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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:20 pm
I'm Irish [much], Welsh, and German on my Da's side. Wouldn't that be called Celtic? He calls it that. In Yahoo answers, when I was asking about the living differences of American and Irish, I wrote about my Celtic side; referring to it as Celtic, and all repliers denied the question and scolded on the use of the word 'Celtic'. Even though I used it on myself, they took the offense onto themselves. [My Da saw it coming.] But truly. Is there any other way to call myself?
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:45 am
I would say you are part Celtic, part Germanic, although it's quite possible your dad might have Celtic connections. I would take no offence to you calling yourself Celtic, but it may not be strictly accurate. It's not something I would quibble about though biggrin
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:48 am
♔ Thank you for that! It's a tough thing, I'm learning about the Celtics in my Irish History text book, and comparing it to the modern use of the word! I'm planning to move to Ireland, and just want something to call myself without any offense.

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:10 pm
We don't usually use the word Celtic much to describe ourselves, we might say "Irish" or "part Irish" or "half Irish" if people ask. Celtic is a much broader term used for all the race, so in Ireland one would not usually refer to oneself as Celtic, as such, although we are.......it's kinda hard to explain lol In your case, the most common thing to say would be "Irish on my mother's side". That pretty much makes you Irish in anyone's eyes. We love claiming people as ours xd
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:31 pm
♔ [ Referring to your last sentence - ] lol! That's good cause in heart, I'd die to be 100% Irish! I swear, it may just be my spiritual homeland! I might say, "I'm Irish on my Da's side" then. ^^ Thank you! Any tips about changing over to American lifestyled to Irish for my move over there? I have no idea what to do! I thought I planned everything threw! O.o Sligo?

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:55 pm
You need a sense of humour biggrin Irish people can be pretty sharp, they like to poke fun a bit. You have to be able to take a "slagging", which means not take "joke" insults seriously. Give as good as you get, be relaxed. Really people are much the same all over. Bring rainwear! You will find a degree of American as well as British influence here, so don't try to be too Irish, if you know what I mean. Nobody wears a lot of green lol You will find a lot of it very familiar really, including plenty of McDonalds xd It's just all smaller, and wetter. The most Irish areas are West and South West, where you will find things more traditional, Irish is spoken a lot, loads of Irish music and the landscape is uniquely Irish. Sligo, in the West, is not the most exciting area, I'm afraid, but it's close to many beautiful areas.
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:05 pm
♔ Thank you for all that! I'll remember always! Well, my Da is a huge amount Irish. His best friends are Irish, and in my Irish history studies, he knows a lot of it and corrects me always. He matches that description. He always pokes fun [and doesn't know when to quit] and many times, his "victims" just sit there giving the impression "what's with this guy?" after a joke. Lol! His family are farmers from Sligo, and it seems they've been there for a very long time. (The O'hara s.) Although, I live in the 2nd largest town in the area right now, I think I'd like to settle in a small town / village. I'm not sure if I'm the type though. I'm also a bit scared of the mushroom tomes around Northern Ireland? Queen Medb's tome is right outside of Sligo town, and it seems to be a bit of a problem for me. And isn't Sligo a Gaelic hot spot? I've tried learning, but I can never trust anything with all the different Gaelic versions. I'll never know if what I'm learning is Irish Gaelic or Scottish.

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:08 pm
If your part Irish and Welsh, you would more than likely have strong Celtic connections. Tbh those people are just eejits, dont listen to them. Why should they care? (probably jealous biggrin ). I guess being called a Celt is a very old term to describe ones roots or whatever, usually people just state whether they are Irish, Welsh, Scottish etc in the modern age. Even though Irish, Welsh and Scottish have Celtic pasts and bloodlines the culture has developed differently (dancing, writing/literature, music etc) and thus influenced each differently. Personally, i think if you feel Ireland is your homeland, then by all means be Irish 3nodding
Pretty much what Azyure has said is spot on (you live in Ireland Azyure?). Irish mentality is very laid back and as she said the Irish people 'like to poke fun' as in people like to have a laugh at themselves and others (sland being called 'craic'). If you want to experience Ireland for its more traditional views then yeah the west is best, albeit i wouldnt restrict to being just to that one spot. It's nice to vist all over, Dublin city has some sights (Book of Kells in Trinity College), Wicklow (where im from) has Glendalough, which is a fabulously preserved monastic settlement. Every county will have somthing that will entice you to go and have a look.
And shes also right, we dont wear alot of green lol
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:19 pm
Cravez If your part Irish and Welsh, you would more than likely have strong Celtic connections. Tbh those people are just eejits, dont listen to them. Why should they care? (probably jealous biggrin ). I guess being called a Celt is a very old term to describe ones roots or whatever, usually people just state whether they are Irish, Welsh, Scottish etc in the modern age. Even though Irish, Welsh and Scottish have Celtic pasts and bloodlines the culture has developed differently (dancing, writing/literature, music etc) and thus influenced each differently. Personally, i think if you feel Ireland is your homeland, then by all means be Irish 3nodding Pretty much what Azyure has said is spot on (you live in Ireland Azyure?). Irish mentality is very laid back and as she said the Irish people 'like to poke fun' as in people like to have a laugh at themselves and others (sland being called 'craic'). If you want to experience Ireland for its more traditional views then yeah the west is best, albeit i wouldnt restrict to being just to that one spot. It's nice to vist all over, Dublin city has some sights (Book of Kells in Trinity College), Wicklow (where im from) has Glendalough, which is a fabulously preserved monastic settlement. Every county will have somthing that will entice you to go and have a look. And shes also right, we dont wear alot of green lol Yes, I'm Irish, in Ireland. Oh you are right about Wicklow, it's fabulous, very ancient and beautiful, you can soak up a lot of heritage there, and Dublin is a must. Fortunately, nowhere is very far from anywhere else, just a few hundred miles, so it's easy enough to explore the country. It's definitely best to learn the Irish language (Erse) from a native speaker, otherwise you might not get the accents right. However, there are also several accents within the language, North, South, West, but that doesn't really matter so much. Irish is not our first language, English is, most of us actually have to learn our original language in school ourselves, the only areas Irish is spoken a lot is the West and South/South-West.
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:20 pm
♔ Thank you Cravez! (I'm not in an American household, and my Da often scolds me for believing in the way they celebrate St. Patrick's day here. "Leprechauns aren't all good and friendly. America made it seem that way." - His last scold, as I entered the myths of my Irish History home schooling with Pooka, Changlings, and Leprechauns. Thank you for Celtic support. ^^ I won't listen (as much) to that anymore. My Da says the word "Celtic" is an open wound subject for some people. And Dublin is a city of amazing things, but I'm more interested in quiet towns and villages like in County Sligo? Where my family came from.

