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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:56 pm


This is a thread to clear all the myths about mental illness out of peoples minds.

There are many myths and missunderstandings with mental illness, which cause people to say silly things which can annoy people with the mental illness the myth is about! I want to stop this, as it annoys me.

Please tell me about any other myths and I will research and include them! I would also greatly appreciate you telling me any mistakes I have made in the information or in typing it out. smile

First post - Schizophrenia
Second post - Anorexia
Third post - Dysthymic Disorder (this might not appear for a while! sweatdrop )
Fourth post - Self-injury
Fifth post - Autism (written by Civet Moon)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:39 am


Schizophrenia

There are a lot of myths and missunderstandings about schizophrenia, so I thought it was a good starting point. It's a well-known and unfortunately common mental illness.

People commonly think schizophrenia is to do with a split personalty or multiple personalites. This is not true in any way! I don't really know where the confusion stems from, but it is very commonly belived. The only mental illness causing multiple personalities is Dissacociative Idenitity Disorder (formerly Multiple Personality Disorder). As far as I know, having a split personality is not a sypmtom of mental illness at all.

People also commonly think schizophrenics hear voices. This is a symptom of schizophrenia (particulaly paranoid schizophrenia) but does not apply to all schizophrenics. 'Voices' are a type of hallucination. People with schizophrenia may also see, feel or smell things that actaully there. Hallucinations can be caused by things other than schizophrenia.


To give a proper definition of schizophrenia I have 'translated' the diagnostic criteria with the help of a post from Smart Alex a while ago.

A. Two or more of the thigns below must occur frequently during the space of one month.

1) Strongly-held, strange and illogical beliefs.

2) Hallucinations(seeing, hearing, feeling, smelling or tasting things that are not really there)

3)Talking nonsense. This can inlude linking ideas that are not related at all, talking so all the words are real words but just seem to be randomly thrown together in a nonsensical way (eg. "Popcorn kettle black with eight good morning") or talking about one subject and then concluding on another.

4)Doing extremely repetitive or illogical things or refusing to move completely for very long periods of time.

5) Not doing things normal people do. Someone with this might not show any facial expression, or not speak.

Note: Only one of these, rather than two, is required if the person has extremely strange and illogical beliefs (like believing he/she is being stalked by aliens) or if the person hears a voice that is not real commenting on what they are doing or if the person hears two or more voices that are not real talking to each other.


B. The person cannot take care of themself well or work properly or have normal relationships with people.

C. This stuff has to have been happening for at least 6 months.

D, E and F. This stuff isn't caused by a mood disorder, a pervasive developmental disorder or substance abuse (acahol or drug addiction), because then, obviously, that would be the problem rather than schizophrenia.


This was not posted so you can self-diagnose. It was posted to give people an understanding of what the illness actually is.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:41 am


Anorexia

Incorrect beliefs about anorexia or other eating disorders are more missunderstandings than myths. Here I hope to clear them up. I don't know that much about eating disorders, so if you do and you have a suggestion of what I could write here, please tell me!

'Anorexia is not a real illness. It's just being image-obsessed.'

Strangely enough, people really do belive this! I will now admit I used to be one of them. No, anorexia is a real and serious illness. If someone was 'just image obsessed', they would be more likely to just skip meals occasionally to stay just slightly underweight. Anorexics can never see themselves as thin enough. They can have distorted body images, but still see themselves as fat and ugly. Theycan get so thin that they cannot tolerate cold, injure themselves easily and are more prone to illness.

'Anorexia only affects girls.'

Teenage girls are the people most likely to suffer from eating disorders, but adult women, adult men, teenage boys and even children can get it.

'Anorexics loose weight by not eating and bulimics loose weight from vomiting.'

Anorexics can lose weight by exteme amounts of exersize, diet eating, diet pills, laxatives and vomiting. Bulimics can lose weight by laxatives or extreme exersize. The difference between anorexia and bulumia is that bulimics binge eat and then purge what they have eaten.

'People cannot have more than one eating disorder'

I have found out by research today, that this is incorrect. It is very common for someone to suffer with more than one eating disorder. That just proves that the eating behaviors are only the symptoms, not the problem.

'Anorexics never recover'

I'm very surprised to hear that people think this. 80% do eventually recover. 50% recover fully so they do not see food as a problem anymore at all. smile 30% recover from the eating disorder but not what triggered it and still need treatment.

'You can always tell if someone has an eating disorder because their bodies look far too thin or fat.'

Eating disorders are mental problems, not physical. People can be treated before they reach the stage before they become noticably ill.

