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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:31 pm
Oh yeah? Funny...I was being blocked by my fantasies of my hand down Orlando Bloom's mustached pants.
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:48 pm
Sadly, I have yet to see the movie. Hopefully, this Friday, I will. If I don't, I may hurt my friends with cars.
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:43 am
LadyPrincePyro Oh yeah? Funny...I was being blocked by my fantasies of my hand down Orlando Bloom's mustached pants. Pyro: Oh yeah... oh baby... those mustached pants... I can't resist clothing with facial hair... rofl
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:35 pm
Yamino Tenshi Pyro: Oh yeah... oh baby... those mustached pants... I can't resist clothing with facial hair... rofl I KNOW right? I just love the way all those little hairs tickle along the palm of my hand...
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Dreamwhisper Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:05 pm
[SCENE: The RP's green room, which looks like a cross between a very large living room and a rec room from the YWCA. Three couches line the walls, and there is a scattering of La-Z-Boy chairs. Tucked in one corner is a big fridge and freezer combo, with a microwave next to them on a stand. Just off-center is a large table with several chairs. Three empty pop bottles and a half-eaten bag of Fritos sit on the table. MAARTEN and PIET are playing gin rummy, and using the Fritos to keep score. PIET has just discarded when CHARLIE teleports in.]
CHARLIE: (fuming) WHAT WAS THAT ALL ABOUT?!
PIET and MAARTEN look up.
PIET: It wasn't personal, Charlie.
CHARLIE: Wasn't personal? Wasn't personal??
PIET: No. I'm the Jungian representation of everyone's Shadow. I do things people want to do, but don't. Everybody wants to belt somebody somtime.
MAARTEN: I think that's the Super-Ego, actually.
PIET: *waves hand* Jung, Freud. Whatever.
CHARLIE: Oh, I'll belt SOMEONE, all right!
PIET: Think of it as a way of testing the newly portrayed facets of Dorian's personality. Will she give in to her undeniably righteous rage and attempt to beat me to pulp, or will she flail me verbally now and later demand Cori rein in her rabid dog at the party? In either case, how she feels about you will be tied in to her schoolyard reputation, thereby setting up more potential plots and plot complications. In a way, you'll both be a sort of negative-image Prince and Bride, mirroring the main plot of the game.
MAARTEN: It's for Art, Charlie.
CHARLIE: *glowers at them both for a long moment* FINE. But that last bottle of blackberry merlot belongs to me, me, me! *stomps off to fridge, grabs a bottle and disappears.
PIET and MAARTEN watch her leave.
PIET: Women.
MAARTEN: No kidding. *pause* Gin.
[END SCENE]
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:22 pm
Why is my 'nuclear explosion' detector suddenly going off?
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:33 pm
Not that I am against Drama IC, but this is a little out there. I can brush aside the fact that my character is the only one who has ever been caught every single time she's broken the rules when nobody else I can recall has been, and that despite the fact nobody was nearby at the time Rachel has always shown up at the scene. Ok, that's how the dice rolled.
But how did a guy who was inside an "unusually busy" cafeteria hear a girl's voice from several hallways down? And what reason did he have to strike someone who he has no connection to whatsoever? Call me paranoid, but if Rachel hadn't been unable to hear Camilla's distressed voice from all the way inside town I wouldn't be surprised if she'd shown up instead.
Dream, why did you completely ignore me when I was trying to talk to you about this over AIM? You were online and talking to other people. I was not being rude or accusing, I was trying to avoid causing a scene, which I suppose is inevitable now. I'm posting this here instead of as a PM because I know you'll probably just ignore it otherwise. Anyway, you felt the need to justify your character's actions here, so I'm just responding.
I don't like starting drama up with fellow RPers, but I cannot help but feel that you are being very discriminating against my characters and I, for no apparent reason. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just paranoid, but when you do things like this it's worrying. Do you actually have something against me personally, or do you just occasionally feel the need to "belt somebody?"
Maybe you're having a hard time understanding that I am not actually Charlie, I made her that immature and selfish on purpose. She's meant to piss people off, but if you want to slap her so much why don't you use the appropriate character, instead of using the only other one available and then making excuses for the actions.
I'm not the only one who has noticed this bias, but I'm fairly sure no-one else will have the guts to comment, since you're a mod. Nonetheless, I wish you'd at least be willing to discuss these issues with me personally rather than forcing me to make a public spectacle about it.
