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 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:18 am
B/c this guild is sorta, dieing (maybe me just imagining it, but yea), or slow, I am going to create a Q&A thread on anything. From:
a.) MS/MA
b.) Character
c.) Military Tactics
d.) Games
e.) Merchandise
f.) etc
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so now that the great Shani (I used him in G-Gen DS, my god, he is awesome... ******** over all those bastards who uses I-field/beam coat armor) will use this thread for like info and stuff, I am hoping that people will ask questions, or even add fun factoids (such as my CE navigation). As well, if you want to contribute a different answer for specific question, please specify which question you are dealing with, rather than quoting people...
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:21 am
The Answer Page: question 1) So you know the RX-78 GP03-Dendrobium? It was non NT MS/MA, right? So do you believe it is possible to equip the MS/MA with Psych-frame, and then rather than the missiles, supply them with funnels (not fin, but the canaster looking ones, like the ones used in in Sasabi, Yakt Douga, and Qubelle). But keep the big beam cannon, and the big beam sword (b/c those two are essential...=P). The problems I see in this is: 1.) How strong of a NT do we need? B/c the most I seen someone opperate is four (Amuro's fin fannel shield), or was it more (Quess' A-Aziel) 2.) The immense head ache you get after using it so yea, doable/possible/impossible? ~from Barsona answer: Xeon Sempai As overpowered as the GP03 is, by the time the psycoframe was in common use, the GP03 had been far eclipsed in almost every category of technology, it would be but a decade old relic in a world full of newtype weapons. The alpha Azeriu has nearly twice the acceleration and a variety of newtype style weapons stock, which it was of course designed to carry, as opposed to some afterthought addition. Old armor, old engines, old weapon systems, extremely outdated core MS... I suppose the I-field would be handy, but with the ever increasing power of beam weapons, it would be less and less able to stand the strain(I presume that I-fields do take a strain upon blocking/absorbing a beam shot, if expressed as heat or just strain on the mechanics of the generator itself. Plus, the GP03's I-field generator, while massive, is also very unprotected, and almost all CCA era MS carried at least one type of missile weapon, which would be able to pass through an I-field as if it were nonexistant.). Naturally the ideal would be to have it equipped with a battleship class beam shield of victory era with the generators in a ring around the beam cannon. You know, like a beam spewing umbrella of doom. Funnels would also be ideal in this situation, as the pilot could attack with his cannon and funnels/bits at long range, in the relative safety of his very own beam shield.  (I love that screencap) And while we're at it, we may as well give it beam flag generators, because you know, it might have to lead troops or something.  I suppose if more than one prototype GP03 unit had been constructed, the EF would have refit it ala Salamis(kai) and used it forever and ever and ever(and the various GM refits, of course)... So is it feasible? Likely. Would it be more worthwhile than just building a newer and more efficient unit? I really doubt it. The GP03 design was just a money sink anyways and refitting it would take excessive amounts of time and cost of development. On the other hand, funnels would fix the deficiency of it having to come back to resupply every few minutes, always a plus. Also, why would you get a headache after using it? Certainly this was characteristic of certain(inherently flawed) mobile weapons(psycho and psycho II spring to mind), but as a whole newtype systems don't seem to put a massive amount of strain on the pilot. question 2) it has come to me, when watching Z-Gundam, that all the movile suit, when reentering Earth, needed some kind of heat shield. Then I remembered, in SEED, and in SEED Destiny, pilots, just used their shield to come back (in some cases, they just went head on). Why is there such a gap? Are