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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:12 pm
I get this question posed to me a lot, so I figured I'd try to cover it here.
"How do I convince my parents to let me get pierced/tattooed/stretch my ears?"
There are a lot of variables to this question, and every parent is different, as well as every desiring piercee/tattooee. But here are some basic techniques you could try.
Here are some of the common things parents say.
1) "You're not old enough." This one is pretty self-explanatory. In the US, the average age to get anything other than lobes pierced is 16, and you must have parental consent. It's pretty much universal that you cannot be tattooed until you are 18, regardless of parental consent. At 18, you're a legal adult and can do whatever you want.
Some shops will not pierce your face if you're under 18, even with parental consent, so this restricts your piercing options to various ear piercings, and possibly the navel. You CANNOT get nipples, genitals, or any surface piercings until you are 18, on average. These rules vary shop by shop, and sometimes state by state, so do your research, call around, and know your stuff.
2) "You're not responsible enough." This one falls entirely on YOU. What have you done to prove to your parents that you're ready for this? Do you do as you're told/asked? When your mom tells you to clean the cat box or take out the trash, do you do it right away, or do you fight tooth and nail? Start to prove to your parents that you can take on responsibility and that will always work in your favor. Get good grades, be home before curfew, be respectful to your parents and siblings, that sort of thing.
3) "They're unsafe." Education is always awesome. Many Baby Boomer-age parents still believe that tongue piercings WILL make your face go numb/paralyzed, some believe that you'll lose your sense of taste, some believe that certain ear piercings will make you go deaf. Some parents even believe that chest/breast tattoos make you unable to breast feed in the future. Do your research, SHOW them reputable websites that prove it's untrue, talk to doctors, show them ANATOMY pictures that show there are no major nerves or veins in the area that could cause such side effects. These worries are all old wives tales, perpetuated by people who have no respect or understanding for this art form.
Many also only visualize tattoo and piercing parlors as dirty, drug infested, houses of horror that only bikers, felons, and crack addicts frequent. This is very much NOT true anymore. A good piercing shop will be as clean as a doctor's office, since they use some of the same equipment as doctors. Go in on your own someday and talk to the piercer about their sterilization practices, see if they have any brochures or pamphlets you could take home that explain how they keep things clean. If you can convince your parents to go with you, have THEM talk directly to the piercer about how to keep the piercing clean, how clean they keep the area and their tools. Have the piercer show their autoclave spore test records.
4) "They're unclean/It'll get infected." Infection is 99% wearer error, NOT piercer error. Make sure they know this, and that if anything goes wrong it will be because YOU screwed up taking care of it, not because of anything the piercer did, and it's not the fault of the piercing itself. This also goes back to the "You're not responsible enough" excuse. If you can prove to your parents that you can properly take care of this piercing, that will also show them that you've done your research, you know what to do and can take care of it. Explain why alcohol isn't appropriate to clean with, why Peroxide is inappropriate to clean with as well. Explain that many of the piercing metals used are implant grade, meaning they're the same quality of metal used in hip replacements, broken leg plates and screws, etc. If they're safe enough to be implanted against bone and replace joints, they're safe enough to go through your lip.
Also, KNOW THE DIFFERENCE between infection and irritation. Many people still believe that any fluid secretion and any redness is automatically infection, and that's very much not true. This goes back to doing your research and being responsible enough to take care of it.
Many tattoo inks are organic and even vegan, so there are no hazardous, cancer causing chemicals in them. It is true that some people can be allergic to red inks and white inks, but in that case that's an allergic reaction, not an infection or the cause of the ink itself. It usually just means you have sensitive skin and can try using another mix or brand of ink, since not all brands and mixes are the same. Again, it's not the fault of you, the artist or the tattoo itself, it just means you're unlucky.
5) "You won't be able to get a job." This is also pretty much untrue. You can take out a piercing if you want, and usually just be left with a small scar that resembles an acne scar. If that happens, a swish of makeup and it's gone. You can also get over the counter scar treatment creams and oils to minimize scarring once it's healed over completely. BioOil is a good one.
You can also wear clear plastic or glass retainers in facial piercings, that can sometimes make them nearly invisible to the eye. Their function is to hold your piercing open while remaining as unobtrusive as possible. It won't hide it completely, like it was never there, but it can minimize the piercing very much and many employers will compromise that if you wear clear retainers, you can have the piercing. So long as you keep them to a minimum.
Tattoos cannot be removed, this is true. Other than extremely expensive laser surgery that can cost several times more than the tattoo originally did, they are to be considered permanent. Tell your parents you're not going to tattoo your face, your throat, or any other extremely obvious place. This goes back to responsibility. Make sure they know that the artwork you want tattooed is classy, pretty, appropriate, etc. You're not going to get naked zombie chicks humping flaming devil skulls tattooed on your throat.
