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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:53 pm
Lita_Concord Diamanta Kalile Alako If it is at all, I repeat, at all possible, get a teacher. I moved from V1, the lowest level at LVA, to V3 within a year of taking my first private lesson. That's an amazing transition, almost unheard of. (Well, ok, not exactly, but it doesn't happen very often) It meant that I didn't have to teach myself anymore. And I had other music to practice and get better at, and the full attention of a professional for a full forty-five minutes to an hour. Private lessons are the best thing you can ever do for yourself, especially if you're going to make a career out of it. Sadly, all three or so of the violin teachers in Mississippi probably reside in Jackson, which is several hours away from where I live. xp There have to be more than 3 violin teachers in Mississippi...if there are 15 in the state of Alaska I have to think there are more where you live. ^_^ they just like to hide. Ha, but you've never been in the middle of no where before! I'm in a location that is far away from all the nearby big cities! xp And beside... I'm kinda homeschooled and thus don't really think that you need a teacher to learn things... >.>; Plus since I'm homeschooled I'm shy. Yup. I may be as blunt and loud as can be on the internet but I'm sure I'm shy in rl. Yup. *nod* XP
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:06 pm
No, seriously, you *need* a teacher. I don't care how good you are, you will be a hundred times better within just a few weeks. If there is any way you can find one AT ALL, get one.
Of course... if you're not planning on being a professional violinist, then don't pay a whole bunch of money for a teacher; you can get by just fine without one. But I'm telling you, it makes an amazing amount of difference. Again, I taught myself how to tune, vibrato, string an instrument, shift into third position... everything I really needed to know at the time. My teacher hasn't really even taught me anything. I learned how to shift past third position because I was working with him on an audition piece with really high notes, and he assumed I already could shift. He told me to play it, and to get it in tune, and it never occurred to me to tell him I didn't know how.
So a teacher probably won't make any shocking relavations to your life. Mine never explains anything. But I've improved so much... everyone, my teachers, my friends, my stand partner have all commented on how much better I sound. Just by having a 45-minute lesson once a week.
*end long, pointless ramble* sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:11 am
Kalile Alako No, seriously, you *need* a teacher. I don't care how good you are, you will be a hundred times better within just a few weeks. If there is any way you can find one AT ALL, get one. Of course... if you're not planning on being a professional violinist, then don't pay a whole bunch of money for a teacher; you can get by just fine without one. But I'm telling you, it makes an amazing amount of difference. Again, I taught myself how to tune, vibrato, string an instrument, shift into third position... everything I really needed to know at the time. My teacher hasn't really even taught me anything. I learned how to shift past third position because I was working with him on an audition piece with really high notes, and he assumed I already could shift. He told me to play it, and to get it in tune, and it never occurred to me to tell him I didn't know how. So a teacher probably won't make any shocking relavations to your life. Mine never explains anything. But I've improved so much... everyone, my teachers, my friends, my stand partner have all commented on how much better I sound. Just by having a 45-minute lesson once a week. *end long, pointless ramble* sweatdrop Well, first of all, I'm not planning on going into violin professionally. It's really just a hobbie I wish to get good at. 3nodding First you say that I "*need* a teacher," and a teacher will help me get "a hundred times better within just a few weeks." Then you say that "you can get by just fine without one" and " o a teacher probably won't make any shocking relavations to your life. Mine never explains anything." Could you elaborate? I'm kind of confused... sweatdrop
Also, I have several reasons to not get a teacher. The nearest teacher IS forty-five minutes away at the closest. You have to take in mind the gas used in a ninety minute drive. Plus a ninety minute drive for only a forty five minute lesson. Then there's the average price of a teacher (I looked on the internet): one site said $50/month, a half an hour a week and private one time coaching is $50/hour. So that's a ninety minute drive plus the gas price along with the $50 price tag. All for a person who isn't planning on going professional. It's very hard for me to think it's worth it with all of that going against it.
I respect your opinion, but what can I say, I'm a skeptic.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:26 pm
Well, like I said, it's probably not worth getting a teacher even in the best of circumstances if you're not planning on going proffessional. That's what I meant by "you can get by just fine without one." You probably won't become a virtuoso, but that doesn't really matter if your violin is not going to be your main source of income.
