OOC - NO U

[Joseph Brown]

I think it may be more Chen's the bad cop not because he's bad at his job but because he is the "bad cop" with nobody to play "good cop". He's styled after Asian gun-fu type cops more than police drama cops, and if you look at those you can see that in those movies both the cops and criminals that hold tight to their personal sense of honour evenmoreso than the rules of the police/gang are often the heroes. Personaly, while I think a more western cop that is chained by the limits of the law would be an interesting character... That's not Chen at all. He's someone that breaks the rules sometimes because he believes that sometimes its more important to get the badguy even if you sink into a bit of a morally grey area.

That said Vin, keeping to those movies I still think it should catch up to Chen someday. Perhaps not in the "excess litigation joke" but in more the tragic way they often unfold. Keep stuff in mind that would make interesting plothooks, and maybe have them come back to bite him in the a**.

I mean, the example most people remember, with James would have been much more interesting if Chen realized he had to let James go, but spent more time trying to "catch" Mr. Black and expose him in a way that "Justice would be done"... Not nessasarly by kicking him in the head.  

[Vahn Fah]

Noah's ability is Connections.

His wealth is unlimited thanks to the Foundation.

Implying his first reaction wouldn't be to throw a pack of lawyers that would put the OJ Simpson defense team to shame is like saying there is no Earth.

Granted, he'd probably humour Chen and see what he wants- but Noah ain't the kind of person that will just hulk up and start smashing Chen around for getting too close. In fact, nobody even knows if he HAS any "powers".  

[Fengrading]

Tenkai Matsumoto

if we applied the whole "unjust and illegal" thing

If you didn't, there'd be no need for a police force if laws are optional. Otherwise the 'police' are just a band of thugs that do whatever they want for whatever unshared view of 'justice' they have.

It comes down to Gaia being such an open world where literally everything is allowed. Being so open allows for limitless faggotry in one direction or another. The police idea doesn't work because there are no laws, because there's no defined state between one area or another, and every third person is a sovereign beyond the rules of wherever he's standing. And since every cop operates in the undefined gray area, it's easy to point out the loopholes and backwards behavior that totally opposes what they were supposed to have been acting for.

An organization with clearly defined rules; IE laws, like a LAW enforcement organization doesn't fit into a place inherently separate from those laws. You can't have something so definite like a limited list of rules applied to a place like Gaia that has no limits.

That said, if Chen is someone who does what he thinks is right, he was no different than anyone else. But if he is a police officer who is responsible to all kinds of unwritten and assumed litigation, then his actions will inevitably conflict the rules he's held to.

Cops don't work on Gaia because Gaia is a ******** retarded place. My character's mount is a gelatinous cube that's double parked over a handicapped spot. What are you going to do, arrest me and tow my ride?

I teleport out of the handcuffs/jail cell and the cube squeezes through the chainlink fence surrounding the impound lot.  

[Joseph Brown]

I think you may be overblowing the hate a bit Panda. Yes Chen wasn't the most popular when Vin first busted him out and was still getting a handle on the concept, but I think that has soften quite a bit. Even Cog has said that he's come to like Chen more now, and he was NOT a fan of Chen at all during unity. Is it fair that Chen has all that baggage? No not really, but that's the way she goes sometimes and all you can do is keep playing him the way you want to. Rembering that people were more fustrated at the way Chen was being played than the character concept itself.  

[Ryugi Kazamaru]

Elia Noah = Gendo Ikari

 

[Damnatus]

This is why there needs to be more Inquisitor/Witch Hunter/etc. types.

Filthy deviants committing heresy and crimes? FORCE MORALS DOWN THEIR CORRUPTED THROATS WITH FAITH AND FIRE.  

[Liliana Mythos Judge]

I've been keeping up with the stadium posts. It looks fun. Could I bring Liliana in or is it a closed off roleplay?  

[Joseph Brown]

Liliana Mythos Judge

I've been keeping up with the stadium posts. It looks fun. Could I bring Liliana in or is it a closed off roleplay?

More than open.  

[Fengrading]

Tenkai Matsumoto

But real world laws arent interested in making a good story. They're interested in keeping the peace.

Except ICly they would be interested in keeping the peace. If they only had rules to follow that could be AWESOME they'd be a weird, fourth-wall-breaking, confusing organization.

I'm not saying Chen can't take the laws into his own hands and bust a** to do what he thinks needs to be done.

I'm saying it's incredibly backwards and hypocritical to, in order to arrest people, do the same kind of illegal and violent things that you are arresting them for. Unless kicking unsuspecting people in the back of the head isn't illegal.

It's more of a philosophical argument about law and justice.  

[Kraun]

Witchers. Monster hunters.

Because theres nothing more badassed than walking around town with a face stuck to the hook on your belt as a trophy.  

[superpsyco77]

Madness.  

[Damnatus]

Tenkai Matsumoto

Because hijacking Gaia with Warhammer would make it all better, wouldn't it? >3>


There's already plenty of hunters and slayers on Gaia. It'd just get the same treatment.

But more seriously, when did Warhammer become the monopoly on these types? They were actual "professions", misguided they may have been, and in terms of fiction, they've been around since the early 1900's with Solomon Kane.

DO NOT LET YOUR HATE CLOUD YOUR JUDGEMENT, PADAWAN.