Also, many companies carry tattoo coverup makeup, Dermablend being one and even Makeup Forever (available at Sephora) carried something once that was touted as a movie-quality coverup makeup. Also, there is a company called TatJacket that makes individual sleeves you can use to cover tattoos in the workplace. www.tatjacket.com is their website. I have a pair of these, and they're pretty darn awesome.
Employeers are becoming slowly more and more accepting of body mods. Many food industry jobs allow you to have a nostril stud (not ring) on the job, some allow visible tattoos so long as they're not offensive (naked chicks and devil skulls, remember?) and if you get the tattoo in an area covered by regular clothes anyway, who's ever going to know?
6) "You'll regret it when you're old/when you're 80. It'll sag and be ugly when you're old." My favorite response to this is: "I'll be old/I'll be 80. I WON'T CARE what I look like at that point." Make sure you get something you won't regret. Get something that means something to you, even if you just want it because you like the artwork and want to be a walking canvas. Tattoos don't need some long drawn out elaborate meaning behind them. So long as YOU like it, it doesn't matter.
7) For stretched ears, many will say "It's irreversible/gross/unclean/unhealthy/a lot of what's already been covered." This is a little bit different. Stretching should be considered a permanent modification, because once you hit a certain size (which is different for everyone, but is usually around 2ga) it's very unlikely that you'll shrink back down to a "normal" size, or as if you were never pierced at all.
You CAN reverse ear stretching, in several ways. One, you don't stretch too large. Again, the general agreement is that 2ga is the "point of no return". Some can go back down, some can't. There's really no way to tell, so don't stretch that far unless you are SURE that you don't ever want to go back. If you do want to stretch beyond that then decide later that you don't want large stretched lobes anymore, many body mod artists can sew your lobes back together, and make them look sometimes as if nothing ever happened. This is usually for extremely large stretched ears, we're talking maybe an inch or more, and wouldn't really be viable for someone at a 0ga or 7/16ths.
A common misconception is that stretched lobes smell. Your parents may or may not know this, but if they do, again, EDUCATION. They only smell if you don't shower, bathe, clean your body, etc. There is no reason your lobes should smell if you practice simple, basic hygiene. Wearing organic materials (horn, bone, wood, stone, etc.) can also minimize any smell that may arise. Sometimes people who wear metal or acrylic notice more of a smell, no matter how clean they keep them. They're just one of those unlucky people, is all.
Also, wear tasteful jewelry. Show your parents how beautiful stretched lobes can be. Wear stone flowers, black horn wings, pretty white bone spirals. If all you wear are gigantic tunnels or acrylic plugs with rotting eyeballs in them, then yeah, they probably won't like that.
8 ) Now, what if you do all this and your parents still say no? That means you WAIT until you are 18, are out from under their roof, and can go get it done yourself, under your own power, with your own money. You are an adult at 18 in the eyes of the law, and they can't stop you. Because they say no, that DOES NOT mean you do it yourself, get your friends to do it, go to a sub-standard shop and get it done underage anyway. This is one of the WORST things you can do, because it just proves to your parents that you really WEREN'T mature/responsible enough to do it because you went behind their backs, lied to them, and did something they told you not to. You are basically owned by your parents until you are 18, according to the law, so if they say no, that means no. By doing it yourself or having a substandard shop do it, you're proving that you don't respect the art, you don't respect yourself, and you don't care enough to do it the right way. You'll REALLY never convince them later on if you do it yourself.
In the end, education is key. Education is magical, it shows you know what you're doing, what your motivation is, that you're ready to do this because you understand the risks and possible dangers behind it. It shows your love for it, that you're willing to spend time and energy researching and learning about it before you do it. It shows that you respect your body and this art form and your parents by asking their permission, providing an educated and informed counter-argument, and are willing to work for what you want.
I think that about covers the main reasons.
Any questions, comments, concerns, want to add more excuses parents use, go for it.
BEGIN THE DISCUSSION!!!