the UC era MS, have weak armor compared to 1.) Strike Gundam 2.) Freedom Gundam 3.) Justice Gundam 4.) Zaku Warrior 5.) Force Impulse Gundam 6.) Savior Gundam 7.) Strike Freedom 8.) Infinite Justice (these are the MS in CE that I remember coming into the atmosphere without any heat shield) ~from Barsona answer: Xeon Sempai The RX-78 reportedly reentered with just the standard material shield. Amuro was in better shape than Kira was, too. Of course, he read the book to see how to do that(Kira of course, didn't think to look for a game guide under the seat). But anyways, in CE things work less how they should and more how the plot writers think will work towards getting themselves more money/ratings. question 3) One day, while walking around my campus, I was thinking of how to make my custom model (hopefully, I can make it, take a pic of it, and show it here). it was going to be an NT class MS with funnels (b/c I just love the noise they make, and literally, they are a small bundle of joy and pwnage). But I was thinking, since this was a model from CE, why not make it a Dragoon system. cool name too (also reminds me of star craft). Then it hits, HOW THE ******** DO THEY WORK??? I mean, for a funnel, it was controlled by the brainwave of the operator, using some kind of psychomu, and stick a energy packet on it for shooting and propulsion, and wallah! a funnel, but what about the Dragoon system? Is it like the income mechanics of scanning the operators brain? ~from Barsona NowhereManXP How exactly the pilot controls a DRAGOON System is a little ambiguous. As of CE 71, it takes someone with "extraordinary spacial awareness" (like Mu la Flaga, Rau Le Creuset, Courtney Hieronymous, Morgan Chevalier, Prayer Reverie, etc.) to control remote weapons. In CE 73 this requirement no longer exists, as advancements in the technology allow basically anybody to control remote weapons to some degree of effectiveness. How exactly the DRAGOON System itself directs its remote weapons is also mysterious. It uses something called "quantum communication" to control its weapons pods, although what "quantum communication" is isn't really expounded upon. Many will tell you that "quantum communication" is made possible using Mirage Colloid Systerm technology, although this doesn't seem to be (entirely) the case. As of CE 73, all Mirage Colloid System technology has been banned by the Junius Treaty, and the weapon pods of the ZGMS-X24S Chaos therefore don't utilize such equipment and still seem to operate just fine. Basically, we're at "square one" with how the DRAGOON System works. Ophiuchus The problem with the theory outlined there is everybody sort of ******** the treaty in the a**. Neutron Jammers and Neutron Jammer Cancellers were also banned in the treaty. Yet both sides produced prototypes of this nature (EA's N Dagger N and ZAFT's Prototype ZAKU) So it is possible Chaos and Protochaos DO use mirage colloid system communication signals on their pods. NowhereManXP Not so. ZAFT actually intended to comply with the Junius Treaty, which actually threw a wrench into some of their technology. For instance, because Mirage Colloid technology was outlawed by the Junius Treaty, ZAFT had to redesign its Beam Sabers so that they were compliant with the Treaty. This was also true for the DRAGOON System. As for the non-compliant Mobile Suits... The GAT-SO2R N Dagger N and ZGMF-X999A ZAKU Mass Production Trial Type were actually created before the signing of the Junius Treaty. We first see the Trial Type ZAKU during the South American War for Independence, in December of CE 71. The Junius Treaty was not signed until March 10, CE 72. Following the signing of the Treaty, ZAFT redesigned its Mobile Suits so that they'd be Treaty-compliant. The GAT-SO2R N Dagger N was in its development stages when the Junius Treaty was signed. Upon the activation of the Treaty, the Earth Alliance officially discarded this design... though they continued it as a "Black Ops" project. Another victim of the Junius Treaty was the original ZGMF-XX09T DOM Trooper, which was meant to utilize Mirage Colloid. However, when the Treaty was signed, that feature was scrapped. question 4) What about Legend and Destiny's power