Since becoming a lich requires you to kill someone first, I don't think it would be feasible for anyone in the current conflict to become a demon.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:29 pm
Kai Merah I begin to realise that I may have overdone it when training Kai to be a credible threat to groups of heroes. It seems very unlikely Kai will ever be defeated in PVP, unless she turns into a lich and is no longer able to use Rapid Heal. Actually, I'm not sure even turning into a lich will weaken her that much, but anyway... Would anyone like to volunteer to die/turn into an angel? I'm also willing to turn them into a demon, if it's allowed to resurrect people you kill as demons, assuming you yourself are a lich. I'll let you kill Ace, but since you are being such a pain, I'm gonna make him a pain to kill. He still has 15 points in Luck and Targeting to burn dramallama Would be a waste if he died without actually using them.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:33 pm
Moonlight Calamity Kai Merah Moonlight Calamity Kai Merah I begin to realise that I may have overdone it when training Kai to be a credible threat to groups of heroes. It seems very unlikely Kai will ever be defeated in PVP, unless she turns into a lich and is no longer able to use Rapid Heal. Actually, I'm not sure even turning into a lich will weaken her that much, but anyway... Would anyone like to volunteer to die/turn into an angel? Also, can someone explain to me how 'imprisoning' works, exactly? According to the new rules for PVP combat, that is an option for the victor. Is there a system for how prisoners may attempt to escape after a certain number of posts or something? I haven't thought that far ahead yet since we don't have very many faction leaders. I'm also thinking of nerfing the scrolls so they can only be used once. For only 50 gold they shouldn't be that powerful. I'm going to have a second look at the chimera's natural ability as well as some of the other numbers involved in combat. This is the first time we've done any real pvp and seen the system in action, though we also have to take into consideration how much higher your level is. Paralysis is just that, you're paralysis. no attacking, so dodging, and most spells probably wouldn't be allowed either. To be fair, fifty gold is like 50 RP posts. It's not like you get much gold fighting NPCs either. The only reason 50 gold doesn't seem like much now is because most everyone is a faction leader with 200 gold. How about healing spells, or spells that only work on your own body? Would those still work under paralysis? Also, is it possible to turn someone into a demon, if you kill them, and have permission to steal their character's soul in order to turn them into a demon? If the scrolls do get nerved it wouldn't be until after this battle, and I won't take it away until you use it after the nerf. You don't have to worry about it right now. Spells that don't require any physical action would be okay to use, but most spells, even healing ones, requires some form of action. It's really a tricky topic though since anyone could just say their spell doesn't take a physical action. cat_sweatdrop To become I demon I would think the character would have to make the deal with a lich before they died. Since becoming a lich requires you to kill someone first, I don't think it would be feasible for anyone in the current conflict to become a demon. Pity about that. And thank you. My point about 50 RP posts needed for a single scroll stands though. And I'd like to point out that chimeras need to put a lot of points into the element in question before they can actually take advantage of the 'spells cost 2 less mana' thing. That's another benefit of my additional levels.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:34 pm
Feiyimei Kai Merah I begin to realise that I may have overdone it when training Kai to be a credible threat to groups of heroes. It seems very unlikely Kai will ever be defeated in PVP, unless she turns into a lich and is no longer able to use Rapid Heal. Actually, I'm not sure even turning into a lich will weaken her that much, but anyway... Would anyone like to volunteer to die/turn into an angel? I'm also willing to turn them into a demon, if it's allowed to resurrect people you kill as demons, assuming you yourself are a lich. I'll let you kill Ace, but since you are being such a pain, I'm gonna make him a pain to kill. He still has 15 points in Luck and Targeting to burn dramallama Would be a waste if he died without actually using them. Hey, it's not my fault Kai is so strong! You're the one who actually wanted me to level up even more, remember?
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:35 pm
Kai Merah Feiyimei Kai Merah I begin to realise that I may have overdone it when training Kai to be a credible threat to groups of heroes. It seems very unlikely Kai will ever be defeated in PVP, unless she turns into a lich and is no longer able to use Rapid Heal. Actually, I'm not sure even turning into a lich will weaken her that much, but anyway... Would anyone like to volunteer to die/turn into an angel? I'm also willing to turn them into a demon, if it's allowed to resurrect people you kill as demons, assuming you yourself are a lich. I'll let you kill Ace, but since you are being such a pain, I'm gonna make him a pain to kill. He still has 15 points in Luck and Targeting to burn dramallama Would be a waste if he died without actually using them. Hey, it's not my fault Kai is so strong! You're the one who actually wanted me to level up even more, remember? Yupperz, now, to burn off some points *w*
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:37 pm
Actually, post order. Dammit.
I'm also gonna edit the Luck/Targeting point system to specify that doing those actions will still cost SP/MP just so that it doesn't become a free hit.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:51 pm
Feiyimei I'll let you kill Ace, but since you are being such a pain, I'm gonna make him a pain to kill. He still has 15 points in Luck and Targeting to burn dramallama Would be a waste if he died without actually using them. Don't give up!!! Years of D&D and Final Fantasy have tough me that a party can beat seemingly impossible battles if they play it right.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:53 pm
Moonlight Calamity Feiyimei I'll let you kill Ace, but since you are being such a pain, I'm gonna make him a pain to kill. He still has 15 points in Luck and Targeting to burn dramallama Would be a waste if he died without actually using them. Don't give up!!! Years of D&D and Final Fantasy have tough me that a party can beat seemingly impossible battles if they play it right. D&D emotion_donotwant /jealous. None of my friends like D&D crying S'okay, I don't mind having Ace killed. it'll allow me to focus more on Kishi I guess razz
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:52 am
Feiyimei Actually, post order. Dammit. I'm also gonna edit the Luck/Targeting point system to specify that doing those actions will still cost SP/MP just so that it doesn't become a free hit. Why not just post? So long as everyone posts once before anyone else can post again, I don't see a problem.
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:53 am
Feiyimei Moonlight Calamity Feiyimei I'll let you kill Ace, but since you are being such a pain, I'm gonna make him a pain to kill. He still has 15 points in Luck and Targeting to burn dramallama Would be a waste if he died without actually using them. Don't give up!!! Years of D&D and Final Fantasy have tough me that a party can beat seemingly impossible battles if they play it right. D&D emotion_donotwant /jealous. None of my friends like D&D crying S'okay, I don't mind having Ace killed. it'll allow me to focus more on Kishi I guess razz I wanna play a tabletop game... I keep hearing about them, but I've never found anyone to play with... I even tried D&D online out of desperation, but my computer crapped out on me and refuses to let me play it for some reason...
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