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Vampires: Are they real?
Yes!!!!!!
36%
 36%  [ 16 ]
Well not in the way Hollywood portrays them
45%
 45%  [ 20 ]
I donno
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Whatever
6%
 6%  [ 3 ]
Hell No!!!!!
6%
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Total Votes : 44


Ebony_Wings

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:16 pm


I won't drink blood unless I like cut my finger and suck on it to get it to stop bleeding. It doesn't taste awful, but the idea is sickening to me. My brother actually says "yum!" when he cuts his finger and sucks on it, but I think that's kinda gross. Pretty much, I don't truly believe in vampires. I believe there are people out there who like the taste of blood (like my bro) or don't mind it (like me) and don't like sunlight. That doesn't make them vampires though. They're still human, and though they may like blood but they don't need it to survive.

Okay, just my 2 cents... xd
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:27 pm


Marylin~mansoN
of coarse vampires r real
im one and im gonna make my gf one

Rock on my sweet twisted

pandorina
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MithrilRethan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:52 pm


I don't believe in god, therefore to me there is no heaven. And if there is no heaven, there sure isn't a Hell. If theres no hell, there's most likely no vampires either. so no.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:14 pm


Alot of discussion here! Good, good! As for me, well... it's a complicated tale...

The message delves deeper in reality than I have room for, so I'll sum-up my stance: Vampires are real. They amongst us, and they live in shadow. Some may kill, others may not. If there is a killer, I'm sure their old enough to get away with it. Enough "evil" exists in the world as is, who's not to say something else wanders it as well, and may at times even use it as a cover?

As for the symptoms, it's true that there are many diseases and such that have been linked with Vampirism, but that does not mean Vampires do not exist-- it simply means that the condition was not well-known enough to warrant belief in anything else. Think about it: do you really think humans exist alone?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:19 pm


MithrilRethan
I don't believe in god, therefore to me there is no heaven. And if there is no heaven, there sure isn't a Hell. If theres no hell, there's most likely no vampires either. so no.


thats like realism vs the absurd

anyway i just enjoyed blood like i said before but im not going to kill people for that ^^""
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:24 pm


I think you are just roleplaying o_O

MithrilRethan


Ebony_Wings

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:47 pm


Yami_no_tengoku
Think about it: do you really think humans exist alone?


Yes and no. I believe humans are the only beings like us on earth. Try to fit vampires into evolution with Austrolapithicines and Neanderthals and Homo Sapieans. (great now I'm gonna start a evolution discussion... stare ) Anyway, perhaps on other planets there are creatures that suck their peer's blood, but how can you reason that we are not alone on earth? How could a different species that looks and acts pretty much like us come into existance at the same time we did? In my opinion, if there are vampires, they are simply human beings with a liking of blood, and pehaps a dislike of sunlight, not a different species, nor a different creature. Just a different personality.

O.o this is gonna be a controversial post... vampires, aliens, and evolution all at once... talk about debate... xd
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:51 pm


Yami_no_tengoku
Think about it: do you really think humans exist alone?


No, it's quite obvious we share the planet with billions of other organisms; everything from ebola to sperm whales. The universe is full of so many natural wonders and mysteries that it's quite frankly pure ignorance that makes people ask stupid questions like this.

From a purely scientific perspective, the likleyhood that vampirism lies undescovered as either a medical condition or as a seperate species is pretty much rubbish. I'm not even going to bother going into the specifics of a disease, since I've already wasted a lot of breath explaining here there are many diseases out there which have symptoms reminiscent of 'classic vampirism'. It must also be said that all of these have been, at different times, used as 'explanations' for vampirism, yet the sufferers are not vampires. To counter this by saying "oh, the disease is just is rare it hasn't been discovered yet" is pure childish petulance. It's not exactly as if people are falling over each other rushing to get diagnosed with porphyria. Remember this is a disease so uncommon that medical texts refer to it as 'rare and mysterious'. Taking a sample of the number of people here who claim to be or have 'seen' vampires versus the number of people here with porphyria, I'd hazard a guess that this apparently 'undiscovered' vampire-disease is apparently more common. In fact, there are whole websites and clubs devoted to people who think they have this disease; I would hardly call that 'rare'. But go on, prove me wrong; you think you have it? Then go to your nearest medical specialist and get it discovered. Your doctor would love to be the one to discover a new diesase, trust me.