What I meant when I said that my teacher never explains anything is that I'm not even sure why a teacher is so much help... I guess it's just something about having someone's whole attention for however long your lesson is. With my teacher, the learning process happens without me really noticing it. Maybe I'm just not observant enough, or maybe he's sneaky in his teaching methods. Those sneaky Bulgarians! xd I mean absolutely no offense to anyone of Bulgarian nationality, ancestry, or descent. Ivo, my teacher, is Bulgarian; speaks with a thick accent, and is a wonderful violinist. I love Bulgarians.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:45 am
well, do you know any one else who plays violin that lives near you? I didn't have a violin teacher for about 3 months (her son broke his leg so no lessons) and I ended up relying on one of my school chaps who had been playing for longer than I had to listen to me play on occasion and make corrections with my hands and other things. Having a teacher is a great thing I think, but if you can't get one then maybe just finding someone who would be willing to help you with the simple stuff would work.
and yes, I do know what its like to live in the middle of nowhere. I live in the "Valley" up here in AK the closet city is 50 miles away and I average a 30 minute drive from my house to the nearest form of civilization. blaugh
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:26 pm
Just to put it simply, I just don't think a teacher is neccessary. I don't think everyone shouldn't have one. I just don't think everone has to have one. That's all. ^^ Lita_Concord Having a teacher is a great thing I think, but if you can't get one then maybe just finding someone who would be willing to help you with the simple stuff would work. What about mirrors? xp
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:51 pm
Perhaps slapping your hands, a weird conditiong method could help, but if that doesn't, meditate. And maybe pressing the bow down onto the string (bow into the string), maybe that will help. I find that my nerves, which is extreme, give me great everlasting vibrato. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:45 pm
Hye-sang Perhaps slapping your hands, a weird conditiong method could help, but if that doesn't, meditate. And maybe pressing the bow down onto the string (bow into the string), maybe that will help. I find that my nerves, which is extreme, give me great everlasting vibrato. sweatdrop Lol, well, at least you get vibrato out of the deal. xd Oom! Meditation! whee whee whee Hehe, thanks, that slapping hand thingy sounds cool. whee heart
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:28 pm
Diamanta Lol, well, at least you get vibrato out of the deal. xd Oom! Meditation! whee whee whee Hehe, thanks, that slapping hand thingy sounds cool. whee heart Don't get me wrong, though. You just want to slap your hands so that and shaking goes away (if at all). Like before I have to speak in front of class or something, I slap my cheek. Crazy and maniacal-sounding, but it helps. Me, anyway. neutral So, yeah. At least I get goo vibrato out of it. mrgreen
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:08 pm
Heh. I almost started crying in the middle of my most recent jury... I thought I had gotten over my stage fright somewhat, and I knew that I was really prepared and psyched up and stuff, but my legs started shaking and I seriously almost cried in front of the whole class... vibrato was ok, but my hand wasn't strong enough to control the bow. What a fiasco... it's not like Mozart's Third is even that difficult. domokun
Hand slapping... interesting. I'll have to try that. My orchestra teacher had an odd tip for sweaty hands: she told us to use antiperspirant! She said that we'd have to experiment, because too little doesn't work and too much makes your hands over dry and screws you up. But you're supposed to put antiperspirant all over your hands up to the forearms and wash it off. Then enough will stay to make your hands not sweat, but not be all powdery when you play.
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:10 am
Hye-sang Diamanta Lol, well, at least you get vibrato out of the deal. xd Oom! Meditation! whee whee whee Hehe, thanks, that slapping hand thingy sounds cool. whee heart Don't get me wrong, though. You just want to slap your hands so that and shaking goes away (if at all). Like before I have to speak in front of class or something, I slap my cheek. Crazy and maniacal-sounding, but it helps. Me, anyway. neutral So, yeah. At least I get goo vibrato out of it. mrgreen Lol, maniacal is good. whee Kalile Alako: Antiperspirant... for your hands... never thought about that. xd
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:15 pm
I'm not sure that I would take her word for it... she's a hopelessly incompetent teacher. Then again, she's a great violinist... she's not in the Las Vegas Philharmonic, but only because she's too busy being hired by hotels to regularly make it to practices. So maybe... try at your own risk, though. neutral
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:04 am
Kalile Alako I'm not sure that I would take her word for it... she's a hopelessly incompetent teacher. Then again, she's a great violinist... she's not in the Las Vegas Philharmonic, but only because she's too busy being hired by hotels to regularly make it to practices. So maybe... try at your own risk, though. neutral Oh, those are the worst. The good violinists but sucky teachary skills. Blech! domokun
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:20 pm
Well your left hand should be shaking in the first place...that's vibrato. But if your right hand is shaky, then change your bow speed. You're probably moving the bow too slowly. Don't be afraid to speed up the bow and put more pressure on it, because there are ways of doing that without making the sound louder. Keep the muscles of your right arm more relaxed, too, because that will make it easier to keep control.
If you're shaking because you're performing and nervous, then make sure you go to the bathroom beforehand. And also practice in front of people more, because then you'll be more used to other people listening. I used to get stomachaches when I was little, usually starting a couple minutes before I was on stage, but once I started performing every week I don't even get nervous anymore.
Also, if your hands are sweaty, but baking soda on them. They use it a lot in deodorants to stop sweating. Putting deodorant on your hands can work, but in my case it makes my hands kinda slimy once I've been playing for 5 minutes.
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:47 am
I see, thanks! whee heart
Edit: ^okay, that was a rudely short post compared the nice long post you made so... thanks a lot! whee heart
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