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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:47 am
Hmm, well, I woke up too early again today and flipped to a channel of a group of women discussing the ideas behind monogamy and polygamy (no, this show was NOT 'The View'!). So, I thought, "Why don't I ask other smart people what they think...I know! I'll post it on the Gates!"
Essentially, what do you think of monogamy versus polygamy? Is monogamy a thing of the past? Is polygamy the way to go? Have you ever done it or thought of doing it, or think it has a place in the world? Or do you wholeheartedly believe it will never ever work and people who try it are wrong? How do you feel about polygamy versus simply cheating on people behind their back? etc etc etc...
And to be specific, we're talking about *relationships* with more than one person, and not just having the occassional threesome, or foursome, or fivesome, sixsome, 23some...
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:40 am
I'm a firm believer in monogamy myself, but if all the people involved in a polygamy are in agreement, I have no right to tell them how to handle their relationship.
However, cheating is completely wrong. I really don't like people that cheat in a relationship. At least in a polygamy all people SHOULD be in agreement to such a relationship. I see nothing wrong with that, though I will never do that.
But cheating is wrong. I never cheated, nor will I. I will never be part of a polygamist group either.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:18 pm
I don't think monogamy is a thing of the past. Sure, a lot of people cheat, but nobody I know has more than one partner. Monogamy is still the main form of relationship by far. Sure, polygamy may happen a little more than in the past, but it's nowhere near commonplace enough to be the norm.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:54 pm
I don't consider it a thing of the past, but polygamy is just fine. Who says you can only care for one person at a time? It just works out better for most people to devote time to one significant other.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:20 pm
I am with Dave on this one, what he said reflects my feelings. I think there will always be monogamy, we seem to work that way a lot of the time and it is just fine, no problem. But I think polygamy can work too for some people, however, I think it would be uncommon to have a real working polygamous relationship that is very much long term. Particularly in this society. Maybe once we evolve a bit more it won't be so bothersome to some people.
Having said that, I am not into those polygamist relationships where there is one man and a bunch of women that he controls, including young girls. I just get a very weird feeling about some of them.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:31 pm
umaeril Having said that, I am not into those polygamist relationships where there is one man and a bunch of women that he controls, including young girls. I just get a very weird feeling about some of them. haha, you mean like a Harem of sorts? XD I can see the *logic* behind polygamous relationships. As humans we sometimes fantasize, and have uncontrollable urges which are natural, but rather than deal with it in a 'cloak and dagger' sort of way some people forego the 'secret motel room in the next town over' and just bring everything out in the open. For some people it could work out. With that said, however, I agree with all of you in that monogamy has been such a big part of our society and way of thinking that it is very hard for anyone to make a polygamous relationship work properly. As of right now it's just not the way we've been programmed. Of course, with society as it is and being 'open minded' such a big fad now I can see more and more people making an effort to make such a dynamic work. I would suspect, however, that all parties involved--either collectively or individually--would need a very strong emotional support base, and a good therapist! As beautiful as relationships are they can still be quite bothersome and painful! And having just one partner is hard work enough, imagine having two or more! It would really take the cooperation of everyone involved, and everyone would have to be keenly aware of the situation that they each belong to everyone else and not just one person. Now, in answer to my own question, I also do not think monogamy will ever disappear. But I do believe that in the future--maybe not in any of our lifetimes--polygamy will become as normal an option as monogamy. As we humans collectively evolve emotionally and spiritually we might be able to make such a paradigm commonplace. Likewise, of course, with same-sex marriages. Those two things together will eventually become an accepted and maybe even celebrated reality. Would I ever be in a polygamistic relationship? I can't say. Right now I'm still having problems finding one woman to be my partner. But who knows what the future holds? While I won't be actively shopping around for polygamists I'd certainly think the situation over very carefully if ever it is presented to me.
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:26 pm
A lot of humans are inculcated by custom to be monogamous, but there are also many cultures where polyamy is accepted and even approved. However, this seems to be in general where there is one man and many wives. Once it is just as acceptable for a woman to have many husbands (polyandry), then I will think that we have evolved. I don't see it happening soon.
You mentioned harems, but that is not what I was thinking of, I was thinking of Mormons, but I guess that is a harem by another name.
Personally, I will stick to just one guy. One is enough for me.
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:32 pm
yeah, polygyny is definitely the more rampant version. I think, though ,that at some point there will be *close* to equal acceptance! Well, maybe...prolly not in our lifetime.
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:03 am
Mebbe in outer space.
Yeah, on another planet.
In the year 3535.
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:42 pm
razz I just think it'll be a somewhat natural progression as time goes by. The level of open mindedness, the closeness of the world through new methods of communication, etc. etc.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:31 am
Ethan Dirtch razz I just think it'll be a somewhat natural progression as time goes by. The level of open mindedness, the closeness of the world through new methods of communication, etc. etc. We have to get there first. Don't you think we will destroy ourselves before that can happen? I would have said no to that, before all this madness in other countries. But now I see more clearly how fanaticism, intolerance and fundamentalism is going to bring us all down. All because of heat, in my opinion.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:27 pm
Ah intolerance, you are one of my biggest traits. I'm so intolerant of so many people it would be easier to list all those people I actually approve of.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:00 pm
umaeril We have to get there first. Don't you think we will destroy ourselves before that can happen? I would have said no to that, before all this madness in other countries. But now I see more clearly how fanaticism, intolerance and fundamentalism is going to bring us all down. All because of heat, in my opinion. I'm a bit more optimistic. Humanity is adaptable, and I wholly believe that there are enough good people in the world to balance against all the bad stuff that's happening.
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:58 pm
See, I think it is when heat becomes truly uncomfortable and inescapable that you start to get angry and insane human behavior. And heat is coming for all of us.
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:25 pm
Heat really does make me wanna strange a *****.
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