sources? They're a superior type of battery, due to the ability to power all that beamy s**t, but they aren't nuclear powered, as they have a power guage. ~from Ophiuchus NowhereManXP That's a great question. As of yet, we've been unable to figure out exactly what makes them tick. Unfortunately most of the speculation compiled on this subject disappeared when GOUF went down. confused I'm sure, however, that if you asked around you'd find some sort of answer... question 5) can anyone show me a good rp battle of MS/MA? ~by Barsona question 6) a.) Can a coordinator be a newtype? b.) Can a Newtype have SEED? To my belief: a.) Is no, b/c Newtype comes naturally, right? Like in the UC era, Enhanced Humans are near Newtype, but they are not Newtypes. And to some degree, coordinators are enhanced humans (they are engineered from the begining, hence my belief) b.) Is yes, b/c this is a genetic trait found in any person anyone want to clarify my judgement? ~from Barsona NewtypeS3 That sounds about right. I mean, Kira can't be a Newtype because he's already a Coordinator. Aside from that being rediculously overpowering from a writer's pov, there is almost no proof aside from the NT flashes in those few times Kira uses the Dragoons on S-Freedom - and those are the ones enhanced to support people without the 'enhanced spatial awarness' that was needed for the Gunbarrels and Providence. That, and Chaos' Gunpod-things operated under the same system. And, indeed, Fukuda has stated that anyone can 'go Seed' - reguardless of it only showing up in main characters who really matter. It's also a power-up, considering how Kira can summon it at will after a while - much like Goku and his Super Saiyan, or Toguro in Yu Yu Hauksho and his strength. question 7.) ok i have a few questions 1) the "EZ8" ,from 08th ms team, stands for extra zero eight. What does this mean? If this is an "extra" zero where is the first? 2)EZ8 was rebult from scrap parts after Shiro got it close to destroyed. Does anyone know what they used to rebuild it? ~from ph34r3d_1 NewtypeS3 1) So far as I can tell, it's actually for "Extra 08th Team" Unit, or something close to those lines. Shiro's original unit assigned to the 08th Team was, of course, demolished. Rebuilding it differently would make it a different unit - hence the 'Extra-08th' kinda thing. 2) GM Parts, pretty much. Those spare parts from the Gundam Project had been used up long ago, and considering Karen's Gundam's replacment head was a GM Head, I'd say it was a load of GM parts - Ground or otherwise. question 8.) ok, another UC to CE question: So almost all MS in CE era are "Battery" operated, correct? As well, these MS's ammo are not unlimited (meaning they have to reload). Now to the Nuetron Jammer equipped MS, such as Freedom, Justice, Strike Freedom, Infinite Justice, Providence, Legend, Destiny, Akatsuki, and others. It seems to me, that there ammo is unlimited (when I guess coming to beam weaponry) b/c they have a nuclear core reactor, correct? So here is the thing that strikes me. All UC era MS are powered by a nuclear reactor (or that was to my belief). And even if that is not so, they are in the future MS. But there beam weapon ammo is not unlimited. Why are the UC nuclear core run MS have unlimited ammo, and the UC nuclear core run MS have limited ammo?? ~from Barsona fun to know facts: Part 1; CE navigation Barsona "Distance 500, Orange 14 Mark". Do you understand this? Well, I been looking at some extra goodies around some of the Gundam SEED sites (thx to the fact that I can read Japanese...) and I actually found out what they are talking about. If you are in a ship/MS/MA you have basically six sense of direction (respectively because your in space and there is no floor in space) Top Bottom Front Back Left Right Each direction is color coded Top: Indigo Bottom: Red Front: Green Back: Blue Left: Yellow Right: Orange Now you have the sense of direction, you also need a placement. Think of each direction expands into a pyramid that divides into four equal sections. 1 2 5 3 4 (Imagine these numbers are the four equal section of the pyramid base) 1=Alpha 2=Bravo 3=Charlie 4=Delta 5=Zero Center Combined those two material with the distance So in translation: "Distance 500, Orange 14 Mark" Distance 500 (probably meter???) to the right (have no clue what the mark 14 means). This may be incomplete, and I will add more once I get more info. But for now, that is the basics for a CIC (hopefully you didn't know this... or I look like a noob... crying )
