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[lost.love214]

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:51 pm


lol ninja
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:35 pm


There's nothing wrong with enjoying a good nap now and them. I myself, am mostly like the two polar opposite characters: Lee and Shika.

Like Lee I set very high standards for myself and work my a** of to achieve them. I truly believe with all my heart that hard work can surpass genious.

But I'm also like Shika, because when I'm not working I like to be curled up on the couch all nice n cozy...because work is important, but rest is equally important.

So no, Shika's not lazy...he's just laid back.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:33 pm


woot yes blinking is too troublesome>.<
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:36 am


(Did not read it all but got the point after a few sentences)

And I think you're right in some aspects...Shikamaru isn't lazy but that doesn't mean that Shikamaru will do things unless required to do them. If he doesn't think it's necessary that he do something, he just simply won't do it. I think it's because of his apathetic attitude towards many things. Why bother with doing anything if it doesn't really matter in the end? Right. Well, I think that's his only problem is that...he doesn't find a lot of things important...or worth his time. Like when it came to school and all, he didn’t do work or test except for the last one which he knew required his efforts to pass. Shikamaru gets by doing what is enough and nothing more because he doesn’t really need to do more than he needs to…he’s already above everyone else without trying so why use up too much energy that isn’t needed. The end. XP

(When he‘s required to do something I noticed that he likes to say this-“How troublesome but it cannot be helped.” ((he wouldn‘t do anything if it wasn‘t for the fact that he HAD to it.))

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:45 am


Shikalee
Okay. It's rant time. And I think this fits here.

First: A note to mods. If this is in the wrong place, please move it. <3
It took to long to write to be deleted because... it's ansty. D:
Deal? heart


Please don't be offended, but I must let a few things out...
So don't take anything too personally...
But feel free to argue back. <3
BUT NO FLAMING. I don't want this deleted immediately.
GOOD FEELINGS. heart

-ALSO- SPOILER WARNING.
I mention a few things that could be spoilers to those who are not exposed to Japanese media.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ladies; he's not the laziest s**t in the world.

Example.
Girl: I'm too lazy to [insert ANYTHING HERE, including BREATING.]"

[Start Rant]
It's pretty obvious that Shikamaru has his lazy moments. Napping with his cat on a daily basis, refusing to do school work, and of course, that long, drawn out, obnoxious sigh. And others in the show DO call him lazy. Asuma. Naruto. Ino. Even his best friend, Chouji. So it's gotta be true, right? WRONG. Absolutely wrong. People like to call him the Genius Slacker, and the REAL REASON that's a joke is because he isn't. That's right. "Genius Slacker" is clearly an oxymoron.

Now. Here is supporting evidence that he actually does things. First off, ever see how he fights? Sure, he's complaining half the time, but the other half of the time, he's kicking a**. That's right. Doing crazy flips in the air, throwing kunai, focusing chakra... multi-tasking. Not only does it take mental energy, but yes, MASSIVE PHYISCAL ENERGY as well. In the Chuunin exam preliminaries, he fought the sound ninja referred to as Kin. Now, you guys see the obvious; he used his shadow to slam her head into the wall. That's true. But notice that weird backwards thing he did? Yeah. If you weren't looking at his NUTS, you would have noticed all the weight is going into his ARMS. He weighs what... 93 lbs and is 4'11". Normal, right? Actually, yes. Just about. But a lot of strengh is required to bend that way, and he didn't get that strong from taking naps and being assraped by fangirls.

Another example. Sasuke runs away to find Orochimaru so he can become stronger. Hearing this news, Tsunade appoints Shikamaru to take 4 genin of his choice to "rescue" Sasuke. Choosen are Kiba, Neji, Naruto, and Chouji (six if you count Akamaru). In a previous chapter Sasuke encountered what I call the Sound 5; Kidomaru, Tayuya, Jiroubu, Sakon, and Ukon. These 5, plus another, Kimimaro, are future opponents of the genin and of course our one chuunin. Tsunade knowing this, clearly made a mistake on making Shikamaru's first mission a very difficult one. Anyway, so they search for Sasuke. One by one, they are trapped to fight one of these Sound 5. Chouji with Jiroubu, Kiba with Sakon and Ukon, Neji with Kidomaru, Naruto follows after Kimimaro and Sasuke, while Shikamaru is left with Tayuya. Tayuya, being a master of Ninjutsu and Genjutsu techniques, could have taken out Shikamaru-- no problem. But she underestimates him terribly, and falls for every trap. Soon she releases her summon monsters upon him. There are 3 of them, very large; about 20 feet in height or so, and they suck away physical energy.

I'm sure, "OOO HES SO SMART. HE'LL PULL THROUGH"
Not only that. Listen. And bite your tongues.

