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Chasing Sirens

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 4:36 am


I should say that eating disorders are mental disorders. I have a Bulimic friend, and I am classified by my friends as anorexic. I've gone 5 days without eating once, and I've lost over thirty pounds. I'm weak and I shake a lot, and I'm also constantly out of breath because I also over- excersize. I'm trying to quit, though.
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:40 pm


ED is pretty much mental. i am considered by my friends as anorexic. but i sway between the two. cause i have gone 6 1/2 days w/out eating and i lost alot of weight. then i will just eat and eat like there is no tomorrow. so my weight is never the same for so long. like when i hit 100 i freaked and lost 15lbs in a week and was back to 85...then i gained it back the next week. but the weird thing is i've never gone over 110lbs. and i dont want to kno how low ive gone....probably down to at least 65-70lbs. and im 5ft 2.5inches. so thats pretty bad....but yeah...

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 12:01 am


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Overeating is not currently considered an eating disorder, as far as I know. If there's any mental component involved, it is usually a symptom of another disorder. It's kind of interesting to compare with anorexia and how we perceive ED.


Compulsive overeating is, in fact, an ED. smile


Is it a specific ED with a label in the US? Because I'm not finding it in the DSM-IV-TR. Tell me more! What diagnostic manual describes it?
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:33 am


i had ED-NOS. i conquered it after more than two years...

it was tied down to my depression although now i have a habit of binging whenever i'm upset. food i comfort somehow...

i know it's not good for the body and all but i can't help it especailly since i have a high metabolic rate. i'm thin, slightly underweight by normal health standards.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:16 pm


Anorexia and Boulimia are Obsessive-Compulsive disorders. So yea, In my mind, Anorexia and Boulimia are definitely mentals disorders.

And, usually, someone who have anorexia or boulimia also have another mental illness such as depression.

I have Boulimia/Anorexia, and that probably have something to go with the fact that I have a borderline personality disorder.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:58 am


i have been diagnosed with eating disorder nos which for my case basically means that i will intentionally not eat food or purge what little food i do allow myself to eat or take pills to make me purge BUT i do not loose enough wait to be considered anorexic, i do NOT do it becuz i feel that i am too fat or fat even, i do it to punish myself becuz i get to points were i feel that i do not deserve to have food becuz i hate myself do much

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:43 pm


It's a completely mental thing. You have to train yourself not to eat. I first started less than a year ago and the first day is really hard, but after a week, it's like you're sucked in. I've dealt with various eating disorders all my life, whether it be eating too much or not enough, and the mental thing about it is that your hunger center isn't in control, the concious is, so the person ultimately becomes obsessed with what they hate: food. So it's either hunger-center-go-crazy-eat-lots-of-food-yum-yum-yum or let your concious mind slowly drive you mad with constant thoughts of urge restraint. It's not a pretty situation, but as the media tells us, "nothing tastes as good as thin feels".
PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:51 pm


I've got undiagnosed ED-NOS...*sighs* It really sucks. It comes on and off...counting calories, over exercising, obsession about weight...*sighs*

I think it's a mental thing. You count calories. It's almost like OCD...the rituals and such. o.o;;;

I'm not sure what else to say. Ugh.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:56 pm


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I've got undiagnosed ED-NOS...*sighs* It really sucks. It comes on and off...counting calories, over exercising, obsession about weight...*sighs*

I think it's a mental thing. You count calories. It's almost like OCD...the rituals and such. o.o;;;

I'm not sure what else to say. Ugh.
it is so much like my OCD...i have a counting aspect w/OCD...i count everything...i also want to idk, i guess u could call it "beat" myself...like if i am on an exercise machine, i watch the calories burned/distance and want to "beat" my last numbers if u know what i mean
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:18 pm


I've been a compulsive overeater most of my life, though when I was 8 I went through a little thing where I wouldn't eat. When food was forced on me, I kept it in the back of my mouth and spat it out later, because I was too afraid to make myself throw up. I read all of these books about growing up and being a teenager, and they talked about eating disorders, and I thought I was just taking the easy version.

My mom made me start eating again, and after a while I realized what a stupid thing I'd been doing. Being only 9 at the time, I thought I should /start/ eating. And eat I did. I'd go home and have two or three slices of cake, some crackers, then clear my plate at dinner. By the time I turned 13 I was eating three servings of everything at dinner, half a bag of crackers as a snack, and could eat four hash browns, cereal, and bacon for breakfast.

At the same time, I was rather pudgy. Not fat, I was only 130 pounds and 5 feet tall, but I was pudgy and I knew it. I spent hours every day agonizing about how I could lose weight fast, and looking in the mirror at the worst angle on purpose, just to look at my rolls of fat, as some form of inspiration for weight loss. What the Hell I was thinking at the time is beyond me. I got freaked out, because all of my life I'd been skinny, so I ate. And ate.

After a while I realized, yes, this was slow, that my eating was what was causing the problem. I went on a very easy diet at the start of eighth grade, and got down to 125 pounds. I was still pudgy, though, and so I got depressed and overate again. This happened over and over again until this past February, when I decided to do the healthy thing and join a gym. I'm now down to 114, but I haven't been to the gym in a while and most of my weight is flab. I'm still working on getting thinner, and right now I'm kind of depressed. I keep on binging and I want to stop, but I don't have any form of support. That's what I came to this group for.