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:51 am
Some parents are just against it. When my mom saw that I'd gotten helix piercings, she kinda flipped out on me. Ditto for my lip piercing. I'm 22 and living on my own, though, so my mom doesn't have much say in what I do to my own body. (Even though I'm going to post pics of my next tattoo on facebook and am dreading the angry phone call from her. razz ) If I were still living with my parents, it would be a different story. Their house, their rules and all that.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:53 am
Dark Arashi Some parents are just against it. When my mom saw that I'd gotten helix piercings, she kinda flipped out on me. Ditto for my lip piercing. I'm 22 and living on my own, though, so my mom doesn't have much say in what I do to my own body. (Even though I'm going to post pics of my next tattoo on facebook and am dreading the angry phone call from her. razz ) If I were still living with my parents, it would be a different story. Their house, their rules and all that. That's what point 8 addresses. If they're still against it at the end of trying everything else, then they're never going to say yes.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:36 am
Jagger-Wolf That's what point 8 addresses. If they're still against it at the end of trying everything else, then they're never going to say yes. I know, I was merely agreeing and stating my own personal experience.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:01 pm
Is it totally sad that I'm 26, have been living on my own for several years now (around 8 if you include college years), and yet I still cringe at what my parents will say when I get around to getting my stretched labret. I mean, facial piercings are bad enough with them (i have none, but am considering double-nostril first), but a STRETCHED facial piercing? Consider me disowned and out of the wills. And I probably wouldn't get to come home for Christmas. *le sulk*
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:11 pm
IN VEGAS Is it totally sad that I'm 26, have been living on my own for several years now (around 8 if you include college years), and yet I still cringe at what my parents will say when I get around to getting my stretched labret. I mean, facial piercings are bad enough with them (i have none, but am considering double-nostril first), but a STRETCHED facial piercing? Consider me disowned and out of the wills. And I probably wouldn't get to come home for Christmas. *le sulk* I keep finding myself more and more lucky that the vast majority of my family doesn't care about my mods, at all. Or at least not that they've ever said to my face. They're more concerned with my cousin and her choices in body mods. rolleyes It's too bad you have to feel that way, and too bad that your family makes you feel that way. Family should love you no matter what, and if something as superficial as a facial piercing, no matter how large it is, is enough to make them disown you, then that's really sad. Do they not care who you are, what you do, how you treat people? Or is it all about how you LOOK, or present yourself to the world? I just find families like that sad. I guess the best you could do is just explain that these things do not change who you are as a person. They don't negate any education you may have, then don't change your morals or values, they don't turn you from a once good person into a bad person. It just means you've had a piece of metal implanted in your face. Big deal.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:16 pm
Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Is it totally sad that I'm 26, have been living on my own for several years now (around 8 if you include college years), and yet I still cringe at what my parents will say when I get around to getting my stretched labret. I mean, facial piercings are bad enough with them (i have none, but am considering double-nostril first), but a STRETCHED facial piercing? Consider me disowned and out of the wills. And I probably wouldn't get to come home for Christmas. *le sulk* I keep finding myself more and more lucky that the vast majority of my family doesn't care about my mods, at all. Or at least not that they've ever said to my face. They're more concerned with my cousin and her choices in body mods. rolleyes It's too bad you have to feel that way, and too bad that your family makes you feel that way. Family should love you no matter what, and if something as superficial as a facial piercing, no matter how large it is, is enough to make them disown you, then that's really sad. Do they not care who you are, what you do, how you treat people? Or is it all about how you LOOK, or present yourself to the world? I just find families like that sad. I guess the best you could do is just explain that these things do not change who you are as a person. They don't negate any education you may have, then don't change your morals or values, they don't turn you from a once good person into a bad person. It just means you've had a piece of metal implanted in your face. Big deal.
Well, they're used to my 5/8" lobes and my tattoos. They don't flinch anymore when I talk about tattooing. Hell, they even know I want to get into tattooing. But they don't know about the want for a stretched labret (seriously, oval labrets are hot as hell), and I fear it'd be the one thing they couldn't handle. My dad still makes "looks like a freak" comments to stuff on TV, but he'd never say that to me. It'd still give them a heart attack. They fear I wont' get a good job, that my medical assistant certificate will go to s**t (they don't say anything about me graduating with a BFA in the spring though lol), blah blah i'll always be in retail. Hmph.
I love my family, and I know they love me. But sometimes i just wanna... ugh. Also, I'm the oldest, so i get to be the learning platform for them. My sisters get it easy - granted they're not modded at all, but I bet if they did get something done, Mom and Dad would consider it old hat because of dealing with me.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:29 pm
IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Is it totally sad that I'm 26, have been living on my own for several years now (around 8 if you include college years), and yet I still cringe at what my parents will say when I get around to getting my stretched labret. I mean, facial piercings are bad enough with them (i have none, but am considering double-nostril first), but a STRETCHED facial piercing? Consider me disowned and out of the wills. And I probably wouldn't get to come home for Christmas. *le sulk* I keep finding myself more and more lucky that the vast majority of my family doesn't care about my mods, at all. Or at least not that they've ever said to my face. They're more concerned with my cousin and her choices in body mods. rolleyes It's too bad you have to feel that way, and too bad that your family makes you feel that way. Family should love you no matter what, and if something as superficial as a facial piercing, no matter how large it is, is enough to make them disown you, then that's really sad. Do they not care who you are, what you do, how you treat people? Or is it all about how you LOOK, or present yourself to the world? I just find families like that sad. I guess the best you could do is just explain that these things do not change who you are as a person. They don't negate any education you may have, then don't change your morals or values, they don't turn you from a once good person into a bad person. It just means you've had a piece of metal implanted in your face. Big deal.
Well, they're used to my 5/8" lobes and my tattoos. They don't flinch anymore when I talk about tattooing. Hell, they even know I want to get into tattooing. But they don't know about the want for a stretched labret (seriously, oval labrets are hot as hell), and I fear it'd be the one thing they couldn't handle. My dad still makes "looks like a freak" comments to stuff on TV, but he'd never say that to me. It'd still give them a heart attack. They fear I wont' get a good job, that my medical assistant certificate will go to s**t (they don't say anything about me graduating with a BFA in the spring though lol), blah blah i'll always be in retail. Hmph.
