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[Nihilistic_Impact]

That's why you keep hospital schooling hard while lowering the tuition costs.

You'll most likely get more people applying and there may be an increase in initial burn out; but in the end that would be beneficial.

But that would most likely be socialist because some regulatory body would have to step in and tell people to stop being capitalist and price gouging individuals.  

[Lucind Varhetel]

Yeah. And please teach your lab workers how to take blood. I'm looking like a goddamn junkie.

...

That, was a joke, too. The guy was really nice.  

[Hi Im Reiko]

Anyway...

*Hugs Lucind*  

[Nihilistic_Impact]

I'm actually considering looking into Surgical Processing, seems I could make a decent income doing that.  

[Lucind Varhetel]

Wait...you're choosing a job depending on how much money you can make?

Couldn't do that. But well, to each his own.  

[The Thunder Tyrant]

Rising Hourglass

Tenkai Matsumoto

I dunno. I think socialized anything is a step in the wrong direction

Stop.


Darth: If you ever get the chance, I recommend reading this book:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/504974.Culture_War_The_Myth_of_a_Polarized_America

Dude did a ton of random sampling tests that have a lot of internal validity, and basically came to the conclusion that on an overwhelming majority of issues, including gay rights, the majority of Americans come to a general consensus. A consensus which doesn't come close to fitting the agenda of either party.

The issue is that in our current political setup, extremity to a party's laundry list of values = more party loyalty = more desirable position among the elites. And we're left choosing between black and white when our country really wants gray.

s**t sucks, there's no feasible way to change it quickly.

It's a really eye opening book, I definitely recommend it.

Thanks. That's exactly how I see it, and have for a while when I realized that there's no way so many people could have such polarized views. Some people are hard right and left, obviously, but the majority of America is somewhere down the middle.

This is why I don't really support the American political system or the federal government anymore. I refuse to vote or participate in anything that furthers the current policies of operation for the government, or the political parties we have.  

[Nihilistic_Impact]

I have bills to pay and I like job stability. I may be doing alright now; but surgical processing would only require a two year course to become certified and I would see a good increase in my annual income.

Granted it's nothing like what I would like to do and go back to school to get a degree in teaching so I could do high school history; but I have to weigh costs.

I can always become a teacher later in life.  

[Rising Hourglass]

If you want to talk about a career path that really gets ******** financially, I'd say psychologists.

Unless you get your Ph.D, which doesn't give you the hands on experience of treating people like obtaining a Psy.D does, and is arguably foolhardy to go for until you have work experience, you're paying about $250,000-300,000 for it, not including undergrad.

You come out making about $70k.  

[Lucind Varhetel]

Well, then I hope you'll like that field at least a little. I find it frustrating to have a job that doesn't really satisfy you. ... But well, I probably shouldn't lean too far out of the window concerning this topic since I never had to -really- worry about my financial situation.  

[Vintrict]

I was originally going to go to school for Art. Why? I love art. I have been doing it since Elementary. I was one of the best in each class I took, and I enjoyed the praises I got. It's what kept me going in making even more art: appreciation. In fact, I was going to get into the Art Institute down the road.

But in High School, I took up computer programming, teaching myself how to make games. I wasn't planning on making it a living. I just did it because I loved to see my creations come to life, and have people play them.

But I didn't plan that well and I wasn't getting in scholarships DESPITE my high GPA and good standing in school. Provided, I could have went to this one college school in southern-western Texas that would have given me a scholarship if I went into accounting, but I don't like accounting.

So my counselor told me about the college that will automatically let me in due to my grades, so I said sure. It was one of the top in the state, called UNT. So I go there, and choose the major of computer science. Why? Because there are better opportunities for it than for people who do art. In fact, art is competitive at UNT, and it's pretty hard to get into the classes there. I knew how to do computer programming, so that's what I went to.

And now, doing art is just a hobby...but sometimes, I feel hollow. I feel like I'm lying to myself everytime I'm sitting there typing at the computer.  

[The Thunder Tyrant]

I come from a fairly poor background, so I might as well work for happiness rather than money, because I learned how to spend my money very well a long, long time ago.

Even if I get a job that pays seventy, a hundred, or two hundred thousand dollars a year.. I'll still spend like I'm on a 30k budget or less.

I've lived on a 15-24k budget before, for the past two or three years, actually, without that much of a problem.

When I'm on my own and making a fair amount of money, I'm going to be retardedly skilled at saving money for s**t like retirement or vacation.. or whatever I damn well want, because I'm used to living looking over my shoulder for the potential bust of going broke.  

[Rising Hourglass]

Tenkai Matsumoto

Rising Hourglass

Tenkai Matsumoto

I dunno. I think socialized anything is a step in the wrong direction

Stop.

Stop what? D: I though we were discuss--...nevermind. ><

This is why I generally hate political discussions anyway.

Always. Never. Can't. Definitely.

Black and white terms. s**t like that is why our political system is so horrible.

Look in a shade of gray. Nothing is always an awful idea and nothing is always a great policy.

Thinking like that restricts innovation, cooperation from neighboring political institutions, etc. It is one of the reasons we are decades behind Europe on things like health care.  

[Vintrict]

The Darth Vizzle

I come from a fairly poor background, so I might as well work for happiness rather than money, because I learned how to spend my money very well a long, long time ago.

Even if I get a job that pays seventy, a hundred, or two hundred thousand dollars a year.. I'll still spend like I'm on a 30k budget or less.

I've lived on a 15-24k budget before, for the past two or three years, actually, without that much of a problem.

When I'm on my own and making a fair amount of money, I'm going to be retardedly skilled at saving money for s**t like retirement or vacation.. or whatever I damn well want, because I'm used to living looking over my shoulder for the potential bust of going broke.

I'm glad someone else thinks like this.

I'm a simple man. All I need is a few things and I can be happy for the rest of my life. I know I'll have a family to tend to later in life, but for now, I like to live simply. Sure, there's that dream of traveling around the world and visiting beautiful geographical places while they are still there. Should have done photography for that. And yet again, that's because I like beautiful things, especially nature.

But yeah, I can live off one hundred thousand dollars with ease. I don't spend much.  

[Hi Im Reiko]

Sounds like you guys need to learn how to let go of attachment to money related issues and find a way to make it work.

I had an epiphany while being homeless for a month last year. I managed to figure out exactly what I wanted to do with my time every day.

Since then, everything I do now is an effort to clear my schedule so that I have space to do those things. All that's left is to clear my schedule of work.

And that goal is coming along steadily.