Your philosophy on life.

[Mikomi Katsura]

Rising Hope

The meaning of life is "to live".
The purpose of life, is to live, not exist.
Use what life you have, not waste it by trying to exist (become immortal)
razz

I definately agree. Existing just means that you're just kind of here, and living and existing are both completely different. I believe that this applies with every human; We just need something to do. If we do nothing, we don't survive. If we do nothing, we get bored. Reasonable, right?  

[27x]

I believe it's impossible for anyone to act, or speak, without believing in some kind of movement, or higher power. For children it's there parents. For religeous people, it is god, or sometimes God's(as if). I also believe that all movements weather it is philosophicle, religeous, scientific, or anything of the sort, leads down to Good, evil, moderation, and indifference. An example of good would be... well the only person that comes to mind is Jesus. An example of moderation would be Buddha, Lao Tsu, and such. An example of evil would be Hitler, satanists, and such. Finally, I think the best example of indifference, is Neizche(cant spell is name right), who boldly rejected all movements except one, which was the famous," god is dead". Though I think he wasn't the first to claim that. Perhaps the second or third, but not the first.  

[Belguifre]

Free will is a very complex subject, I belive I only truly have free will in thought because thought is uninhibited. I am able to think that I can fly but I cannot, I am inhibited by natural law. And as for speech, behavior etc, they all react to my surrounding enviroment, i.e I would not say the the same things or act in the same way in the company of conservatives as I would in the company of Socialists or Communists.

do we exist? "I think therefore I am"

what is the meaning of life? Still thinking about that one

what is the purpose of life? Judging from animal instinct it is to mate and reproduce and so to my species

what should we do with life? Live it.  

[Belguifre]

I_27_04

I believe it's impossible for anyone to act, or speak, without believing in some kind of movement, or higher power. For children it's there parents. For religeous people, it is god, or sometimes God's(as if). I also believe that all movements weather it is philosophicle, religeous, scientific, or anything of the sort, leads down to Good, evil, moderation, and indifference. An example of good would be... well the only person that comes to mind is Jesus. An example of moderation would be Buddha, Lao Tsu, and such. An example of evil would be Hitler, satanists, and such. Finally, I think the best example of indifference, is Neizche(cant spell is name right), who boldly rejected all movements except one, which was the famous," god is dead". Though I think he wasn't the first to claim that. Perhaps the second or third, but not the first.

hey this one band wrote a song about that, Who was it though Nine Inch Nails?, Slayer?,  

[Raticiel]

Well, the free will subject is very complex indeed. I think I have my free will, but that doesn't mean I'm not at least a little bit determined by (for example) laws of nature, maybe by God... I don't believe in fate but I think nothing happens without a reason. I couldn't decide on where I was born, where I live and stuff like this, but I can make choices right now. When I live, I can decide. But there is a small problem which bites me here. Is there any proof that I really make my decisions autonomically? Maybe it's just an illusion? I think I made a choice, but I also know that I'm determined at least by situation, by my predisposition, by my past experience...
Lately I read a very thick book about this kind of stuff, written by G.W. Leibniz. I highly reccomend it. It's a bit old and maybe you may think it's outdated, but the way this wonderful thinker proves that we are BOTH free and determined is really good, and I like it a lot 3nodding

And btw, I think that that "to live" is to experience your life and have consciousness. "To exist"... what does it mean? I'm sure it's totally different than living. And much more problem to describe it xd  

[LoreWren]

Almost everything is subjective to a persons experiences. So if you believe in free will, you have it. If you don't believe in it, it doesn't exist for you, because you will make all your choices based on what someone else tell you to do, or what you think they want you to do. I exist, because I believe I exist. I can make just as big a point for the opposite POV, but I don't believe that way. It doesn't matter if there's free will or if we exist, because whatever we believe is right for us.  