I love my family, and I know they love me. But sometimes i just wanna... ugh. Also, I'm the oldest, so i get to be the learning platform for them. My sisters get it easy - granted they're not modded at all, but I bet if they did get something done, Mom and Dad would consider it old hat because of dealing with me.I find that quite distressing, your dad calling those who are essentially your people freaks, but he'd never say it to you. The body mod community is your people, your group. It's the same as if he used racial slurs against people on TV, but would never say those slurs to your boyfriend/girlfriend of the race he just insulted. It's fine to not like something, but you do still have to respect it for what it is. My cousin was the first among us 6 grandkids to get tattooed, her older brother second, then myself. I'm 3rd oldest of the 6, she's 4th. But she's gone MUCH further with her tattoos than anyone ever expected, much to their chagrin. Her tattoos are beautiful, well done and professional and all that. But I think they disapprove of her placements, and a bit of subject matter. But she doesn't care, her job as a welder could care less, and it's never held her back from doing anything, as far as I know. My dad doesn't exactly approve of my mods, but he doesn't hate them either. It's something that's never brought up unless I do it first. He has, however, been wanting me to draw him up a tattoo concept, so I think I might have to start doing some sketches. ^_^ He's never expressed any desire to hold me back from my mod adventures, but for one or two things. He refuses to let me get my tongue pierced in his presence (when I visit him I stay at his place, so while I'm visiting I can't get it done, is what that means), and he just wants me to be responsible in my tattooing. Don't tattoo "c** DUMPSTER" or something stupid on my forehead, or tattoo my face at all. Make sure my tattoos are well done, good subject matter, in places easily hidden if need be, that sort of thing. He's the only one in my family whose opinion truly, deeply matters to me. If I ever did anything that made him not proud to be seen with me, I would absolutely die. My mom's opinion has never really been an issue (she hasn't been involved in my life enough for her opinion to really hold any sway, and I think she knows that), her concerns are pretty much the same as my dad's. My sister is kinda freaked out by the whole thing, the permanency of tattoos scares her, and the idea of piercing needles makes her a little faint (but she has agreed to take my niece to my FAVORITE tattoo and piercing shop as soon as she asks for her ears pierced, yay!). So all in all, I've been extremely lucky on the family front as far as mods are concerned.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:18 pm
Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Is it totally sad that I'm 26, have been living on my own for several years now (around 8 if you include college years), and yet I still cringe at what my parents will say when I get around to getting my stretched labret. I mean, facial piercings are bad enough with them (i have none, but am considering double-nostril first), but a STRETCHED facial piercing? Consider me disowned and out of the wills. And I probably wouldn't get to come home for Christmas. *le sulk* I keep finding myself more and more lucky that the vast majority of my family doesn't care about my mods, at all. Or at least not that they've ever said to my face. They're more concerned with my cousin and her choices in body mods. rolleyes It's too bad you have to feel that way, and too bad that your family makes you feel that way. Family should love you no matter what, and if something as superficial as a facial piercing, no matter how large it is, is enough to make them disown you, then that's really sad. Do they not care who you are, what you do, how you treat people? Or is it all about how you LOOK, or present yourself to the world? I just find families like that sad. I guess the best you could do is just explain that these things do not change who you are as a person. They don't negate any education you may have, then don't change your morals or values, they don't turn you from a once good person into a bad person. It just means you've had a piece of metal implanted in your face. Big deal.
Well, they're used to my 5/8" lobes and my tattoos. They don't flinch anymore when I talk about tattooing. Hell, they even know I want to get into tattooing. But they don't know about the want for a stretched labret (seriously, oval labrets are hot as hell), and I fear it'd be the one thing they couldn't handle. My dad still makes "looks like a freak" comments to stuff on TV, but he'd never say that to me. It'd still give them a heart attack. They fear I wont' get a good job, that my medical assistant certificate will go to s**t (they don't say anything about me graduating with a BFA in the spring though lol), blah blah i'll always be in retail. Hmph.