For me it's either diet like mad, or binge. And I know that's not a good cycle, but I don't know how to break it.


Right now I feel so ******** fat.
I hate it.
I ate 9 cookies.
And then dinner.
Before that, I had a bagel and a shitload of rice puffs.
Daily calorie count : Probably near 2000

I've been following the first-week part of the Curves diet. My personal limmit is 1000 calories a day. I don't get much exercize; I've gone on 500 calories a day before and felt fine.

I'm gonna quit whining and go do some situps now.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:26 pm


drowning_ophelia6
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I've got undiagnosed ED-NOS...*sighs* It really sucks. It comes on and off...counting calories, over exercising, obsession about weight...*sighs*

I think it's a mental thing. You count calories. It's almost like OCD...the rituals and such. o.o;;;

I'm not sure what else to say. Ugh.
it is so much like my OCD...i have a counting aspect w/OCD...i count everything...i also want to idk, i guess u could call it "beat" myself...like if i am on an exercise machine, i watch the calories burned/distance and want to "beat" my last numbers if u know what i mean


I do that all of the time! I mean, counting things. Like pyramids. Even when working out. I don't count like normal numbers, I use

1
1-1
1-1-1
1-1-1-1
1-1-1-1-1

It's confusing, but I count one, then two, then three, then four, then five, and in my mind I count it like blocks on a pyramid. 15 to a pyramid. 5+4+3+2+1=15. In the back of my mind I keep the images of how many pyramids I've done, and when, for example, I count 4 pyramids, I know I've done 60 sit-ups or whatever.

>_>;;

That is so confusing to explain, but in my mind it is disturbingly obvious and simple.

About the 'beat'ing thing. I'm kind of like that, except its more about symmetry. Even when going down stairs. If I'm standing at the top of stairs, I step down with my right foot. When I get to the bottom, if my right foot is on the stair, I step down with my left. If my left foot is on the stair, I hop down, hitting both at the same time, then take a step with my left foot. The number of steps is always even. If it isn't, I'll skip to make sure it is.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:30 am


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I should say that eating disorders are mental disorders. I have a Bulimic friend, and I am classified by my friends as anorexic. I've gone 5 days without eating once, and I've lost over thirty pounds. I'm weak and I shake a lot, and I'm also constantly out of breath because I also over- excersize. I'm trying to quit, though.


You lost over 30lbs in 5 days? That's impossible.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:54 pm


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I should say that eating disorders are mental disorders. I have a Bulimic friend, and I am classified by my friends as anorexic. I've gone 5 days without eating once, and I've lost over thirty pounds. I'm weak and I shake a lot, and I'm also constantly out of breath because I also over- excersize. I'm trying to quit, though.


You lost over 30lbs in 5 days? That's impossible.
It is possible depending on what kind of weight you lose. theoretically, if you eat and drink minimally for 5 days, you can lose that much if the initial weight was things like waterweirght...I've known friends who will run with a snow jacket and 6 pairs of pants on to sweat off as much water as possible in order to keep in a certain weight. That can shed 6 pounds or so in a day along with other forms of excersize and dieting.

6 pounds a day x 5 days = 30 pounds

Then again, this isn't like, clinical studies, just theory and a bit of personal experience

On topic: I do think that EDs are mental, because although I don't have one, I know in the deeper parts of my depression I'll starve myself because I feel I don't deserve to eat or that I'll be hat much closer to dying. Once, I didn't eat for the whole day and I would have thrown up if I actually had something in my stomach...I ended up being force-fed graham crackers by my bf before I could even get up...in any case, since I feel that such activities are closely linked to depression, anxiety, paranoia, and OCD, all of which are major mental problems.

On the other side, there is obviously a behavioural aspect to it since it is a more physical manifestation of those kinds of mental disorders than other symptoms. If I even understood better my own manifestation I'd probably give you a better answer, but I can't...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:27 am


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I should say that eating disorders are mental disorders. I have a Bulimic friend, and I am classified by my friends as anorexic. I've gone 5 days without eating once, and I've lost over thirty pounds. I'm weak and I shake a lot, and I'm also constantly out of breath because I also over- excersize. I'm trying to quit, though.


Good luck with quitting smile

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:23 am


Does this irritate anyone else?

Okay, I'm underweight and diagnosed with anorexia nervosa, restricting type. And yes, I used to fit the stereotype completely...but now, not at all. I'd definitely say I'm bulimic. But as my BMI's below 17.5, I'd be diagnosed with purging anorexia (I'm not though, still restrcting type. Kind of haven't gotten round to telling my doctors about the binging and purging. Though they have suspicious, what with my glands being abnormally swollen right now). I don't get it, sorry - I eat LOADS of calories, every day then puke. I'm bulimic. Purging anorexia...nah - just seems like eating an apple then throwing it up. Bulimia is what I have right now, not anorexia. And I would be diagnosed with bulimia nervosa (if they knew about the b/ping), if my BMI was 17.6...but as it's not, I'm not.
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