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:45 am
As overpowered as the GP03 is, by the time the psycoframe was in common use, the GP03 had been far eclipsed in almost every category of technology, it would be but a decade old relic in a world full of newtype weapons. The alpha Azeriu has nearly twice the acceleration and a variety of newtype style weapons stock, which it was of course designed to carry, as opposed to some afterthought addition. Old armor, old engines, old weapon systems, extremely outdated core MS... I suppose the I-field would be handy, but with the ever increasing power of beam weapons, it would be less and less able to stand the strain(I presume that I-fields do take a strain upon blocking/absorbing a beam shot, if expressed as heat or just strain on the mechanics of the generator itself. Plus, the GP03's I-field generator, while massive, is also very unprotected, and almost all CCA era MS carried at least one type of missile weapon, which would be able to pass through an I-field as if it were nonexistant.). Naturally the ideal would be to have it equipped with a battleship class beam shield of victory era with the generators in a ring around the beam cannon. You know, like a beam spewing umbrella of doom. Funnels would also be ideal in this situation, as the pilot could attack with his cannon and funnels/bits at long range, in the relative safety of his very own beam shield. (I love that screencap) And while we're at it, we may as well give it beam flag generators, because you know, it might have to lead troops or something. I suppose if more than one prototype GP03 unit had been constructed, the EF would have refit it ala Salamis(kai) and used it forever and ever and ever(and the various GM refits, of course)... So is it feasible? Likely. Would it be more worthwhile than just building a newer and more efficient unit? I really doubt it. The GP03 design was just a money sink anyways and refitting it would take excessive amounts of time and cost of development. On the other hand, funnels would fix the deficiency of it having to come back to resupply every few minutes, always a plus. Also, why would you get a headache after using it? Certainly this was characteristic of certain(inherently flawed) mobile weapons(psycho and psycho II spring to mind), but as a whole newtype systems don't seem to put a massive amount of strain on the pilot.
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:59 am
well, recalling from Char's Counterattack, when Quess was training to use the funnel, aftwords, Char did ask if her head ached, and she said a little. I guess over time, you get used to controlling two/three of them, but I was thinking of like more than 10+ funnels all at once, or possibly even more. I mean, do you think it is possible for any NT to control that many of them?
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:00 pm
Question 2:
it has come to me, when watching Z-Gundam, that all the movile suit, when reentering Earth, needed some kind of heat shield. Then I remembered, in SEED, and in SEED Destiny, pilots, just used their shield to come back (in some cases, they just went head on). Why is there such a gap? Are the UC era MS, have weak armor compared to
1.) Strike Gundam
2.) Freedom Gundam
3.) Justice Gundam
4.) Zaku Warrior
5.) Force Impulse Gundam
6.) Savior Gundam
7.) Strike Freedom
8.) Infinite Justice
(these are the MS in CE that I remember coming into the atmosphere without any heat shield)
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:26 am
The RX-78 reportedly reentered with just the standard material shield. Amuro was in better shape than Kira was, too.
Of course, he read the book to see how to do that(Kira of course, didn't think to look for a game guide under the seat).
But anyways, in CE things work less how they should and more how the plot writers think will work towards getting themselves more money/ratings.