Also, I extend my apologies to our new RPers, it's unfair that you have to listen to this when you've just arrived and I don't want to give you a bad impression of our guild, because it really is one of the very few literate RPs on Gaia (or anywhere) but I can't sit on this any more.
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:59 am
Yamino Tenshi I'm not the only one who has noticed this bias, but I'm fairly sure no-one else will have the guts to comment, since you're a mod. Nonetheless, I wish you'd at least be willing to discuss these issues with me personally rather than forcing me to make a public spectacle about it. I'm not afriad of a mod. sweatdrop But i'm not posting to be defiant, nor will I take a stance on the situation. If its other opinions you want, it's other opinions you'll get. Piet's shocking stunt seems to have boggled a couple of us here. Even though the motivation and reasoning behind Piet's actions were explained, it does seem a little unexpected. If it was Dorian's reaction that was meant to be gained from this, I'm sure it could have been achieved if Camilla herself had slapped Charlie. From what I learned, I understand Piet and the Loki-thing he has going on and it makes sense for his character to cause trouble of this nature. But it isn't a question of uncharacteristic behavior, I think it's just an issue of realism. I too, am a bit thrown off that he can hear Camilla's yelling from inside the noisy cafeteria, while everyone else is oblivious to it. Even the characters standing a few feet down the hallway aren't startled, so how loud could she possibly be screaming? Now this isn't the first time that a flag has been raised about biased character intrusions, but I know (being an ex-mod myself) that it's a GM's job is to stir up drama. And I know Dream controls about 18% of the characters in the roleplay - not including teachers, students and other NPCs. Four of those characters playing key roles. Rachel: student council Cori: popularity queen Piet: s**t starter Anthy: ...Anthy. So it's obvious that there will be many confrontations to come IC with these characters, along with many set-ups as well. Perhaps because Charlie is such a troublemaker, many of these incidents include her along with confrontations from Dream's characters. I don't want to make any further comments on this because I dont think there is anything else to be said, I also don't want to stir the waters. After all, we're just trying to RP and have fun here. But looking at both sides of the situation, I understand why there's a bit of a discussion around it.
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Dreamwhisper Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:17 am
Ivy mentioned on AIM Camilla would smack Charlie. On a whim, I suggested Piet do it. We ran with it.
That's it. No persecution. No singling out. I didn't respond to you on AIM because I never got them. I had closed your window after you contacted me in the late afternoon about Gaia's posting being up. It never popped up again. I'm sorry I missed you.
Yes, Charlie is immature and selfish. I understand why she doesn't always have a clue why other characters aren't responding the way she thinks they should. What is frustrating for me is that you apparently don't understand why other characters react the way they do. You said over AIM that it was "unfair" for Rachel to put Dorian down as having a set of lockpicks, because it was Charlie who had them.
Dorian's reputation as Ohtori Amsterdam's bad girl is a two-edged sword. Guilt by association in these circumstances is one people jump to all the time. (If you want proof, check out the Life Issues and Extended Discussion forums.) It's not a rational or wise conlusion for Rachel to reach, but it is a logical one.
As for why no one else heard Camilla's yelling, consider the events of the mixer the night before. People who ate the chocolate are still dealing with what happened. Tempers are touchy. It's not unlikely that screaming matches were heard on different parts of the Ohtori campus throughout the day. What's one more at dinner time?
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:14 am
Okay, my two cents: Charlie has been caught breaking into a vending machine and breaking into a chem lab. Both of those are rather large offenses, done in public places and completely open to view. She's been in trouble for yelling at Maarten, but to be fair, she did that right in front of two council members. Other characters, non-council members, have been angry at her before, and that's because IC, Charlie is a very unlikable person. Your character has been caught engaging in two offenses.
Dorian has been caught alongside of Charlie breaking into the vending machine and the chem lab, bullying Gregor in the halls, spurting jelly at someone from a packet, miscellaneous acts of bullying, had her room searched thoroughly, and is basically a target, and I have not heard one word of complaint.
Maarten has been obviously targeted for humiliation so often it's ridiculous. He's been caught in his bullying, had a private conversation with the student council, and has been accused of rape, and once again, no complaints.
Why, do you ask?
Because if you create a character who is apt to go against school rules as thoroughly as they did, you have to expect in character consequences for in character actions. If your character does something against the rules in public, I roll...THE PUNISHMENT DICE! And your character gets punished or not punished depending on this roll. It is an unbiased system. I designed it to be so.
