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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:56 pm


Polytheist, but its complicated...
The closest thing would be Wicca for me but at the same time Buddhist, and yet again with Mythology... I'm really a mixture of about everything, even slight Christianity having believing in the angels and all~
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:59 am


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So kind of eclectic like?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:44 pm


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Polytheist, but its complicated...
The closest thing would be Wicca for me but at the same time Buddhist, and yet again with Mythology... I'm really a mixture of about everything, even slight Christianity having believing in the angels and all~


Well, Wicca is ditheistic, Buddhism is usually atheistic, and angels aren't deities, so that's part of a monotheism wink

I avoid angels myself. I don't think the servants of YHWH would be too keen on helping a follower of another deity wink
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 3:25 pm


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I'm not sure I much believe in angels :/
I dunno.... I haven't done any research on the matter

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:19 pm


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Morte_Lythen
Polytheist, but its complicated...
The closest thing would be Wicca for me but at the same time Buddhist, and yet again with Mythology... I'm really a mixture of about everything, even slight Christianity having believing in the angels and all~


Well, Wicca is ditheistic, Buddhism is usually atheistic, and angels aren't deities, so that's part of a monotheism wink

I avoid angels myself. I don't think the servants of YHWH would be too keen on helping a follower of another deity wink
That sort of true about Buddhism but it's sort of not. They claim to not be religion because they don't worship a god but they do allow for a a higher state of being and entities of a divine nature. Neither of these can exist in a hard line atheist outlook.

Really it's all a matter of definition. As this discussion demonstrates, terms like god or diety are rather fluid and dificult to define. Personally I am a polythiest. I worship numerouse gods from a specific pantheon. However, my belief in these particular gods doesn't perclude the existence of other gods. Many diverse and, at times, completely contradictory gods can coexist perfectly well in my worldview. I'll even allow for the Christian god, even though he denies mine. I simply disagree with him.
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:45 pm


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Morte_Lythen
Polytheist, but its complicated...
The closest thing would be Wicca for me but at the same time Buddhist, and yet again with Mythology... I'm really a mixture of about everything, even slight Christianity having believing in the angels and all~


Well, Wicca is ditheistic, Buddhism is usually atheistic, and angels aren't deities, so that's part of a monotheism wink

I avoid angels myself. I don't think the servants of YHWH would be too keen on helping a follower of another deity wink
That sort of true about Buddhism but it's sort of not. They claim to not be religion because they don't worship a god but they do allow for a a higher state of being and entities of a divine nature. Neither of these can exist in a hard line atheist outlook.

Really it's all a matter of definition. As this discussion demonstrates, terms like god or diety are rather fluid and dificult to define. Personally I am a polythiest. I worship numerouse gods from a specific pantheon. However, my belief in these particular gods doesn't perclude the existence of other gods. Many diverse and, at times, completely contradictory gods can coexist perfectly well in my worldview. I'll even allow for the Christian god, even though he denies mine. I simply disagree with him.


Buddhism is debateably a religion, agreed. For the sake of discussion we can say it is - after all, LaVeyan Satanism is technically a religion. Sort of. And many Buddhists would describe it as a religion.

Buddhism could be said to be technically "non-theistic", as they don't deny the existence of gods; deities are simply not an aspect of their religion. There are theistic Buddhists as well, which is why I said "usually" wink I'm not really sure how that works, but there is a particular pantheon associated with Buddhism. But the Buddha is not a deity of any stripe, nor is he worshipped.

Atheism, though, is simply lack of belief in a deity. It doesn't involve anything else involving spirituality, just deities.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:27 pm


I'm Atheistic.

Gods don't exist. All they are are grandiose thought-forms created by people and, through the gain of worship and power, become powerful beings.

The only power they have is the power you let them have over you.

Then again, I *do* believe in the thought forms, I just don't consider them "deity" as a deity would be omnipotent, omniscient, or otherwise more powerful than humanity independently. A step above, if you will.

Thought-forms are powerful, so long as the majority of people continue to believe them powerful, i.e. these "gods" are given power to rule by their followers, who could just as easily take that power away.

So, seeing as I believe in the thought-form pseudo-gods, but not the existence of a "real" god or deity, and seeing as I worship nothing... tada!! Atheist.


PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:22 pm


Interesting.

And regarding my last comment. I wan't trying to say that there is no room for spirituality in atheism. My comment was worded poorly as well as being influenced by an aquaintence with several very hard line athiests who believe that, not only is there no god, there is nothing beyond what can be seen and heard etc. Even those thought forms Simim mentioned would be denied by them.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:20 pm


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Interesting.

And regarding my last comment. I wan't trying to say that there is no room for spirituality in atheism. My comment was worded poorly as well as being influenced by an aquaintence with several very hard line athiests who believe that, not only is there no god, there is nothing beyond what can be seen and heard etc. Even those thought forms Simim mentioned would be denied by them.


There are Agnostic and Gnostic Atheists, just as there are Agnostic and Gnostic anything. There are also Alatrists, who don't worship anything.

I'd consider myself Agnostic, because I believe I don't really "know" that there are no gods, because really, all I'm doing is shifting terminology. I'm an Alatrist, because I worship nothing, and all Atheism essentially means is "no god" or "the lack of belief in a god/gods."

You, furthermore, can have rational and irrational Atheists, spiritual, and scientific Atheists, etc. While I adhere to scientific method with the majority of my endeavors, I also understand that science is an incomplete field, and that many metaphysical phenomena I undergo are merely unexplained... for now.

A lot of evangelical, die-hard, gnostic "science-minded" Atheists will just as easily deny the existence of anything as quickly as their opponents will accept anything. In that sense, many Atheists are just as bull-headed as they claim their "enemies" are.

In fact, a good portion of Atheists I've talked to will admit, through level conversation and/or rational debate, that we simply don't "know" anything yet. Those Atheists may continue to not believe in anything outside of science, but still acknowledge that there's things out there we don't know or haven't deduced theory for yet.

Nothing has ultimate power over humanity as a whole. The ultimate fact, I believe (which I haven't received any definite proof otherwise to contradict this) is that not one "God" out there can do a single thing to me if I choose not to believe in it.

Also, I really didn't see your post until just now. XD
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:00 pm


There's a saying I think you might like Simim. Magic is mearly science that we don't yet understand.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 6:05 pm


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There's a saying I think you might like Simim. Magic is mearly science that we don't yet understand.


I've heard it before, and yep. I like it. mrgreen
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:22 pm


Yeah, it's a fairly well known saying but it's still one of my favorites.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:38 pm


Perhaps these gods are an alien race and we are nothing more than carbon based life forms created by them to serve them.
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:49 am


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Perhaps these gods are an alien race and we are nothing more than carbon based life forms created by them to serve them.


sounds like Scientology to me smile

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:32 pm


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Sir Vincent
Perhaps these gods are an alien race and we are nothing more than carbon based life forms created by them to serve them.


sounds like Scientology to me smile
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