'Anorexia is purely about weight loss'

It is often partially (or sometimes completely) about control rather than weight loss. What you eat is something you are in control of almost completely, and people can result to eating disorders to feel in control of something. Starving oneself is also addictive.

I hope this has cleared up all the myths! ^-^
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:42 am


Self-Injury

Though this is not an illness, it is linked with mental illness and seems to need explaining! So, here I will put stuff you might have heard about SI and the facts about it.

"Self-injurers just want attention"

Anyone who says this in this thread shall be shot. ninja
This is only very rarely true. One person in a group of forty-three Gain self-injurers did it for attention. A lot of self-injurers hide the marks left from it and avoid talking about it. They wouldn't do that if they wanted attention, would they?
And also, if someone is doing it attention, don't you think that's still a bit wrong? I mean, we've all wanted attention, I think. But would you consider painfully injuring yourself so it leaves clear marks for others to see to get attention? I think not.

"They hurt themselves because they are depressed/ they want to die"

Either can be true, as with the one above, though self-injury is not a suicide attmept (then it wouldn't have it's own term - it would jsut be called suicide).

Everyone's reasons are slightly different, but I don't think anyone does it in a correct state of mind. When most people hurt themselves, they are either faced with an emotion so strong they can't cope with it and hurt themselves as a way of dealing with things. Or, they don't care about anything at that point in time so they don't see any reason not to hurt themselves. Self-injury can be physically and mentally addictive, so people find it hard to stop. Smart Alex has also reminded me that some people hurt themselves when they are psychotic, or don't realise what they are doing.

"Self-injury is cutting oneself"

Nooooooo! This one irratates me a lot though it's not a particularly harmful missunderstanding.

Self-injury is quite simply injuring oneself on purpose. It is not generally applied to hurting onself for pleasure (masochism? Is that the word?). So it can be cutting, hitting, burning, breaking bones, overdosing, pulling out hair and stoping wounds from healing properly can all be self-injury (but not always are).

"Most self-injurers think hurting themselves is a good thing, and need to get proffessional help to stop."

Well, I don't know about 'most', but it is sadly true that there are pro-self-injury people and pro-self-injury websites on the net. Luckily, I think the majority of those who do it and can identify it want to stop.

Though proffessional help is probably a huge benefit in some cases, I would recommend that if one of your friends ever does it, to keep their secret and try and help them with your support at first, before getting everyone invlolved. This could be stressful, and cause them to worsen their self-injury or create further problems. Of course, if you think your friend is in immediate danger, tell someone. If they cannot stop on their own, or with the help of their friends, then therapy is probably beneficial.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:43 am


People who know me in real life will understand the nonsense I have typed as an example of word salad/ incoherence. wink
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:44 am


Civet Moon

Common misconceptions about autism:

1. All autistics are nonverbal. On the contrary, many autistics can speak, and even many nonverbal autistics can write. The diagnostic criteria for autism states that there must be language or speech delays, but that does not mean that speech never develops, or it is always echolaliac. Also, the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's Syndrome (considered by most to be a form of high-functioning autism), states that there must be no significant language delays (otherwise Kanner's type autism will be diagnosed).

2. All autistics are great at math I blame this stereotype on the movie "Rain Man." While it is true that many autistics have an eye for details and are good at systemizing, this does not mean that all autistics are great at math, in particular. These talents can manifest themselves in a number of ways, including (but not limited to), computer science and programming, art, math, and music.

3. All autistics have some savant skill. Wrong! While the percentage of autistics with a savant skill is greater than the percentage of the nonautistic population with savant skills, that does not mean all autistics have some special, amazing ability like lightning calculation, eidic memory, or a mental calendar. It is actually a fairly small percentage of autistics who have these types of abilities.

4. All autistics are profoundly disabled, and will never be able to live on their own. While this is true of many low-functioning autistics, autism is a spectrum disorder. This means that there are individuals at the lowest end of the scale who are not able to care for themselves, and individuals at the higher-functioning end of the scale who are more often able to care for themselves and in many cases work and live for themselves in adulthood.

5. Autism can be cured. Autism is a neurological disorder. While the exact cause is unknown, it has been noted in many studies that the autistic brain is fundamentally different from a nonautistic brain, in either structure, activity, or both. Therefore, if someone is autistic, they are autistic for life. They can not be "cured," but their autistic behaviors and problems can be diminished with behavioral training, particularly in early intervention.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:35 pm


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Does anyone know of any other common missunderstandings?