Moving on: I figured that Camilla and the gang should be in front of the cafeteria by then. So Piet heard the conversation going on like that. Not impossible, not even improbable, and it's about the same as when Sofie heard Maarten bullying Rodas and Charlie from a few floors up and inside a building. Even with the window open, that's some superhuman hearing ability. Now, the post could have been handled better, but it's no reason to accuse Dream of going out of her way to abuse your character.
I am severely upset about your comment about 'no one having the guts to come forth and say something'. I'm very open to complaints, and have never bashed anyone over the head for stating an opinion. This is not to say I agree with every complaint: I've debated quite a few points rationally, but I am open and ready to listen if I get any.
In fact, I've even sought some of the targeted characters out to ask if it was okay: (I asked LPP if we shouldn't tone down some of the Maarten abuse.) I've never had any complaints of bias, or complaints about Dream from anyone other than you. I don't think this is because anyone's too afraid to come forth, and I especially don't think calling everyone cowards because they don't agree is a good way to state your opinion. However, if anyone does have a complaint they'd like to make, please make it now. I'd rather have it in the open so it can be dealt with, rather than just festering in secret.
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:23 am
I have a comment:
EVERYONE~
LOVE & PEACE~ <3
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:40 am
Thanks for clearing that up about the AIM messaging Dream; I was on AIM express so that might be why you didn't get the messages, although everyone else I was talking to recieved them. neutral Ivy-chan It is an unbiased system. I designed it to be so. It's not the dice-rolling system that seems biased. And for the record, Dorian has yet to recieve any real punishments (did she and Ivan ever do that dentention? Did anyone ever keep track?) and Maarten is purposely set up for countless humiliations by his own RPer. It's not the same. Ivy-chan it's about the same as when Sofie heard Maarten bullying Rodas and Charlie from a few floors up and inside a building. Yeah, that was a stretch when I first posted it, but when people pointed out how unlikely that I was I changed my post. It's not that unlikely for a blind girl to hear raised voices. It IS unlikely for some guy to jump out of a conversation he is having in the cafeteria, dash over to "save" someone her barely knows and double-slap the girl next to her who he doesn't know at all. How is Charlie supposed to react to that? Things like that just don't happen. Camilla wasn't described as yelling, whereas int he instance you're talking about, Charlie actually was. Ivy-chan I am severely upset about your comment about 'no one having the guts to come forth and say something'. I'm very open to complaints, and have never bashed anyone over the head for stating an opinion. I agree with you entirely and that's why I've been urging them to talk. Most of them are afraid of being targeted IC if they raise their opinion. Ivy-chan I don't think this is because anyone's too afraid to come forth, and I especially don't think calling everyone cowards because they don't agree is a good way to state your opinion. I don't think they're cowards at all, because their worries are legitimate. This would probably be better discussed further in PMs and IMs.
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:42 pm
- Dorian was made to clean the mess in the cafeteria. Her punishment will be on Monday, as well as Ivan's. Ivan will be posing as a model in the art room, and I don't quite remember what Dorian's will be. Ask Dream. They both received demerits. Demerits are kept track of and punishments are given according to how many demerits one has.
- Piet didn't save Camilla just to save her, he just took the opportunity to cause some havoc. That's all. some people don't really need a good reason to be mean and violent, especially if that's how they have fun. Charlie can react just like Camilla did: have a OMGHOLYWTF!!!?? moment.
-They can PM or IM me, then.
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:45 pm
Yamino Tenshi It's not the dice-rolling system that seems biased. And for the record, Dorian has yet to recieve any real punishments (did she and Ivan ever do that dentention? Did anyone ever keep track?) and Maarten is purposely set up for countless humiliations by his own RPer. It's not the same. Claiming I don't like your characters which is why they get punished is tacky, Yamino. I am keeping track of when Dorian and Ivan get detention, since my character punished them in the first place. Their punishment happens on Monday in-game. Right now, the day is Saturday. It is the same thing, Yamino. Again: in-character actions have in-character consequences. Whether a character is purposefully set up to be constantly humiliated is irrelevant. Everyone can PM to ask to not get caught at something: Barentine asked for Ivan and Dorian to get away witih their stunt in the gym. Asking isn't carte blanc permission, though. Certain things -- breaking into Akio's office, say -- will not be allowed.
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Dreamwhisper Vice Captain
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