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 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:50 pm
Our opinions on the religion that slaughtered our ancestors by the millions?
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:46 am
I try not to harbor any bad feels since none of the crimes were committed against me directly. Just sometimes I wonder if Christainity would survive if they hadn't stolen so many of our traditions.
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:50 am
Religious wars have been fought over resources/money/goods/power/land since before christianity, however, few have been a successfull as the christians..
And while it's easy to blame christianity for the events, that isn't really the "right" choice. Greed, the thirst for power, is to blame.
Once a person with enough thirst for power found it's way to a influencial position with a religion that was to the point on what was forbidden, it was easy enough to convince the people that believed in the still new religion, that they would have to do "god's work" (which in fact was more like, the churches dirtywork).
The christan church has been a political and a financhial organisation for centuries. A damned well successfull one. And it's stayed that way by writing and rewriting the bible, making the alterations that fit them the best.
In modern day, the christian right is scary. Politicly advocating that one's religion's restriction of human rights should be made into law is a narrowminded and wicked thing to do. Especially when you stand and advocate that only for the rules that fit you..
I've read the bible, and I think it's a nice enough book, once you get over all the who begat's and the pointless legalities..
The moral teachings are different from our own, far more placid. It preaches that you should be kind, generous, loving, respecting, honest and open.. to All peoples, even your worst enemies. It's a damned shame that the followers of the faith don't live up to what it teaches, all the time.
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:11 pm
Christianity is a fractured, and rather sad faith system which has so many different interpretations that one is hard pressed to nail down what Christianity actually is. It is founded on historically unverifiable events, it attempts to hold the Judiac beliefs as part of its canon of laws and beliefs, and yet at the same time attempt to signify them as being irrelevant (despite this, Old Testament views are often used to justify intolerance and beliefs which justify Christian superiority and such practices as matyrdom, evangelisation, etc). Religion, in the form of massive, singular belief, is invariably used as a method of mass control. If one can pursuade people that a singular belief is true, then necessarily other things must be true too, such as singular political thought, etc. Diversity abhors singularity, but then so too does singularity abhor diversity. Whilst diversity can accept the thoughts of people for whom singularity is the only way, the same cannot be said for singularity, which, if it can, will attempt to eliminate diversity as much as humanly possible. Unfortunately for singularity it too eventually devolves into diversity, whether it be the disintegration of an Empire, a Nation or a Religion into factions and sub-groups of what was once a singularity. A couple of sites which may be of use: It's the end of the world as we know it... again.Welcome to EnlightenmentVer thu heil
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:52 pm
to be honest i think the nazis were onto something when they said the religions of abraham were alien
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:07 am
I was once a christian myself and was well versed in the bible so I know what I'm saying when I say that there is a huge diffrence between christianity and religion. I dont blame christianity for the crimes commited against our people, I blame the church. other than the goverment the church is the most corrupt institutions on the face of this planet. They twist their bible to get what they want and control their people when if they would practice christianity the way it is supposed to be practiced then none of that would have happend. The only reason why I left christianity was it just wasnt right for me and asatru is. Its christianity that we should hold to blame, its the church.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:28 am
Lucain.the.nord I was once a christian myself and was well versed in the bible so I know what I'm saying when I say that there is a huge diffrence between christianity and religion. I dont blame christianity for the crimes commited against our people, I blame the church. other than the goverment the church is the most corrupt institutions on the face of this planet. They twist their bible to get what they want and control their people when if they would practice christianity the way it is supposed to be practiced then none of that would have happend. The only reason why I left christianity was it just wasnt right for me and asatru is. Its christianity that we should hold to blame, its the church. Besides.. the corrupt and domeneering people that rose in rank and pulled the strings "could" have found their way to the top of any religious ladder... Human Greed and Immorality..
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:02 am
Miniar Lucain.the.nord I was once a christian myself and was well versed in the bible so I know what I'm saying when I say that there is a huge diffrence between christianity and religion. I dont blame christianity for the crimes commited against our people, I blame the church. other than the goverment the church is the most corrupt institutions on the face of this planet. They twist their bible to get what they want and control their people when if they would practice christianity the way it is supposed to be practiced then none of that would have happend. The only reason why I left christianity was it just wasnt right for me and asatru is. Its christianity that we should hold to blame, its the church. Besides.. the corrupt and domeneering people that rose in rank and pulled the strings "could" have found their way to the top of any religious ladder... Human Greed and Immorality.. All it was, was just another excuse to control.
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:31 pm
i guess its more easy to follow a religion wich tells you that no matter what you did you will be forgiven,rather than be an asatru and earn that forgiveness with your blood and the moment you get to see the beutifull face of a valkyrie and know that the end aproaches,we have something they dont,and that its HONOR,no matter what we will stand,even if it cost our lives,cause been an asatru means that you are worthy of vallhala
ALU
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:04 pm
i peronally find the religion dispicable and i am a sworn enemy of christians for being a bunch of hypocritical and genocidal bastards
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:50 pm
Rollo Svanberg i peronally find the religion dispicable and i am a sworn enemy of christians for being a bunch of hypocritical and genocidal bastards amen razz
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:06 am
stare amen sounds to catholic,actuali,asatruars end the prhases with ALU,its a runicseal,same as wiccans they say SO BE IT,is the same,but ALU is in ancient germanic blaugh
ALU
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:57 pm
i got jumped by three christians because of my religion and i kicked all of their asses one ended up with an unhinged jaw and four broken ribs from what i hear it might be in part that i am trying to re create the ancient art of the berserkergang
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:07 am
proclaiming to hate all praciticioners of any faith simply because you disagree with their choice of religion lowers you to the level of the catholic church and not just that.. but the Old catholic church... the type that ran the cruisades and burnt the witches...
In other words.. don't stoop to the level of those that you believe you "hate". Show a little understanding towards them for the vast majority is simply ignorant.
Remember háfamál teaches us that we shouldn't put our own ignorance on display.
We may not be required to be kind and loving to those that disagree with us but we are required to have a reason to be unkind. Hatred for the sake of hatred is not really that honourable.
They may be hypocrites and ignorants but these are not the same people as slaughteres the heathens and pagans of all faiths other than their own.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:04 pm
I believe, those who practice the faith, with kindness and seek to live in harmony with their neighbors, and do not pass judgement are good people who we ourselves should show the same honors to.
Those, however, wish to oppress and preach that those who do not bow and become slaves, following what they say blindly, I invite them to meet me on the field, with steel on steel, and we shall see who's god favors whom.
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