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 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:03 am
Commanderdom Takuha Commanderdom Roobarb I've never really understood the science behind what EXACTLY powers the TARDIS's but I was wondering about the end of the Time Wars. And also about the death of the Time Lords. Aside from anything else, is anyone REALLY dead when you're talking in terms of travelling in time? Especially Time Lords. Why can't the Doctor just travel back and see them? The only reason I can think for him not being able to is that they died in some way that either a) completely erased them from time (unlikely, I'm not sure the Doctor would still exist) or b) froze/locked them and Gallifrey in time so that no-one can get to them in any time. Would that make sense? i've heard the doctor said that he did go back in time and try stop the daleks another way but there was no other way then destroying everything i reckon the'yll go back to the time war in a doctor who episode soon enough he didn't say that did he*begins to exam episodes*no he never said that it in the 9th seires in the dalek episode im not sure thow im most probably wrong I think you mean the father's day episode, when he says the Doctor My whole family, my whole people are dead! You think it never occured to me to just go back and save them? Or something to that effect.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:46 am
Crumpet Lord Well i'm not sure how he burned them all up... I just assumed a box of matches and a TON of whisky. twisted But erm you can't time travel into the gallifreian system. You can't time travel at all in the Gallifrey system? I'm sure the Doctor could cheat. What time are you at then if you get there? (That question sounds a little confusing....) I must have missed the no time travel thing. Can someone explain it a bit more?
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:40 am
Roobarb Crumpet Lord Well i'm not sure how he burned them all up... I just assumed a box of matches and a TON of whisky. twisted But erm you can't time travel into the gallifreian system. You can't time travel at all in the Gallifrey system? I'm sure the Doctor could cheat. What time are you at then if you get there? (That question sounds a little confusing....) I must have missed the no time travel thing. Can someone explain it a bit more? see he's wrong about that because the doctor has travelled to Gallifrey loads of times and it's never been in a specific time period and theres no such thing as the "Gallifrey system"
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:18 pm
Well I knew Gallifrey had some sort of protection, Romana mentions it at the start of the Shada webcast saying that the Doctor broke through it to get there, but you're right, it can't be a time thing. The Doctor jumps back and forth there when he likes.
Going back to the Time Wars I seriously want to know what happened! And how the Daleks got powerful enough to wipe out a whole planet full of Time Lords (I mean c'mon, The Doctor is only one Time Lord and he's kicked their a** loads of times. Ace kicked their a** for gods sake...)
Also, on another point, The Doctor mentions being able to sense that the others are all dead and I know there is the whole psychic connection between Time Lords, but would this count when he goes back to a time when they ARE alive? I suppose that's going back to the issue of whether the Time Lords were wiped from history or not.... God I really want to know what happened!
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:21 am
If anyone doesn't know, in the Eight Doctor novel the Ancestor Cell the Doctor Destroys Gallifrey. This creates a sorta temporal storm around the Gallifrey time stream, making all of it completely shut off from the outside world, which is why the Doctor can't just go back in time. However, he does have the entire contents of the Matrix in his brain, so, technically the Tiem Lords have survived through him.
And, remember the story told in the Doctor Who Book - Monsters and Villians - on a monument a lone traveller finds the graffitti tag - "You are not alone" ......
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:36 am
Takuha Roobarb Crumpet Lord Well i'm not sure how he burned them all up... I just assumed a box of matches and a TON of whisky. twisted But erm you can't time travel into the gallifreian system. You can't time travel at all in the Gallifrey system? I'm sure the Doctor could cheat. What time are you at then if you get there? (That question sounds a little confusing....) I must have missed the no time travel thing. Can someone explain it a bit more? see he's wrong about that because the doctor has travelled to Gallifrey loads of times and it's never been in a specific time period and theres no such thing as the "Gallifrey system" When the Eighth doctor creates the temporal stasis storm, it shuts off all time travel to gallifrey from after it's created. And gallifrey is a planet, which orbits around a star. We don't know the name of this star, or any other planets in orbit around it, if indeed there are, therefore we must refer to it as what? THE GALLIFREY SYSTEM. Ergo, there is one.