I love my family, and I know they love me. But sometimes i just wanna... ugh. Also, I'm the oldest, so i get to be the learning platform for them. My sisters get it easy - granted they're not modded at all, but I bet if they did get something done, Mom and Dad would consider it old hat because of dealing with me.I find that quite distressing, your dad calling those who are essentially your people freaks, but he'd never say it to you. The body mod community is your people, your group. It's the same as if he used racial slurs against people on TV, but would never say those slurs to your boyfriend/girlfriend of the race he just insulted. It's fine to not like something, but you do still have to respect it for what it is. My cousin was the first among us 6 grandkids to get tattooed, her older brother second, then myself. I'm 3rd oldest of the 6, she's 4th. But she's gone MUCH further with her tattoos than anyone ever expected, much to their chagrin. Her tattoos are beautiful, well done and professional and all that. But I think they disapprove of her placements, and a bit of subject matter. But she doesn't care, her job as a welder could care less, and it's never held her back from doing anything, as far as I know. My dad doesn't exactly approve of my mods, but he doesn't hate them either. It's something that's never brought up unless I do it first. He has, however, been wanting me to draw him up a tattoo concept, so I think I might have to start doing some sketches. ^_^ He's never expressed any desire to hold me back from my mod adventures, but for one or two things. He refuses to let me get my tongue pierced in his presence (when I visit him I stay at his place, so while I'm visiting I can't get it done, is what that means), and he just wants me to be responsible in my tattooing. Don't tattoo "c** DUMPSTER" or something stupid on my forehead, or tattoo my face at all. Make sure my tattoos are well done, good subject matter, in places easily hidden if need be, that sort of thing. He's the only one in my family whose opinion truly, deeply matters to me. If I ever did anything that made him not proud to be seen with me, I would absolutely die. My mom's opinion has never really been an issue (she hasn't been involved in my life enough for her opinion to really hold any sway, and I think she knows that), her concerns are pretty much the same as my dad's. My sister is kinda freaked out by the whole thing, the permanency of tattoos scares her, and the idea of piercing needles makes her a little faint (but she has agreed to take my niece to my FAVORITE tattoo and piercing shop as soon as she asks for her ears pierced, yay!). So all in all, I've been extremely lucky on the family front as far as mods are concerned.
Hah, my sisters love all my stuff so far. It's my parents that are weirded out by it. And yeah, my dad's old fashioned. I don't like it, but I still love him. I know my dad would still love me no matter what I did, but i still have that little fear in the back of my mind of doing something that would make him not anymore (i know that's impossible, and he's said so, but still).
I love my mom too, but she's always been kinda blase about my mods, so it's not as big of an issue.
It makes me laugh though, on one hand. They're okay with tattoos, which are permanent, but dead set against piercings, which are not really permanent. Go figure.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:24 pm
IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Is it totally sad that I'm 26, have been living on my own for several years now (around 8 if you include college years), and yet I still cringe at what my parents will say when I get around to getting my stretched labret. I mean, facial piercings are bad enough with them (i have none, but am considering double-nostril first), but a STRETCHED facial piercing? Consider me disowned and out of the wills. And I probably wouldn't get to come home for Christmas. *le sulk* I keep finding myself more and more lucky that the vast majority of my family doesn't care about my mods, at all. Or at least not that they've ever said to my face. They're more concerned with my cousin and her choices in body mods. rolleyes It's too bad you have to feel that way, and too bad that your family makes you feel that way. Family should love you no matter what, and if something as superficial as a facial piercing, no matter how large it is, is enough to make them disown you, then that's really sad. Do they not care who you are, what you do, how you treat people? Or is it all about how you LOOK, or present yourself to the world? I just find families like that sad. I guess the best you could do is just explain that these things do not change who you are as a person. They don't negate any education you may have, then don't change your morals or values, they don't turn you from a once good person into a bad person. It just means you've had a piece of metal implanted in your face. Big deal.
Well, they're used to my 5/8" lobes and my tattoos. They don't flinch anymore when I talk about tattooing. Hell, they even know I want to get into tattooing. But they don't know about the want for a stretched labret (seriously, oval labrets are hot as hell), and I fear it'd be the one thing they couldn't handle. My dad still makes "looks like a freak" comments to stuff on TV, but he'd never say that to me. It'd still give them a heart attack. They fear I wont' get a good job, that my medical assistant certificate will go to s**t (they don't say anything about me graduating with a BFA in the spring though lol), blah blah i'll always be in retail. Hmph.
I love my family, and I know they love me. But sometimes i just wanna... ugh. Also, I'm the oldest, so i get to be the learning platform for them. My sisters get it easy - granted they're not modded at all, but I bet if they did get something done, Mom and Dad would consider it old hat because of dealing with me.I find that quite distressing, your dad calling those who are essentially your people freaks, but he'd never say it to you. The body mod community is your people, your group. It's the same as if he used racial slurs against people on TV, but would never say those slurs to your boyfriend/girlfriend of the race he just insulted. It's fine to not like something, but you do still have to respect it for what it is. My cousin was the first among us 6 grandkids to get tattooed, her older brother second, then myself. I'm 3rd oldest of the 6, she's 4th. But she's gone MUCH further with her tattoos than anyone ever expected, much to their chagrin. Her tattoos are beautiful, well done and professional and all that. But I think they disapprove of her placements, and a bit of subject matter. But she doesn't care, her job as a welder could care less, and it's never held her back from doing anything, as far as I know. My dad doesn't exactly approve of my mods, but he doesn't hate them either. It's something that's never brought up unless I do it first. He has, however, been wanting me to draw him up a tattoo concept, so I think I might have to start doing some sketches. ^_^ He's never expressed any desire to hold me back from my mod adventures, but for one or two things. He refuses to let me get my tongue pierced in his presence (when I visit him I stay at his place, so while I'm visiting I can't get it done, is what that means), and he just wants me to be responsible in my tattooing. Don't tattoo "c** DUMPSTER" or something stupid on my forehead, or tattoo my face at all. Make sure my tattoos are well done, good subject matter, in places easily hidden if need be, that sort of thing. He's the only one in my family whose opinion truly, deeply matters to me. If I ever did anything that made him not proud to be seen with me, I would absolutely die. My mom's opinion has never really been an issue (she hasn't been involved in my life enough for her opinion to really hold any sway, and I think she knows that), her concerns are pretty much the same as my dad's. My sister is kinda freaked out by the whole thing, the permanency of tattoos scares her, and the idea of piercing needles makes her a little faint (but she has agreed to take my niece to my FAVORITE tattoo and piercing shop as soon as she asks for her ears pierced, yay!). So all in all, I've been extremely lucky on the family front as far as mods are concerned.