These enemies come at him. This is where strength comes in. He does this stupidly high jump, and narrowly avoids them by turning himself in the air. This not only takes strength, but a stupid amount of coordination. To anyone who's curious, she continues to attack him with the creatures controlling them with her flute (her only weapon, mind you) while he runs from her for a good long while. He then has 9 kunai, makes up a crazy plan, and it works. So then she falls into another trap, and is caught in Kage Mane (Shadow Copy). She cannot move. He then uses Kage Kubi Shibari No Jutsu (Basically, "Shadow Binding Choke" Technique) and tries to well... choke her. She escapes with a blast of chakra (YES, you can counter Kage Mane; it's NOT invinsible) and places him into an illusion that makes one of his arms melt off, causing him to scream like a little girl. In the end of it all, he's saved by Temari.

Point is, not only does he exersise, but in telling you this, if you have a brain stem, you also realize, "Man, that took a lot of work." That's right. WORK. Hard, sweating, omg I'm gonna die it's so hard, work. He may have an IQ of 200, but that doesn't make things any easier, which is the SECOND MISSCONCEPTION.

Intelligence. IQ is not intelligence. IQ is how well one can compute. This means he can do much more if motivated to. He doesn't have to. But he does have to try. It's not like... "Oh... wait... I KNOW THE MEANING OF LIFE ON ACCIDENT." It doesn't work that way. No matter how big that IQ number is, you still have to work. Myself, lagging a bit behind at and estimated 136, have to work just as hard as you guys in the 90-110 range (I can assume because MOST people in America are under 110). Having a bigger number doesn't give you more knowledge. All his skills, all his techniques, all his abilities... He had to LEARN those. And believ it or not, a lot of them had to be taught by people smarter than him. If you think smart guys are hot, Kakashi is smarter. Shino is smarter. Their IQs just aren't as high. IQ is a PHYSICAL ratio of basically how well you can calculate something. My being 136 doesn't make me any smarter than a 90 " just cuz." It is just much easier for me to learn, solve problems, and create new paths than it is for someone who's say 85.

This rant covers the main theme. Laziness.

Stop "copying" him.
He isn't lazy ALWAYS, and isn't lazy in every way.
Just in simple, annoying, household tasks. See, the reason why he's considered "smart" is because he's at a level where he realizes a lot of what we do in life is pointless. But that doesn't make him a genius; lots of people see life that way. And it doesn't make him lazy; just smart.

[/End Rant]

Now, the reason I made this is because I'm a huge Shikamaru fan.
I find it insulting people say they "love" him but don't really know him.
At all. Do a little reading, ladies.
HE READS BOOKS.
WOW.
WHEN NARUTO WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AFTER HE SUMMONED GAMABUNTA.
LEARN IT.
Dx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please respond with comments, arguments, and questions. :3
But no flaming. I wasn't flaming anyone in particular.
I was mostly just venting anger, and if you match these silly descriptions, just grow up. sweatdrop

Wow. I've been enlightened, lol.
But seriously, you're right. And stupid obsessive fangirls need to stop calling him lazy whee
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:26 pm


I love you. This was wonderfull. I hate when people call my Shika a lazy slacker. No one understands and I never have seemed to be able to put that into words.
But, damn, you did it, and you did it very well.
That was fabulous.

I seriously love you as much as I love Shikamaru.
heart

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:21 am


I must agree with you for the most part on this rant. Many times, I will read a fanfic or see someone make a comment that just does not make sense. No, Shikamaru is not extreamly lazy, and is not so lazy that he makes comments about blinking being too troublesome or eating or anything like that. Shikamaru is actually quite powerful, and does not find every day to day task too troublesome to do. This makes many a true fangirl very upset.

But you should not take every small comment to heart. I am not saying that you personally do, but all the fans out there who get upset right when someone even uses the word 'Lazy' or 'Slacker' to describe him. These are just quite simply titles, it does not nessisarily mean he is a lazy guy who does nothing. It is just that the creator made it so that everyone referrs to him as the lazy one, the slacker, beacuse that is the impression he gives off unless you get to know him. If someone who is talking about him online or in real life referrs to him as 'Shikamaru: The Lazy Slacker', they are probrobly just usuing his title, and might not think that he is just some bum who had never trained in his entire life.

Also, Shikamaru was given the 'lazy' and 'slacker' attitude beacuse the creator wanted to make him ((just like all the characters in the show are)) a original character. No one on the show is known for 'slacking off'. That is Shikamaru's title... it gives him his own little territory. Everyone else on the show is always talking about how they have to try their hardest or prove themself to the villadge or get stronger. Shikamaru is the one character who does work, but he is not one to worry about how others see him workwise. He just cares about his team, and making it through. ((though we all know that when he gets motivated, he is unstoppable!))

- This has been a note from Chippy. ^___^ Have a nice day.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:42 pm


>___________>;;
Damn,, you got me.
I was totally looking at his nuts.

I completely agree with you,, though. heart

He puts the effort out when it's needed.
For things he's pretty pationate about,, I think.
Like saving his freinds.

Remeber when he had that talk with his father while Neji and Chouji were recovering?
He was seriously beside himself about what happened to them.
And,, that's because he cares.