[AbrAbraxas]

LoreWren

Almost everything is subjective to a persons experiences. So if you believe in free will, you have it. If you don't believe in it, it doesn't exist for you, because you will make all your choices based on what someone else tell you to do, or what you think they want you to do. I exist, because I believe I exist. I can make just as big a point for the opposite POV, but I don't believe that way. It doesn't matter if there's free will or if we exist, because whatever we believe is right for us.

i am not disputing your perspective in fact i like to agree with it to a degree, but i wonder, what would happen if you believe that you do not exist?
which reminds me of a joke:
Descartes walks into a bar, the bartender asks him if he would like a drink, he responds "I think not." and poof he disappears.
rofl  

[LoreWren]

AbrAbraxas

LoreWren

Almost everything is subjective to a persons experiences. So if you believe in free will, you have it. If you don't believe in it, it doesn't exist for you, because you will make all your choices based on what someone else tell you to do, or what you think they want you to do. I exist, because I believe I exist. I can make just as big a point for the opposite POV, but I don't believe that way. It doesn't matter if there's free will or if we exist, because whatever we believe is right for us.

i am not disputing your perspective in fact i like to agree with it to a degree, but i wonder, what would happen if you believe that you do not exist?
which reminds me of a joke:
Descartes walks into a bar, the bartender asks him if he would like a drink, he responds "I think not." and poof he disappears.
rofl

lol. I guess if you didn't believe you were real, you'd either be really depressed or really happy.  

[AbrAbraxas]

i do believe that to a certain extent our subjective reality controls or allows what we know and experience, but for some reason i think that in some people it manifests in different degrees.
in affirmation of you statement i have seen those who believe that they are at the mercy of chance, they live like a leaf in the wind, feeling no connection to the forces that shape their lives. while others live knowing that they are in control and they have a degree of control or influence over the contents and events of thier lives.
but sometime there are those who feel that they have the ability to be in control, who have a positive outlook and believe that they make their reality yet they seem to be assailed by "bad luck" they seem more out of control than others who dont care and live life like a game and everything goes well for them.
im sure there is something there that i dont see, but it hints to me that there is more to it than belief, perhaps it has to do with some level of development?
good day  

[LoreWren]

I think it probably has something to do also with one's skills and situation. And if people know they're in control, but make bad choices, or aren't confident about being in control, then their lifes are probably going to be less good then they could be.  

[AbrAbraxas]

LoreWren

I think it probably has something to do also with one's skills and situation. And if people know they're in control, but make bad choices, or aren't confident about being in control, then their lifes are probably going to be less good then they could be.

yes but we still have not isolated the factor, i say development you say skills, its the same ethereal thing... there is, though, something more than just belief at work here. there is some other ordering factor.

the universe is filled with chaos, we create our own order, belief is a part of that, but how does one rise up enough to fully participate in co-creation? that is a perplexing question.  

[LoreWren]

AbrAbraxas

LoreWren

I think it probably has something to do also with one's skills and situation. And if people know they're in control, but make bad choices, or aren't confident about being in control, then their lifes are probably going to be less good then they could be.

yes but we still have not isolated the factor, i say development you say skills, its the same ethereal thing... there is, though, something more than just belief at work here. there is some other ordering factor.

the universe is filled with chaos, we create our own order, belief is a part of that, but how does one rise up enough to fully participate in co-creation? that is a perplexing question.

Butterfly theory?  

[H20edDownAzn]

Recently I've been enjoying the musings of Dan, co-founder of avanoo.com, and have found that I'd like to incorporate them into my own beliefs.

Life is a series of moments. Each moment is unique and flows into the next moment. Thus everything is impermanent and momentary. Pain and pleasure are fleeting. They exist as feelings trapped inside moments and when their moments are gone, they are lost to memory. The purpose of life is to live in these moments. Absorb each one and savor it, but be ready to transition into the next one and give that one as much attention as the last. For, we can never know if we'll exist in the future, and cannot rely on our memories to accurately contain the past.

I'll write more later. The moment right now is telling me to go to bed!  

[nightlight]

nightlight's life philosophies (or at least general attitudes to live by):

1. Wisdom through suffering. (borrowed from Aeschylus)

2. No rest for the weary, you should know better.  

[alliop]

Matter and energy are all that exist and nothing else.

Life has no objective meaning.

Good and evil do not exist. They are mearly words used by people to condemn or aprove certian actions.

Our actions are products of different amounts of fate and free will.