Hah, my sisters love all my stuff so far. It's my parents that are weirded out by it. And yeah, my dad's old fashioned. I don't like it, but I still love him. I know my dad would still love me no matter what I did, but i still have that little fear in the back of my mind of doing something that would make him not anymore (i know that's impossible, and he's said so, but still).
I love my mom too, but she's always been kinda blase about my mods, so it's not as big of an issue.
It makes me laugh though, on one hand. They're okay with tattoos, which are permanent, but dead set against piercings, which are not really permanent. Go figure.I've always found that strange, parents being more okay with one type of mod than the other, usually piercing and tattoo concerned. I think my dad's a little more freaked out by piercing than tattooing, too. Either way, I think it's always best to at least mention your plans and ideas ahead of time, so there' not quite as much of a shock when they do happen, you know?
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:51 pm
Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Is it totally sad that I'm 26, have been living on my own for several years now (around 8 if you include college years), and yet I still cringe at what my parents will say when I get around to getting my stretched labret. I mean, facial piercings are bad enough with them (i have none, but am considering double-nostril first), but a STRETCHED facial piercing? Consider me disowned and out of the wills. And I probably wouldn't get to come home for Christmas. *le sulk* I keep finding myself more and more lucky that the vast majority of my family doesn't care about my mods, at all. Or at least not that they've ever said to my face. They're more concerned with my cousin and her choices in body mods. rolleyes It's too bad you have to feel that way, and too bad that your family makes you feel that way. Family should love you no matter what, and if something as superficial as a facial piercing, no matter how large it is, is enough to make them disown you, then that's really sad. Do they not care who you are, what you do, how you treat people? Or is it all about how you LOOK, or present yourself to the world? I just find families like that sad. I guess the best you could do is just explain that these things do not change who you are as a person. They don't negate any education you may have, then don't change your morals or values, they don't turn you from a once good person into a bad person. It just means you've had a piece of metal implanted in your face. Big deal.
Well, they're used to my 5/8" lobes and my tattoos. They don't flinch anymore when I talk about tattooing. Hell, they even know I want to get into tattooing. But they don't know about the want for a stretched labret (seriously, oval labrets are hot as hell), and I fear it'd be the one thing they couldn't handle. My dad still makes "looks like a freak" comments to stuff on TV, but he'd never say that to me. It'd still give them a heart attack. They fear I wont' get a good job, that my medical assistant certificate will go to s**t (they don't say anything about me graduating with a BFA in the spring though lol), blah blah i'll always be in retail. Hmph.
I love my family, and I know they love me. But sometimes i just wanna... ugh. Also, I'm the oldest, so i get to be the learning platform for them. My sisters get it easy - granted they're not modded at all, but I bet if they did get something done, Mom and Dad would consider it old hat because of dealing with me.I find that quite distressing, your dad calling those who are essentially your people freaks, but he'd never say it to you. The body mod community is your people, your group. It's the same as if he used racial slurs against people on TV, but would never say those slurs to your boyfriend/girlfriend of the race he just insulted. It's fine to not like something, but you do still have to respect it for what it is. My cousin was the first among us 6 grandkids to get tattooed, her older brother second, then myself. I'm 3rd oldest of the 6, she's 4th. But she's gone MUCH further with her tattoos than anyone ever expected, much to their chagrin. Her tattoos are beautiful, well done and professional and all that. But I think they disapprove of her placements, and a bit of subject matter. But she doesn't care, her job as a welder could care less, and it's never held her back from doing anything, as far as I know. My dad doesn't exactly approve of my mods, but he doesn't hate them either. It's something that's never brought up unless I do it first. He has, however, been wanting me to draw him up a tattoo concept, so I think I might have to start doing some sketches. ^_^ He's never expressed any desire to hold me back from my mod adventures, but for one or two things. He refuses to let me get my tongue pierced in his presence (when I visit him I stay at his place, so while I'm visiting I can't get it done, is what that means), and he just wants me to be responsible in my tattooing. Don't tattoo "c** DUMPSTER" or something stupid on my forehead, or tattoo my face at all. Make sure my tattoos are well done, good subject matter, in places easily hidden if need be, that sort of thing. He's the only one in my family whose opinion truly, deeply matters to me. If I ever did anything that made him not proud to be seen with me, I would absolutely die. My mom's opinion has never really been an issue (she hasn't been involved in my life enough for her opinion to really hold any sway, and I think she knows that), her concerns are pretty much the same as my dad's. My sister is kinda freaked out by the whole thing, the permanency of tattoos scares her, and the idea of piercing needles makes her a little faint (but she has agreed to take my niece to my FAVORITE tattoo and piercing shop as soon as she asks for her ears pierced, yay!). So all in all, I've been extremely lucky on the family front as far as mods are concerned.
