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lorchick

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:58 am


The Internet. It is a blessing and a curse. It opens so many doors of communication, learning, growing. But it also opens enticing doors of lies, deceit, and sex. We figure we're anonymous and nobody we know will find us, or find out, we do things we normally wouldn't.
I found my boyfriend signed in this morning, and wound up checking his email to see if a file I sent him went through. Then I found he was signed up to some HORNYSINGLES site, got his password, and found his profile listed him as single and looking for girls or pairs of girls for "sexy talk/playing around/threesomes", and "I'm a sigle (his misspelling, not mine) male, horny, and I like to ******** alot"
Oh Gawd. He hasn't done anything on the site yet, he might have just signed in on a whim. There's not much personal info, not even a profile pic. So it's possible it was just a thing. But it was recent, he's got a one-month free trial.
I changed his profile and stated that it was all lies and he's got a girlfriend, and he's in trouble when he gets home. ;D but I mean, it was a recent signup, it's a newer email than some of mine, the signup confirmation.

Discuss the Internet and how it might have tempted you or someone you know. Discuss the fact that I'm thinking I'll format my boyfriend's computer to punish him, because I told him that's what I'd do if he locked me out of his profile because I'd assume he was doing things he didn't want me to see.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:00 am


Urp. I don't trust anyone with any of my passwords, simple paranoia, not a desire to hide things. xp

It's a lot easier to lose one's inhibitions online. I often find myself acting in ways that I wouldn't IRL. Sometimes that isn't a bad thing; I'm a lot more extroverted online than I am off.

Kinda sad that I've run into so many stories of relationships that had to deal with one of the partners getting involved with someone else online. I don't know why or how it happens. Kinda scary too.

I guess it's because people really believe that nothing they do online will have an effect on their real-world lives. For all that they're interacting with real people, they choose to believe that it's all pretend.

Hackers, scammers, flamers, trolls... They go "It's all just pixels, it doesn't matter." They seem to forget that the people are real. And if it didn't really matter, if it isn't real, then why do they go to all of the trouble to ruin the fun of others?

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Elindranyth Riftweaver

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:36 am


rayinte
They seem to forget that the people are real.
People always forget that when they are telling me how stupid I am for letting people on Gaia bug me so much. Just because they're people I've never met in person and probably never will doesn't mean that they can't hurt me just the same.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:46 am


[Meky]
rayinte
They seem to forget that the people are real.
People always forget that when they are telling me how stupid I am for letting people on Gaia bug me so much. Just because they're people I've never met in person and probably never will doesn't mean that they can't hurt me just the same.
Right. Just because you haven't seen a person face-to-face doesn't make a betrayal any less of a big deal. The emotions are the same.

I mean, if someone I trusted stole something of mine, it's the betrayal that hurts as much or more than the fact that something of mine is gone. That people I trusted took advantage of me, and proved themselves to be bad people, and afterward, I question my judgement and can't trust as easily anymore. :/

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AirisMagik

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:53 am


Uhoh.

FORMAT! Do ett.
Then...
Hide the OS CD. ;O Until he treats you like a queen.
...and steal the hub that connects him to the net. ninja
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:06 am


rayinte
[Meky]
rayinte
They seem to forget that the people are real.
People always forget that when they are telling me how stupid I am for letting people on Gaia bug me so much. Just because they're people I've never met in person and probably never will doesn't mean that they can't hurt me just the same.
Right. Just because you haven't seen a person face-to-face doesn't make a betrayal any less of a big deal. The emotions are the same.

I mean, if someone I trusted stole something of mine, it's the betrayal that hurts as much or more than the fact that something of mine is gone. That people I trusted took advantage of me, and proved themselves to be bad people, and afterward, I question my judgement and can't trust as easily anymore. :/
Hell, the internet leads to more opportunities to be hurt. I mean, probably the worst thing I've had to deal with was losing someone I cared about, not because she really died, but because she didn't exist in the first place. So there was the losing someone you cared about, and being betrayed by someone who you cared about and you thought cared about you. Add to that, the additional people I've had to deal with pretending to be someone they're not while maintaining their real identity, it's astounding.

That s**t is alot harder to pull off in real life xp

Elindranyth Riftweaver


Darth_Sano

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:11 am


While I do agree that the internet is a place of both good and bad. That it tends to have just as much bad content as good, and that it is just as easy to get ahold of the bad content as the good. I dont, personally, agree with you logging into your boyfriends email account. Unless he actually gave you permission to do so, that is still his private stuff.

If you guys have the type of relationship where he knows you log into his email, then disregard the whole privacy thing. But if my girlfriend logged into my email account without me knowing and then snooped around my accounts on other sites, I would be pretty upset. A person should still be allowed some privacy, even in a relationship.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:58 pm


Drunken_Sano_Claus
I dont, personally, agree with you logging into your boyfriends email account. Unless he actually gave you permission to do so, that is still his private stuff.

If you guys have the type of relationship where he knows you log into his email, then disregard the whole privacy thing. But if my girlfriend logged into my email account without me knowing and then snooped around my accounts on other sites, I would be pretty upset. A person should still be allowed some privacy, even in a relationship.


He was logged in (if it was that important, he would have logged out). And he was abusing his right to privacy by keeping things from Lor that didn't need to be secret. So if she abused his, then you may as well call it even. I have no problem with the right to ones own secrets, but creating accounts on singles websites proclaiming his love of "making the beast with two backs", well, that crosses the line.