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:24 pm
Throwing some stuff in here, for the sake of organization. Basically, anything of importance that I believe is useful, but does not warrant a full thread. NowhereManXP Barsona One day, while walking around my campus, I was thinking of how to make my custom model (hopefully, I can make it, take a pic of it, and show it here). it was going to be an NT class MS with funnels (b/c I just love the noise they make, and literally, they are a small bundle of joy and pwnage). But I was thinking, since this was a model from CE, why not make it a Dragoon system. cool name too (also reminds me of star craft). Then it hits, HOW THE ******** DO THEY WORK??? I mean, for a funnel, it was controlled by the brainwave of the operator, using some kind of psychomu, and stick a energy packet on it for shooting and propulsion, and wallah! a funnel, but what about the Dragoon system? Is it like the income mechanics of scanning the operators brain? How exactly the pilot controls a DRAGOON System is a little ambiguous. As of CE 71, it takes someone with "extraordinary spacial awareness" (like Mu la Flaga, Rau Le Creuset, Courtney Hieronymous, Morgan Chevalier, Prayer Reverie, etc.) to control remote weapons. In CE 73 this requirement no longer exists, as advancements in the technology allow basically anybody to control remote weapons to some degree of effectiveness. How exactly the DRAGOON System itself directs its remote weapons is also mysterious. It uses something called "quantum communication" to control its weapons pods, although what "quantum communication" is isn't really expounded upon. Many will tell you that "quantum communication" is made possible using Mirage Colloid Systerm technology, although this doesn't seem to be (entirely) the case. As of CE 73, all Mirage Colloid System technology has been banned by the Junius Treaty, and the weapon pods of the ZGMS-X24S Chaos therefore don't utilize such equipment and still seem to operate just fine. Basically, we're at "square one" with how the DRAGOON System works. Barsona Do you understand this? Well, I been looking at some extra goodies around some of the Gundam SEED sites (thx to the fact that I can read Japanese...) and I actually found out what they are talking about. If you are in a ship/MS/MA you have basically six sense of direction (respectively because your in space and there is no floor in space) Top Bottom Front Back Left Right Each direction is color coded Top: Indigo Bottom: Red Front: Green Back: Blue Left: Yellow Right: Orange Now you have the sense of direction, you also need a placement. Think of each direction expands into a pyramid that divides into four equal sections. 1 2 5 3 4 (Imagine these numbers are the four equal section of the pyramid base) 1=Alpha 2=Bravo 3=Charlie 4=Delta 5=Zero Center Combined those two material with the distance So in translation: "Distance 500, Orange 14 Mark" Distance 500 (probably meter???) to the right (have no clue what the mark 14 means). This may be incomplete, and I will add more once I get more info. But for now, that is the basics for a CIC (hopefully you didn't know this... or I look like a noob... crying )
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:37 pm
Stray Bullet Shani Throwing some stuff in here, for the sake of organization. NowhereManXP Barsona One day, while walking around my campus, I was thinking of how to make my custom model (hopefully, I can make it, take a pic of it, and show it here). it was going to be an NT class MS with funnels (b/c I just love the noise they make, and literally, they are a small bundle of joy and pwnage). But I was thinking, since this was a model from CE, why not make it a Dragoon system. cool name too (also reminds me of star craft). Then it hits, HOW THE ******** DO THEY WORK??? I mean, for a funnel, it was controlled by the brainwave of the operator, using some kind of psychomu, and stick a energy packet on it for shooting and propulsion, and wallah! a funnel, but what about the Dragoon system? Is it like the income mechanics of scanning the operators brain? How exactly the pilot controls a DRAGOON System is a little ambiguous. As of CE 71, it takes someone with "extraordinary spacial awareness" (like Mu la Flaga, Rau Le Creuset, Courtney Hieronymous, Morgan Chevalier, Prayer Reverie, etc.) to control remote weapons. In CE 73 this requirement no longer exists, as advancements in the technology allow basically anybody to control remote weapons to some degree of effectiveness. How exactly the DRAGOON System itself directs its remote weapons is also mysterious. It uses something called "quantum communication" to control its weapons pods, although what "quantum communication" is isn't really expounded upon. Many will tell you that "quantum communication" is made possible using Mirage Colloid Systerm technology, although this doesn't seem to be (entirely) the case. As of CE 73, all Mirage Colloid System technology has been banned by the Junius Treaty, and the weapon pods of the ZGMS-X24S Chaos therefore don't utilize such equipment and still seem to operate just fine. Basically, we're at "square one" with how the DRAGOON System works. The problem with the theory outlined there is everybody sort of ******** the treaty in the a**. Neutron Jammers and Neutron Jammer Cancellers were also banned in the treaty. Yet both sides produced prototypes of this nature (EA's N Dagger N and ZAFT's Prototype ZAKU) So it is possible Chaos and Protochaos DO use mirage colloid system communication signals on their pods.
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:15 pm
oh s**t..., my old stuff, graci!
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:45 pm
question:
Are there any torrents you can suggest where you can watch Gundam Episodes? Specifically old series that are in Japanese?
