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| self harm |
| i am a self harmer |
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| i am NOT a self harmer |
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| i do not self harm but i know others who do |
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| i don't know what self harm is |
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 Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:20 pm
barbsy what annoys me these days is that we have been given a bad reputation by a bunch of crowd following teeny boppers who think its cool to cut...it takes the focus of the real problem I think they might be the ones with the larger problem: conformists syndrome. Whoever thinks SI is call is out of their mind. Whoever does it to be accepted amongst a group or looked at as the "sad mysterious" person is just plain sick. I think they need more help than the honest-to-goodness SIers in the world. At least we know how to take care of ourselves afterwards.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:07 pm
I've been cutting--self injuring- for about two years, and only a select number of people know. My parents/family ignores it 'cause they think I've stopped, and my friends don't mention it at all. So I guess it's good...to a point.
What really pisses me off is people who assume that we all do it for attention or it is a suicide attempt. Plus these people won't listen to us, claim they are right, and if we give them links to educational sites that won't go to them.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:25 pm
Silversan I've been cutting--self injuring- for about two years, and only a select number of people know. My parents/family ignores it 'cause they think I've stopped, and my friends don't mention it at all. So I guess it's good...to a point. What really pisses me off is people who assume that we all do it for attention or it is a suicide attempt. Plus these people won't listen to us, claim they are right, and if we give them links to educational sites that won't go to them. there isnt enough research about SI out there...people are scared of the truth. If anything SI stops us from committing suicide... we are not crazy we are not attention seekers its hard to get help when no one wants to hear about it... in the end i will say this... AS SI'ERS WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE BUT WE HAVE A COMMON LINK...WE ARE BOUND BY WHAT WE DO WE ARE BOUND BY SI...WHEN SOCIETY TURNS US INTO OUTCASTS AND CALLS US FREAKS AND ATTENTION SEEKERS...WHEN WE FEEL THAT NO ONE ELSE CARES...NO ONE WANTS TO HELP YOU...THAT YOU CANT DEAL ANYMORE...NO ONE HEARS YOUR CRIES FOR HELP...THINK AGAIN...IN THE END WE HAVE EACH OTHER...WE NEED EACH OTHER...AND TOGETHER WE CAN GET THROUGH IT ALL
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:28 pm
barbsy SI is a serious mental problem associated with high levels of stress, anxiety and depression...IT IS NOT A FAD OR A WAY TO GET ATTENTION. I beg to differ. Cutting can be an outward cry for help if there is another internal problem that isn't being assesed, and no one seems to care. Cutting can be a way to get attention, to beg when there is no other option.
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:27 am
ShandieAlexandra barbsy SI is a serious mental problem associated with high levels of stress, anxiety and depression...IT IS NOT A FAD OR A WAY TO GET ATTENTION. I beg to differ. Cutting can be an outward cry for help if there is another internal problem that isn't being assesed, and no one seems to care. Cutting can be a way to get attention, to beg when there is no other option. what i meant is its not attention seeking just cos ur getting ignored like certain lil teenagers have done... yes i agree it can be a cry for help when there is a psychological problem...pain and fear and anger and helplessness...there are many instances that kids use cutting as a way to get pure attention...get what they want not because they are in need of help and have no other way of expressing...there are kids out there that cut and the very next day they show off their wounds to their friends thinkking its really cool... cutters who do it for help dont necessarily show everyone...its a cry for help show those cuts to people u trust...professionals etc people who can help you...not just any random that comes along so you can show off is that a bit more clear hun?
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:02 pm
barbsy one thing that annoys me is that ppl often think that only cuttin is a self injury or self harm behaviour... i didnt cut til last year but i've been a self harmer for half my life if not longer Wow! I'm not alone on that. I used to hit my head on a wall. I have decided I will only do that if all the sides of my mind are screaming at each other and I won't do it hard. And I have kept to this. But people always talk about self-injury but only cutting, while I have only once cut myself, so it felt like I wasn't welcome because I was a freak even among the freaks that hurt themselves. sweatdrop And as for the attention thing, 1 in my little survey of 40 did it for attention. But still, don't you think it's a little messed up? I mean, do you think someone in their right mind would split open their own flesh just to get attention? I don't.
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:19 pm
M is for M+Ms barbsy one thing that annoys me is that ppl often think that only cuttin is a self injury or self harm behaviour... i didnt cut til last year but i've been a self harmer for half my life if not longer Wow! I'm not alone on that. I used to hit my head on a wall. I have decided I will only do that if all the sides of my mind are screaming at each other and I won't do it hard. And I have kept to this. But people always talk about self-injury but only cutting, while I have only once cut myself, so it felt like I wasn't welcome because I was a freak even among the freaks that hurt themselves. sweatdrop And as for the attention thing, 1 in my little survey of 40 did it for attention. But still, don't you think it's a little messed up? I mean, do you think someone in their right mind would split open their own flesh just to get attention? I don't. indeed but like i said before SI is typically a symptom of anxiety and depression and other depressive illnesses... there are masochists out there..they love to cut they love the pain... then theres other behaviours that can also cause someone to cut... unfortunately for people who are tryin to understand this a bit more those other conditions get mixed up with SI and it gives way to alot of myths about the condition
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:43 am
Eek! 10 out of 13 people who voted are SI-ers! Though I suppose they're the ones more likely to look at this topic.