Hah, my sisters love all my stuff so far. It's my parents that are weirded out by it. And yeah, my dad's old fashioned. I don't like it, but I still love him. I know my dad would still love me no matter what I did, but i still have that little fear in the back of my mind of doing something that would make him not anymore (i know that's impossible, and he's said so, but still).
I love my mom too, but she's always been kinda blase about my mods, so it's not as big of an issue.
It makes me laugh though, on one hand. They're okay with tattoos, which are permanent, but dead set against piercings, which are not really permanent. Go figure.I've always found that strange, parents being more okay with one type of mod than the other, usually piercing and tattoo concerned. I think my dad's a little more freaked out by piercing than tattooing, too. Either way, I think it's always best to at least mention your plans and ideas ahead of time, so there' not quite as much of a shock when they do happen, you know?
Yeah. I still have some things to think about and decide on (i already know I'm going to Ryan Ouelette - he's the bomb) before i go ahead with it.
Thanks, Lauren. emotion_bigheart
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:58 pm
IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS
Well, they're used to my 5/8" lobes and my tattoos. They don't flinch anymore when I talk about tattooing. Hell, they even know I want to get into tattooing. But they don't know about the want for a stretched labret (seriously, oval labrets are hot as hell), and I fear it'd be the one thing they couldn't handle. My dad still makes "looks like a freak" comments to stuff on TV, but he'd never say that to me. It'd still give them a heart attack. They fear I wont' get a good job, that my medical assistant certificate will go to s**t (they don't say anything about me graduating with a BFA in the spring though lol), blah blah i'll always be in retail. Hmph.
I love my family, and I know they love me. But sometimes i just wanna... ugh. Also, I'm the oldest, so i get to be the learning platform for them. My sisters get it easy - granted they're not modded at all, but I bet if they did get something done, Mom and Dad would consider it old hat because of dealing with me.I find that quite distressing, your dad calling those who are essentially your people freaks, but he'd never say it to you. The body mod community is your people, your group. It's the same as if he used racial slurs against people on TV, but would never say those slurs to your boyfriend/girlfriend of the race he just insulted. It's fine to not like something, but you do still have to respect it for what it is. My cousin was the first among us 6 grandkids to get tattooed, her older brother second, then myself. I'm 3rd oldest of the 6, she's 4th. But she's gone MUCH further with her tattoos than anyone ever expected, much to their chagrin. Her tattoos are beautiful, well done and professional and all that. But I think they disapprove of her placements, and a bit of subject matter. But she doesn't care, her job as a welder could care less, and it's never held her back from doing anything, as far as I know. My dad doesn't exactly approve of my mods, but he doesn't hate them either. It's something that's never brought up unless I do it first. He has, however, been wanting me to draw him up a tattoo concept, so I think I might have to start doing some sketches. ^_^ He's never expressed any desire to hold me back from my mod adventures, but for one or two things. He refuses to let me get my tongue pierced in his presence (when I visit him I stay at his place, so while I'm visiting I can't get it done, is what that means), and he just wants me to be responsible in my tattooing. Don't tattoo "c** DUMPSTER" or something stupid on my forehead, or tattoo my face at all. Make sure my tattoos are well done, good subject matter, in places easily hidden if need be, that sort of thing. He's the only one in my family whose opinion truly, deeply matters to me. If I ever did anything that made him not proud to be seen with me, I would absolutely die. My mom's opinion has never really been an issue (she hasn't been involved in my life enough for her opinion to really hold any sway, and I think she knows that), her concerns are pretty much the same as my dad's. My sister is kinda freaked out by the whole thing, the permanency of tattoos scares her, and the idea of piercing needles makes her a little faint (but she has agreed to take my niece to my FAVORITE tattoo and piercing shop as soon as she asks for her ears pierced, yay!). So all in all, I've been extremely lucky on the family front as far as mods are concerned.
Hah, my sisters love all my stuff so far. It's my parents that are weirded out by it. And yeah, my dad's old fashioned. I don't like it, but I still love him. I know my dad would still love me no matter what I did, but i still have that little fear in the back of my mind of doing something that would make him not anymore (i know that's impossible, and he's said so, but still).