Random thought from a random visitor: The differences between dysthymia and depression would be interesting. The vast majority of people have no clue what dysthymia is, and I for one would like to learn more about it.

(Note: I don't have any mental issues, but I'm very interested in psychology. Therefore, I checked out your guild. It's very well designed!)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:45 pm


Empress Sun
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Does anyone know of any other common missunderstandings?

Random thought from a random visitor: The differences between dysthymia and depression would be interesting. The vast majority of people have no clue what dysthymia is, and I for one would like to learn more about it.

(Note: I don't have any mental issues, but I'm very interested in psychology. Therefore, I checked out your guild. It's very well designed!)


Could you tell me about dysthymia? I will research it too, but not now as I am very tired.

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Empress Sun

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:59 am


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Empress Sun
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Does anyone know of any other common missunderstandings?

Random thought from a random visitor: The differences between dysthymia and depression would be interesting. The vast majority of people have no clue what dysthymia is, and I for one would like to learn more about it.

(Note: I don't have any mental issues, but I'm very interested in psychology. Therefore, I checked out your guild. It's very well designed!)


Could you tell me about dysthymia? I will research it too, but not now as I am very tired.

Sure, here's some info: http://www.mental-health-matters.com/disorders/dis_details.php?disID=43
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:59 pm


Empress Sun
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Empress Sun
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Does anyone know of any other common missunderstandings?

Random thought from a random visitor: The differences between dysthymia and depression would be interesting. The vast majority of people have no clue what dysthymia is, and I for one would like to learn more about it.

(Note: I don't have any mental issues, but I'm very interested in psychology. Therefore, I checked out your guild. It's very well designed!)


Could you tell me about dysthymia? I will research it too, but not now as I am very tired.

Sure, here's some info: http://www.mental-health-matters.com/disorders/dis_details.php?disID=43


I am having trouble understanding this, but I am trying.

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rockin_my_sox

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:25 pm


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Empress Sun
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Does anyone know of any other common missunderstandings?

Random thought from a random visitor: The differences between dysthymia and depression would be interesting. The vast majority of people have no clue what dysthymia is, and I for one would like to learn more about it.

(Note: I don't have any mental issues, but I'm very interested in psychology. Therefore, I checked out your guild. It's very well designed!)


Could you tell me about dysthymia? I will research it too, but not now as I am very tired.

Sure, here's some info: http://www.mental-health-matters.com/disorders/dis_details.php?disID=43


I am having trouble understanding this, but I am trying.

so is this like a lesser form of depression?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:36 am


rockin_my_sox
so is this like a lesser form of depression?


Oh, I wouldn't call Dysthymic Disorder "lesser," though it is a Depressive Disorder, because it has to last over two years in adults, wheras other Depressive Disoders include any Major Depressive Episode over two weeks! However, Dysthymic Disorder does not include suicidal ideation or thoughts of death in its list of symptoms, as is common with a Major Depressive Episode.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:40 am


Random visitor, requested to join but all guild moderators are offline... And I'm impatient to post, so yeah...

I still have no clue how shizophrenia was mixed up with DID... I think I'll just do a search on it; maybe there's some info on that...

I just really don't see much of a relation between the two, though I'm hardly qualified in this or anything... Are there any relations between the two, maybe? Like, a common symptom that could have helped the misconception along, maybe?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:51 am


[chimera]
Random visitor, requested to join but all guild moderators are offline... And I'm impatient to post, so yeah...

I still have no clue how shizophrenia was mixed up with DID... I think I'll just do a search on it; maybe there's some info on that...

I just really don't see much of a relation between the two, though I'm hardly qualified in this or anything... Are there any relations between the two, maybe? Like, a common symptom that could have helped the misconception along, maybe?


I think people with DID also have hallcuinations, but other than that I can see nothing in common!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:55 am


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[chimera]
Random visitor, requested to join but all guild moderators are offline... And I'm impatient to post, so yeah...

I still have no clue how shizophrenia was mixed up with DID... I think I'll just do a search on it; maybe there's some info on that...

I just really don't see much of a relation between the two, though I'm hardly qualified in this or anything... Are there any relations between the two, maybe? Like, a common symptom that could have helped the misconception along, maybe?


I think people with DID also have hallcuinations, but other than that I can see nothing in common!

Le gasp, someone is online!

Yeah... Well, people being how they are, they could see that similarity and just jump to the conclusion that they're the same thing? I don't know. Probably just another example of people being wierd.

Of course, that's what I blame EVERYTHING on, practically... sweatdrop
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