ChaoticConsonance


ChaoticConsonance

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:02 pm


AirisMagik
Uhoh.

FORMAT! Do ett.
Then...
Hide the OS CD. ;O Until he treats you like a queen.
...and steal the hub that connects him to the net. ninja


Seconded. 3nodding
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:02 pm


Format Format Format!!!!!!!!!111111

I've lied to my friends online.

A few years ago I blatantly lied about an aspect of my physicality to a few people I knew on the internet. I wasn't being decietful to these people, in my mind. I was expressing a part of myself that I always wished I could express in real life.

All those people hate me now, eh. I still don't see how I hurt them. I wasn't really using this information to manipulate them into anything.

calamity


violetta1410

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:19 pm


The internet just makes me shake my head.
Because of the "fact that no one knows you" people go crazy.
To me, the internet is a giant black hole of porn, incest, masturbation and ********. It's sad. But horribly addictive.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:28 pm


There's times when I think of the way I act on the Internet as the real me, and the way I act IRL as a sham put on for the benefit of others. @_@

Destruction Kitty


Darth_Sano

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:06 pm


ChaoticConsonance

He was logged in (if it was that important, he would have logged out). And he was abusing his right to privacy by keeping things from Lor that didn't need to be secret. So if she abused his, then you may as well call it even. I have no problem with the right to ones own secrets, but creating accounts on singles websites proclaiming his love of "making the beast with two backs", well, that crosses the line.


He could have just forgot to log out. It's still a privacy issue to me. I dont agree with what he was doing, but I have hold a great deal in a person's privacy and with people letting me have my own privacy. I just cant get over the fact that there was snooping in a person's personal affairs ( even if it was her boyfriend ), it was wrong in the first place. But I guess that wasnt the original issue.

Lets just hope he did it out of a whim, because I agree, he was just as wrong in his actions too.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:47 pm


he's given me all his passwords and permission to go through his emails. i was actually going in there to sort out junk mail, for the most part. He has no idea how to do anything but delete it. On the opposite end, he's gone through my email with no permission whatsoever and then blown up at me because one of my guyfriends ended an email with "Luv Dare" and that bothered him to no ends.
I will agree readily that if he read my gaia posts he'd probably blow up at me and dump me on the spot for jokingly flirting around. he's super jealous. I'm not sure why. And it really bothers me considering what he did there.

I confronted him with the issue and I'm not sure what all he said but it ended in the bedroom, so I'm pretty sure he won. But there was apologizing involved. Still, I don't know why I'm so gawdamn easy. x___x;; I did punish him by not helping with his chores. And it was agreed that if i catch him looking at porn or doing that kind of s**t again, i WILL scratch all his game CDs. X) and i will, too, you should have seen what I did to the porno VHS he surrendered the other month

COS DAMMIT, IF MY FRIENDS CANT SAY LUV, HE CANT JACK OFF TO OTHER GIRL'S TITTIES, ADSOFIUWENOQW$&#xIU;@$)%*@

edit: to clarify, we've been going out for a year. we're supposed to get married this spring. we'd do it earlier but we can't afford a wedding til then. i wear a ring. he wears a ring. i have a key to his place. he doesn't need a key to mine cos i live with my family and yaddayadda. i have his atm and computer codes, he has some of mine, but can't remember them all and doesn't know enough about software and the net to care to try.

if he ever actually cheated on me, i could clean him out and ruin him, socially and financially, within 24 hours. but i never would because i love him too much and i'm not that kind of person. *pout*

lorchick


Wolffy000

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:34 am


I've learned that from the internet people are dangerous, both brutal and sweet. They are disgusting, but also quite commendable.

Obviously I'm much more of a pervert on the internet than I am in real life, because it's simply easier for people to accept those kinds of actions online. While I may joke about grabbing some girl, the chances are I'm much more shy about these things. It's almost a conforting thought though, it's just acting out.

Besides, in real life, would you really want me flirting so much? I doubt anyone would be so confortable with that. While I may think a lot of the girls here are fetching, the chances of me saying that in real life are fairly slim. I doubt any of you would ever see or notice me the way I am.

The internet is a strange place, really. It's kind of a black market of the depraved human nature. It's generally where we express the worst aspects of ourselves. I find most people on the internet to be crude and disgusting, but thats how a lot of people are. Theft, of both goods and identity. Hiding behind shadows of anonimity that don't actually exist, due to IP tracking and hacking.

But then again, I've seen some damned amazing things happen too. I saw a local hospital, the Seattle Children's Hospital, get around $250k+ two years ago because of Penny Arcade. I've seen people fall in love and marry. I've seen people be able to quit their jobs and persue their dreams because of the support of others.

It's really quite interesting, but it just seems like a condensation of the world around us. The terminals are our eyes, and our personas shine through the text. There is nothing that will promise you who you talk to is who they claim to be, but the real world has not proven this any better in my eyes. The people you talk to always hold secrets, they always lie. What is so different about all of this? We all have buried desires, hopes, dreams, fears, and hatred. It's part of being human, it just becomes so much more apprant in places like this.

We think that just because we see a person face to face that they are who they are, but there aren't any promises of that. Really, while human touch is still nessessary and conforting, I wonder which is truely better for you? The social interaction met by people whom you know by a simple name, or those whom you encounter on the street?

I suppose in time the question really won't hold any relevence. But it curious to think about for now. Humans are ever so curious to push their boundries that we've created our own world to play in, and still try to push ourselves from our homeland. It really does make me wonder sometimes.
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