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:15 am
I realise they didn't have much choice at the time but I really wish they hadn't explained all this stuff in the books. I never got into them until just recently and I'm so far behind. In my opinion they should have kept important stuff like that in the TV series itself.
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:38 am
I've only read 4 of the eight doctor books, I only know that piece of information through luck.
I have no idea why RTD used the whole Time War idea, but hopefully more will be learned in series 28. (or the new season 2 xp )
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:05 am
Does anyone think they'll bring the Timelords back? It's a bit silly just to lose them.
And I think they would seriously rock in the new series, with a whole freaky modern makeover like they did with the Doctor/TARDIS and everything else.
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:32 pm
Roobarb I realise they didn't have much choice at the time but I really wish they hadn't explained all this stuff in the books. I never got into them until just recently and I'm so far behind. In my opinion they should have kept important stuff like that in the TV series itself. don't worry your not alone I've never bothered to read the books either
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:18 am
Takuha Roobarb I realise they didn't have much choice at the time but I really wish they hadn't explained all this stuff in the books. I never got into them until just recently and I'm so far behind. In my opinion they should have kept important stuff like that in the TV series itself. don't wor From what I've read, the Eight Doctor books are heavily reliant upon people with massive Doctor Who continuity knowledge, and even then, the books raise more questions than they answer. This can be seen from reading the Gallifrey Chronicles, where Lance Parkin tries to tie everything up in one book.
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:56 am
Crumpet Lord Commanderdom Takuha Commanderdom Roobarb I've never really understood the science behind what EXACTLY powers the TARDIS's but I was wondering about the end of the Time Wars. And also about the death of the Time Lords. Aside from anything else, is anyone REALLY dead when you're talking in terms of travelling in time? Especially Time Lords. Why can't the Doctor just travel back and see them? The only reason I can think for him not being able to is that they died in some way that either a) completely erased them from time (unlikely, I'm not sure the Doctor would still exist) or b) froze/locked them and Gallifrey in time so that no-one can get to them in any time. Would that make sense? i've heard the doctor said that he did go back in time and try stop the daleks another way but there was no other way then destroying everything i reckon the'yll go back to the time war in a doctor who episode soon enough he didn't say that did he*begins to exam episodes*no he never said that it in the 9th seires in the dalek episode im not sure thow im most probably wrong I think you mean the father's day episode, when he says the Doctor My whole family, my whole people are dead! You think it never occured to me to just go back and save them? Or something to that effect. thats the one
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:58 am
i've heard that in the 10th doctors series he goes to a school and the headmaster is a timelord who neaver got involoved with the time war
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:28 pm
Commanderdom i've heard that in the 10th doctors series he goes to a school and the headmaster is a timelord who neaver got involoved with the time war Don't think he's a Time Lord, remember the Doctor saying he would know if there was another Time Lord alive? However, this would coincide with the graffiti on the monument story in the Monsters and Villains book. I very much doubt he will be a Time Lord though.
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:36 pm
Going off topic - but here is the episode details for School Reunion (don't see anythign about Time Lords crying )
SPOLIER WARNING!!!
Monsters - The Krillitane
- Take over a comprehensive school and use it as a cover to devour the pupils
- May have hypnotic control over the teachers and pupils
vestigate some nasty business, while in his office, Headmaster Finch says to The Doctor, "may I introduce Miss Sarah-Jane Smith" (who alsoIN BRIEF
"The Doctor is reunited with old friends Sarah Jane Smith and K9 at a mysterious school overrun by the evil Krillitanes and their Headmaster." - Outpost Gallifrey front page
STORY DETAILS
Features Liz Sladen as Sarah-Jane Smith, John Leeson as (a rather worn-down) K-9, and Anthony Stewart Head as Headmaster Finch. Set at a modern comprehensive school; speculation says the the Doctor is working undercover to in appears to be undercover). It also concerns the rivalry between Rose and Sarah Jane, who according to Billie Piper "hate each other". The bitching will rival Dynasty according to RTD.
The plot supposedly involves a Krillitane being disguised as the school's headmaster and children at computer terminals. Krillitanes can shape-change. A shot taken from the "Coming Soon" montage at the end of The Christmas Invasion (showing Anthony Head with "evil" prosthetics and facial expression) would seem to corroborate this.
(Taken from Outpost Gallifrey)
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