If vampirism isn't some mystical undiscovered disease, could it be a previously-unknown species of vertibrate; most likely a mutant strain of homo sapiens sapiens? Well, it's possibly. It's easy to look into nature and find examples of 'vampire-like' traits existing naturally. We've seen how certain rare genetic diseases may result in photosensitivity, and nature is full of animals with metabolisms so slow they often appear dead, such as the New Zealand tuatara and pretty much anything that hybernates. And lots of animals subsist wholly on blood, though it needs to be pointed out that the majority of these are insect or worm parasites (and a few primitive fish, I believe), and the only mammal to do so is the tiny South American vampire bat (they're about as big as your thumb). Most blood-drinking animals are tiny in comparison to your average (or even non-average) human; since the amount of food consumed is relatvive to the size of the animal, imagine how much blood a human-sized vampire would have to consume if it were their only or main source of sustenence. Now imagine how many dead bodies or fainting anemiacs that would leave behind. A thousand years ago that probably wouldn't've been a concern; now, on the other hand, it would be. Doctors and scientists aren't (perhaps be definition) stupid, and considering this phenomenon has supposedly been with us since ancient times... let's just say I do't buy the idea that no-one would've gotten suspicious by now. And of course the other simple fact is that pretty much every animal species of a reasonable size and rarity has already been catalogued and discovered. The last three major discoveres in zoology were the okapi (in circa 1901), the colossal squid (1925; even bigger and rarer than the giant squid) and the coelacanth (193 cool that was thought to have died off in the Cretaceous. I'm certainly not suggesting we've discovered everything that exists on the planet, but it does need to be noted that these three discoveries were of animals that live in fairly inhospitable environments (deep forest and deep ocean). The middle of the city is, in my opinion, not a particularly inhospitable environment. The point being, that it seems highly unlikely that some kind of uncatalogued vampire species would exist in populated areas, and no-one has ever given me any good argument as to why they remain so elusive; especially when so many people are running around volunteering themselves as specimens or having met specimens. Let's point out that only one adult (ie. large) colossal squid has ever been captured, plus two tentacles and some beaks found in a whale's belly, as well as numerous scars on whale skin that are thought to have been caused by the hooks on the squid's tentacles. But again; one adult specimen. Yet we know this species exists. And people expect me to buy that there is some hidden species of vampires that have never been discovered? Bah.

Anyway, the whole argument is moot since you're asking the wrong question. The question isn't "do vampires exist?" so much as "why do people want to believe vampires exist?" One is a child's question; I'll let you make up your own mind on which one it is.

Ixxis


Marylin~mansoN

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:28 pm


pandorina
Marylin~mansoN
of coarse vampires r real
im one and im gonna make my gf one

Rock on my sweet twisted

thnx
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:32 pm


u guys no there r vampires ur just afraid and u rsist thinking about it
twisted

Marylin~mansoN


Marylin~mansoN

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:35 pm


Yami_no_tengoku
Alot of discussion here! Good, good! As for me, well... it's a complicated tale...

The message delves deeper in reality than I have room for, so I'll sum-up my stance: Vampires are real. They amongst us, and they live in shadow. Some may kill, others may not. If there is a killer, I'm sure their old enough to get away with it. Enough "evil" exists in the world as is, who's not to say something else wanders it as well, and may at times even use it as a cover?

As for the symptoms, it's true that there are many diseases and such that have been linked with Vampirism, but that does not mean Vampires do not exist-- it simply means that the condition was not well-known enough to warrant belief in anything else. Think about it: do you really think humans exist alone?

i like the way u think
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:01 pm


Marylin~mansoN
u guys no there r vampires ur just afraid and u rsist thinking about it
twisted


Mmmhmmm and the reason I don't believe in Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy is because I'm scared of the too?

Ebony_Wings


Ixxis

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:07 pm


Honestly I'm more afraid of anyone who spells like that than vampires. [shudders]
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:58 am


Im glad u take interest in my kind

Serpenta


Razor Wire

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:10 am


Loqia Dee
Honestly I'm more afraid of anyone who spells like that than vampires. [shudders]


Im going to strongly agree with you on that one...*shivers more*
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