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:52 am
Barsona question: Are there any torrents you can suggest where you can watch Gundam Episodes? Specifically old series that are in Japanese? it usually is against Gaian rules to ask this but I would suggest searching animesuki as well as animeyume
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:01 am
Sorceress Lixing Barsona question: Are there any torrents you can suggest where you can watch Gundam Episodes? Specifically old series that are in Japanese? it usually is against Gaian rules to ask this but I would suggest searching animesuki as well as animeyume b/c it's copy right?
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:05 am
Ophiuchus Stray Bullet Shani Throwing some stuff in here, for the sake of organization. NowhereManXP Barsona One day, while walking around my campus, I was thinking of how to make my custom model (hopefully, I can make it, take a pic of it, and show it here). it was going to be an NT class MS with funnels (b/c I just love the noise they make, and literally, they are a small bundle of joy and pwnage). But I was thinking, since this was a model from CE, why not make it a Dragoon system. cool name too (also reminds me of star craft). Then it hits, HOW THE ******** DO THEY WORK??? I mean, for a funnel, it was controlled by the brainwave of the operator, using some kind of psychomu, and stick a energy packet on it for shooting and propulsion, and wallah! a funnel, but what about the Dragoon system? Is it like the income mechanics of scanning the operators brain? How exactly the pilot controls a DRAGOON System is a little ambiguous. As of CE 71, it takes someone with "extraordinary spacial awareness" (like Mu la Flaga, Rau Le Creuset, Courtney Hieronymous, Morgan Chevalier, Prayer Reverie, etc.) to control remote weapons. In CE 73 this requirement no longer exists, as advancements in the technology allow basically anybody to control remote weapons to some degree of effectiveness. How exactly the DRAGOON System itself directs its remote weapons is also mysterious. It uses something called "quantum communication" to control its weapons pods, although what "quantum communication" is isn't really expounded upon. Many will tell you that "quantum communication" is made possible using Mirage Colloid Systerm technology, although this doesn't seem to be (entirely) the case. As of CE 73, all Mirage Colloid System technology has been banned by the Junius Treaty, and the weapon pods of the ZGMS-X24S Chaos therefore don't utilize such equipment and still seem to operate just fine. Basically, we're at "square one" with how the DRAGOON System works. The problem with the theory outlined there is everybody sort of ******** the treaty in the a**. Neutron Jammers and Neutron Jammer Cancellers were also banned in the treaty. Yet both sides produced prototypes of this nature (EA's N Dagger N and ZAFT's Prototype ZAKU) So it is possible Chaos and Protochaos DO use mirage colloid system communication signals on their pods. Not so. ZAFT actually intended to comply with the Junius Treaty, which actually threw a wrench into some of their technology. For instance, because Mirage Colloid technology was outlawed by the Junius Treaty, ZAFT had to redesign its Beam Sabers so that they were compliant with the Treaty. This was also true for the DRAGOON System. As for the non-compliant Mobile Suits... The GAT-SO2R N Dagger N and ZGMF-X999A ZAKU Mass Production Trial Type were actually created before the signing of the Junius Treaty. We first see the Trial Type ZAKU during the South American War for Independence, in December of CE 71. The Junius Treaty was not signed until March 10, CE 72. Following the signing of the Treaty, ZAFT redesigned its Mobile Suits so that they'd be Treaty-compliant. The GAT-SO2R N Dagger N was in its development stages when the Junius Treaty was signed. Upon the activation of the Treaty, the Earth Alliance officially discarded this design... though they continued it as a "Black Ops" project. Another victim of the Junius Treaty was the original ZGMF-XX09T DOM Trooper, which was meant to utilize Mirage Colloid. However, when the Treaty was signed, that feature was scrapped.
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:25 am
WHat about Legend and Destiny's power sources?
They're a superior type of battery, due to the ability to power all that beamy s**t, but they aren't nuclear powered, as they have a power guage.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:14 pm
question 5)
can anyone show me a good rp battle of MS/MA?
((gee, am I the only retard asking questions...sad...feel like a noob))
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