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:22 pm
♔ Azyure - I didn't see your post! Hold on - writing a response! I'm so glad there's at least 3 of us in Celtic 50% ! Happy! x3

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:26 pm
♔ My Da is actually importing some secondary school text books from Ireland? So I'm taking to schools at once basically, in two cultures. The biggest concern at the moment is my learning Gaelic. I've learned a little, and lost it all when I tried going for learning out of a book. Read a bit far, and discovered it was Scottish and lost everything few I knew. I desperately want to learn though.

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:36 pm
A_n_n_a ♔ Thank you Cravez! (I'm not in an American household, and my Da often scolds me for believing in the way they celebrate St. Patrick's day here. "Leprechauns aren't all good and friendly. America made it seem that way." - His last scold, as I entered the myths of my Irish History home schooling with Pooka, Changlings, and Leprechauns. Thank you for Celtic support. ^^ I won't listen (as much) to that anymore. My Da says the word "Celtic" is an open wound subject for some people. And Dublin is a city of amazing things, but I'm more interested in quiet towns and villages like in County Sligo? Where my family came from.
 I have never really heard of Celticness being much of an issue for argument here, maybe it is more so in other countries, where "celts" are more dispersed. I'm afraid the whole Leprechaun think is mostly just minor folklore and a more tourist thing now, to be honest, a silly fun side of our heritage but belonging to the more stereotypical aspects of people's view of what is Irish, like Aran sweaters and thatched cottages and donkeys and red hair and freckles and so on. The "true" Irish coloring is dark hair and blue eyes, the red comes from, I think, Viking invaders, or possibly the Normans, or both. It might be better to wait until you come here to learn Irish really, you can learn the vocabulary and grammer, but speaking it well is best done here, or you could look for Irish language language CDs, that would be good.
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:37 pm
A_n_n_a ♔ Thank you Cravez! (I'm not in an American household, and my Da often scolds me for believing in the way they celebrate St. Patrick's day here. "Leprechauns aren't all good and friendly. America made it seem that way." - His last scold, as I entered the myths of my Irish History home schooling with Pooka, Changlings, and Leprechauns. Thank you for Celtic support. ^^ I won't listen (as much) to that anymore. My Da says the word "Celtic" is an open wound subject for some people. And Dublin is a city of amazing things, but I'm more interested in quiet towns and villages like in County Sligo? Where my family came from.
 Yeah, it aint all lucky charms (damn kellogs) and pots of gold when it comes to Leprachauns xd . Hmm i do not know much about Sligo myself, i only went there briefly when i was around 6-7 years old as we were holidaying in Mayo (small little bungalow in the middle of nowhere, peat turfs and everything! loved it!). But it is on the West/North-West of Ireland so im sure it will have strong traditional feeling there. You could do some reading here? Thats great your getting some Irish School books, if you have no problem with your current school you wont have a problem with ours. The thing i found with Gaelige is that the Basics are easy, then once the it becomes more structured it becomes harder (pretty obvious, but it would be harder than some other languages i think). But if you have a genuine interest and love for it, it wont be a problem. It would be better learning it here in Ireland
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:49 pm
♔ [Azyure] - From my home schooling, it explained tons. The red hair, green eyes, and freckles were what the old Celtic looked like, of the time of Julius Caesar. I know that much. As for the leprechauns, well - my Da kinda believes in them. Goes back to my great grandpa's farm, but still. Although, isn't it true that there are still some places in Ireland that have thick green pastures and sheep herding? Things such as that? Perhaps even openly? Like a park? Where I could do some painting, or reading, or writing my stories? And as for getting there - We're heading over to visit in the summer time, but I have no idea where to get anything Gaelic related done.
[Cravez] - Lol, I agree with you on kellogs! And I've heard of Mayo! A county? Mayo County? And Sligo is as western as anything. Do you think I'd be traditional? [Clicks the link.] Thank you for the link! I'll check that out now! Well, the only problem I have with Gaelic is finding a person, or a book I can trust that it's Irish Gaelic and not Scottish Gaelic, or any other form. "Kaileen" (if spelling correctly = girl) was very different in Scottish Gaelic, if that wasn't Scottish Gaelic! (Everything is wrong when it comes to Gaelic in my head.) I know some things, like. . . Um. . . Ta me garrid? (Spelled terribly wrong. . . )

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