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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:29 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:56 pm
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:45 am
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:21 pm
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alliop Paracket It probably came easy to Plato. He was a philosopher. IE, man who loves wisdom. He wanted to do it for the sake of it, not to gain a paycheck. (And like you said, he didn't really need one.) I don't think many would even consider teaching people without a paycheck these days, even if they were a billionaire. The concept's foreign. =P When has a love for philosophy been a requirement for being a philosopher? Never said it was a requirement. That's the meaning of the word.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:41 pm
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:10 am
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alliop Paracket It probably came easy to Plato. He was a philosopher. IE, man who loves wisdom. He wanted to do it for the sake of it, not to gain a paycheck. (And like you said, he didn't really need one.) I don't think many would even consider teaching people without a paycheck these days, even if they were a billionaire. The concept's foreign. =P When has a love for philosophy been a requirement for being a philosopher?
A lesson in roots of words
Philo-Love Sophie-Wisdom Er-a suffix for someone who does.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:35 pm
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the reason why sophists are so disliked among philosophers is, as germanicus2 suggested, that they teach rhetoric without looking into the nature of things. they teach people to make logically inferior arguments that should not hold up appear to actually be strong enough to defeat the superior argument. they use trick arguments to spread misinformation, and use these logical fallacies to support immoralism, decadence, and hedonism.
on the other side, some of socrates' arguments were trick arguments, too, but he was always concerned with finding the truth and nature of things, and with morality, so he was "better" than the sophists. the sophists were nothing but tricksters trying to get their own way - socrates used both valid techniques, and their own tricks, against them to try and make people more concerned with truth and morality. sophists made the world worse with their immoralism, socrates tried to make it better. if you read "gorgias" or any of the dialogues mentioned earlier you will get a clearer understanding of why the socratic method was preferred to sophistry
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