This is odd, but I've only recently realised I'm a self-harmer. I learnt that anything you do to release/help with emotions that leaves a mark for more than an hour counts as self injury. Considering I still have a faint mark from what I did yesterday when was scared (scratched at my hand along one line repetitively), I suppose I am a self-harmer.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:13 am
In that case, I suppose I used to self-harm, as well. As a kid, when I used to bite. Now, I'm not sure if the nail-digging thing or light scratching thing counts. I am not entirely sure why I do it, it makes me feel more "awake" and helps me get a grip on my body sometimes, which makes me think it may be a self-stimulatory thing, like rocking.
Here's another question: Is there a difference between self-harm and self-injury, or are the terms completely interchangeable?
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:06 pm
They're used interchangeably on Gaia, though I'm not sure if they're two different terms.
I found someone else in my school who is an SIer! I've known her for so long, but I didn't know. I know she has been hospitalized in the past, and that she has some problems, but I had no idea she SIed. I saw her wrist today, and that's how I knew. I was reading this thing to her and it said something like "If your child cuts, burns, or partakes in anything like these behaviors, get them to a hospital immediately." Well, then she said, "Done that, didn't help." And I just kinda looked at her, and she showed me her wrist. Just some faint scars but it was enough to see. I just can't believe I found someone else. Especially where I live....
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:25 pm
Civet Moon In that case, I suppose I used to self-harm, as well. As a kid, when I used to bite. Now, I'm not sure if the nail-digging thing or light scratching thing counts. I am not entirely sure why I do it, it makes me feel more "awake" and helps me get a grip on my body sometimes, which makes me think it may be a self-stimulatory thing, like rocking. Here's another question: Is there a difference between self-harm and self-injury, or are the terms completely interchangeable? You did it to get rid of bad emotions? I bit my arms when I was a kid and so did this other kid I knew, but we just did it because it was fun. Then my mum found out and got really freaked out so I stoppped. Ares - I think they are interchangeable. Though, logically, 'harm' is not as serious as 'injury' which is not as serious as 'mutilation', so attaching self to them should follow the same pattern. But it doesn't seem to work that way. As for that thing you were reading, holy cow! What about... oh, I don't know... TALKING TO YOUR CHILD???? But now, just grab them by the wrist and drag them to a mental ward, that's certain to make them feel better. gonk I don't really understand why you are happy about finding someone else with the same problem, but I suppose you could help each other and support each other in trying to stop.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:37 pm
I'm not happy to find them, I just didn't think there was another person. I'm more surprised than actually happy. I'm not happy that they SI, just surprised that they do. I know I shouldn't generalize that situation. Just because of where I live doesn't mean that other people can't SI around here. Yeah, I get that. But, I mean, I actually met someone else. I've never met another SIer in person. Just on Gaia....
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:45 pm
Ares I'm not happy to find them, I just didn't think there was another person. I'm more surprised than actually happy. I'm not happy that they SI, just surprised that they do. I know I shouldn't generalize that situation. Just because of where I live doesn't mean that other people can't SI around here. Yeah, I get that. But, I mean, I actually met someone else. I've never met another SIer in person. Just on Gaia.... What sort of place do you live in? I understand better now. My friend SIed before I did, so I don't feel alone with it. Although I do sometimes feel like I'm a 'freak amongst freaks' because I don't cut myself.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:36 pm
I'd answer the poll, but I *used* to be a self-harmer, I don't do it anymore. Maybe you should add that option?
And when I did it, I got the "OMG WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL YOURSELF!?!?" questions from shrinks, too. All that did was make them lose credibility, as I'd keep trying to explain that I wasn't, and (surprise!) they wouldn't listen. My self-harm was pretty much limited to razor blades or xacto knives on my arms, but I also sniffed nail polish and took some of my mom's pills on a few occasions, not knowing what, if anything, they'd do to me. One time I got caught and had to drink charcoal...yEEEash...funny thing was, knowing what I know now as a pharmacy tech, they wouldn't have done much of anything.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:47 pm
barbsy cutters who do it for help dont necessarily show everyone...its a cry for help show those cuts to people u trust...professionals etc people who can help you...not just any random that comes along so you can show off Yeah, in my case I'd tell shrinks if they asked, and I'd sort of "fake" hiding it from my parents and my friends--I kind of wanted them to notice, but kind of didn't--weird how that works. If someone who wasn't close to me asked, I'd lie, though I remember telling this one loud obnoxious preppy girl, probably just because I wanted to scare her, lol. They already thought I was a freak anyways...
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