I love my mom too, but she's always been kinda blase about my mods, so it's not as big of an issue.
It makes me laugh though, on one hand. They're okay with tattoos, which are permanent, but dead set against piercings, which are not really permanent. Go figure.I've always found that strange, parents being more okay with one type of mod than the other, usually piercing and tattoo concerned. I think my dad's a little more freaked out by piercing than tattooing, too. Either way, I think it's always best to at least mention your plans and ideas ahead of time, so there' not quite as much of a shock when they do happen, you know?
Yeah. I still have some things to think about and decide on (i already know I'm going to Ryan Ouelette - he's the bomb) before i go ahead with it.
Thanks, Lauren Laura. emotion_bigheart Fix'd that for ya. It's okay, most everyone gets it wrong.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:08 pm
Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS Jagger-Wolf IN VEGAS
Well, they're used to my 5/8" lobes and my tattoos. They don't flinch anymore when I talk about tattooing. Hell, they even know I want to get into tattooing. But they don't know about the want for a stretched labret (seriously, oval labrets are hot as hell), and I fear it'd be the one thing they couldn't handle. My dad still makes "looks like a freak" comments to stuff on TV, but he'd never say that to me. It'd still give them a heart attack. They fear I wont' get a good job, that my medical assistant certificate will go to s**t (they don't say anything about me graduating with a BFA in the spring though lol), blah blah i'll always be in retail. Hmph.
I love my family, and I know they love me. But sometimes i just wanna... ugh. Also, I'm the oldest, so i get to be the learning platform for them. My sisters get it easy - granted they're not modded at all, but I bet if they did get something done, Mom and Dad would consider it old hat because of dealing with me.I find that quite distressing, your dad calling those who are essentially your people freaks, but he'd never say it to you. The body mod community is your people, your group. It's the same as if he used racial slurs against people on TV, but would never say those slurs to your boyfriend/girlfriend of the race he just insulted. It's fine to not like something, but you do still have to respect it for what it is. My cousin was the first among us 6 grandkids to get tattooed, her older brother second, then myself. I'm 3rd oldest of the 6, she's 4th. But she's gone MUCH further with her tattoos than anyone ever expected, much to their chagrin. Her tattoos are beautiful, well done and professional and all that. But I think they disapprove of her placements, and a bit of subject matter. But she doesn't care, her job as a welder could care less, and it's never held her back from doing anything, as far as I know. My dad doesn't exactly approve of my mods, but he doesn't hate them either. It's something that's never brought up unless I do it first. He has, however, been wanting me to draw him up a tattoo concept, so I think I might have to start doing some sketches. ^_^ He's never expressed any desire to hold me back from my mod adventures, but for one or two things. He refuses to let me get my tongue pierced in his presence (when I visit him I stay at his place, so while I'm visiting I can't get it done, is what that means), and he just wants me to be responsible in my tattooing. Don't tattoo "c** DUMPSTER" or something stupid on my forehead, or tattoo my face at all. Make sure my tattoos are well done, good subject matter, in places easily hidden if need be, that sort of thing. He's the only one in my family whose opinion truly, deeply matters to me. If I ever did anything that made him not proud to be seen with me, I would absolutely die. My mom's opinion has never really been an issue (she hasn't been involved in my life enough for her opinion to really hold any sway, and I think she knows that), her concerns are pretty much the same as my dad's. My sister is kinda freaked out by the whole thing, the permanency of tattoos scares her, and the idea of piercing needles makes her a little faint (but she has agreed to take my niece to my FAVORITE tattoo and piercing shop as soon as she asks for her ears pierced, yay!). So all in all, I've been extremely lucky on the family front as far as mods are concerned.
Hah, my sisters love all my stuff so far. It's my parents that are weirded out by it. And yeah, my dad's old fashioned. I don't like it, but I still love him. I know my dad would still love me no matter what I did, but i still have that little fear in the back of my mind of doing something that would make him not anymore (i know that's impossible, and he's said so, but still).
I love my mom too, but she's always been kinda blase about my mods, so it's not as big of an issue.
It makes me laugh though, on one hand. They're okay with tattoos, which are permanent, but dead set against piercings, which are not really permanent. Go figure.I've always found that strange, parents being more okay with one type of mod than the other, usually piercing and tattoo concerned. I think my dad's a little more freaked out by piercing than tattooing, too. Either way, I think it's always best to at least mention your plans and ideas ahead of time, so there' not quite as much of a shock when they do happen, you know?
Yeah. I still have some things to think about and decide on (i already know I'm going to Ryan Ouelette - he's the bomb) before i go ahead with it.
Thanks, Lauren Laura. emotion_bigheart Fix'd that for ya. It's okay, most everyone gets it wrong.
Crap! Sorry. emotion_facepalm
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:09 pm
IN VEGAS Crap! Sorry. emotion_facepalm It's totally fine. Most people get it wrong. heart
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