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But surely that's perfectly normal behaviour for exciting action hero type people like Jack. Anyway, how else is he supposed to make that coat flutter and billow properly? Those things are heavy, and it takes a good bit of wind to really get any kind of dramatic billowing from them. I speak from bitter experience.

It was alright, but running storylines about murder and sex and throwing liberal swearwords into the mix (as well as trademark RTD references to homosexuality every five minutes rolleyes ) does not a good series make. Especially when the sets are so wobbly.

The X-Files worked because it was mature enough to realise people aren't going to be insulted if you don't give them sensationalism every week. Torchwood needs to grow up a bit. I found it especially irresponsible since you just know, despite the forewarnings, about a billion five year olds were watching it on launch night.

I did like the pavement lift though, and the glove idea. And Gwen's pretty hot for someone who lives in Wales.

Yatosh or whatever his name just has to be a robot, as well. The guy worries me.

Oh, and I'm back in the building by the way. Fear my wrath mad

Here is a post I posted in another forum Monday morning.

One thing that I was also a little confused by in the first episodes was Torchwood's actual role in the world. They spent a lot of time telling us they were above such and such an organisation and secret this and conspiracy that but apparently the army and the police know them at least in some capacity (the former even acknowledged the name of the organisation, though I doubt they really know anything about it). So they've dealt with them before, but then Jack starts going on about how they're independent and don't get involved in official business because, to be blunt, it's not their problem. So why set themselves up in this weird quasi-official capacity if they're not actually there to help? And why go to such lengths to hide themselves from Joe public when everyone and his mother in the social sector already knows who they are anyway? It's a little confused if you ask me <.< Especially if people keep dying on them and they have to replace them. They've probably been through half the population of Cardiff alone already by now.

Also, what was the point of telling Gwen to go home and have a life outside work when you're just going to frigging text her at three in the morning to some look at meteorites? Either you're allowed to have a life outside of work, or you're not. And if you're not shame on Jack for encouraging her to do something she probably won't be able to. And why in St.Swithins name did she have to kiss him??? Granted it was on the cheek, and granted he's a certifiable dreamboat but...she's in a nice, normal relationship dammit! And appparently this isn't grown-up Doctor Who >.>

At the moment I like it as a curiosity, but I'm dubious as to whether it has the legs to last more than a series or two. Will anyone *really* be interested once they reveal Jack's 'secret'?

Oh my GOD I LOVED IT!

Seriously. LOVED it. Just... just... freakin' WOW.

The immortal thing was SPOILED for me before the show, even though I went on a website that promised to not put any really big spoilers on the front page. *sighs loudly*

But it was awesome! I love Jack even more. I didn't think that was possible. I still haven't seen the second one, though. S'not on youtube yet.

Not sure if you noticed, but she kisseed Jack because he saved her life.

He was the one that dropped that portable force feild thingy and trapped the critter when it was coming to invade her body.

I'd have done a lot more then kiss him if he'd saved my life.

Totally loved the scene with them all sitting around the table eating and dicussing the mystery that is Jack Harkness.

"He'll shag anything if its goregous enough." Ah yes, that is why I love Jack.

Okay, just watched the second one. The sex scene was meh. I'm sorry, but this is getting pathetic for me. It didn't even bother me. Am I really that desensitized? Seriously? Because I'm not even 15 yet. >>; And no, I wasn't all 'OMGSEX'. My response was meh. Now the fact that the guy had been watching it, well, I found funny. But the actual scene I could have done without. Anyways...

Jack's obsessed with the hand. I wonder why... and I'm sure we're going to find out. biggrin

I'm loving this show more and more and more. Jettrick, the bit about only under 16 year olds loving it I disagree with. It's not an immature show. I know it seems as if I really can't talk about this because I'm under 16 (you can tell me to shut up now and ignore this next bit if you feel that way), but I think you're wrong. The action in it is the kind of younger, fast paced stuff... but the themes are above the heads of many of my peers. And I say peers grudgingly. I'm stuck with a bunch of asses in my school. But that's besides the point. What I'm trying to say is that it's not a kid's show. And it's not because of the sex, gore, cussing, etc. Kids my age (at least in the US) get that stuff as soon as they enter school. And yes, I mean kindergarten. The actual themes are emotional ones, themes that are all about the characters. I think that's what appeals to me so much about DW and TW. It's about the characters, not just the plot. The actual characters are more mature. Definintley mature enough for adults, not just teens.