After their talk,, Shikamaru decided to remain a Chunin,
So that he could always be there.
I think he's willing to sacrifice a little cat-napping for them.
:]
At least,, that's what I'd like to believe.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:33 am


User Image stressed I don't know why I even bother to come here....

... I guess i promised myself to post about every once in a while so i won't get kick out.
Azuma Sensai told me that it would good for....

he wants me to be more active.... something about building up character-- I don't know.

I quess i owe him that much anyway since he's dead.
[turns to the side and see's Azuma smoking a cig, smiles, then disappears]

Oh how troublesome... I just seen Azuma's ghost looking a me.

O< This is my sign
O

Not to be mean, but Both signs are mine
I made a shadow behind my Nara clan's sign

To prove how lazy i am. I am now using chakra to make my shadow do all of the typing, while i'm just doing all the...> User Image
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:03 pm


I think he is lazy, but not a slacker, and not so lazy that he doesn't get things done. (That's my problem.) And as someone (I don't feel like going back to check exactly who) pointed out, while he may not be lazy by our standards, he might be by ninja standards. I don't really consider him all that lazy, really--I think he just kind of prefers to sit back and watch the clouds rather than, say, play soccer in his spare time. He's just not very physically inclined.

And then there's how he got through school. You can't forget that. Wish they'd let me do that. But nooooo, I have to go to college after, and I'll need good grades for that...

Yes, he does all those nifty ninja flips and stuff...same as everyone else. In terms of physical capability, I've long felt that he's about average, as a ninja. This much I don't think has as much to do with laziness as it does with the fact that he's not Lee. Part of what makes him so special is that he is able to utilize more-or-less average physical capabilities so effectively that he can operate at a chuunin level at 13.

Also, IQ stands for "intelligence quota." "Smart" is vague and a lot harder to define.

While Shikamaru is not a slacker (except in school), "Genius Slacker" is not an oxymoron. An oxymoron is a term or phrase that contradicts itself. One can be a genius and a slacker at the same time. One is an official genius at an IQ level of 140. Even if Shikamaru skipped training all the time (and I sincerely doubt he does), he would still be a genius; he would still have that crazy-high IQ of 200+. Even if he was too lazy to learn, he would still have the ability to. Me, I'm almost an official genius at 137, and let me tell you I am one hell of a slacker. So you could accurately call me the "Near-Genius Slacker."

I mostly agree with you, though. Shikamaru is not as lazy as some so-called "fans" make him out to be. And after the "Rescue Sasuke" arc, I think he really starts working harder to become a better ninja, as well. But I don't think we'll see him playing sports in his spare time anytime soon. And if he ever trains with Lee, he'll probably end up just counting for him.

Really, when you think about, though, Shikamaru is a prodigy. Not as much of a prodigy as Itachi, of course (really, Itachi is just freakish), but frankly I think he's more of one than Sasuke, in a way. After all, as nifty as Kagemane is, he doesn't have that handy-dandy Uchiha bloodline limit, or such prodigious people to train him (Kakashi, Orochimaru). Shikamaru has achieved what he has almost entirely on brainpower.

And hard work, of course.

Ookami Aya



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:08 pm


Chaotic Finale
Wow...

That just put my thoughts into words so much better than I ever could.

It is so true. I read a fanfic no more than a month ago where Shikamaru was saying how troublesome it was to breathe or do anything. I immediately left the page after reading that.

It was painful to read even that much. sweatdrop
stare what was the fanfics name?... ninja
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:10 pm


it seems that every anime character that has fangirls and fanboys usualy are over exaterated xD but thats what makes them even more loveable! heart


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:53 pm


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:10 am


You really do have a point there... I am now enlightened to the way of Shikamaru. blaugh

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:31 pm


Father Elwood
Okay. It's rant time. And I think this fits here.

First: A note to mods. If this is in the wrong place, please move it. <3
It took to long to write to be deleted because... it's ansty. D:
Deal? heart


Please don't be offended, but I must let a few things out...
So don't take anything too personally...
But feel free to argue back. <3
BUT NO FLAMING. I don't want this deleted immediately.
GOOD FEELINGS. heart

-ALSO- SPOILER WARNING.
I mention a few things that could be spoilers to those who are not exposed to Japanese media.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ladies; he's not the laziest s**t in the world.

Example.
Girl: I'm too lazy to [insert ANYTHING HERE, including BREATING.]"

[Start Rant]
It's pretty obvious that Shikamaru has his lazy moments. Napping with his cat on a daily basis, refusing to do school work, and of course, that long, drawn out, obnoxious sigh. And others in the show DO call him lazy. Asuma. Naruto. Ino. Even his best friend, Chouji. So it's gotta be true, right? WRONG. Absolutely wrong. People like to call him the Genius Slacker, and the REAL REASON that's a joke is because he isn't. That's right. "Genius Slacker" is clearly an oxymoron.

Now. Here is supporting evidence that he actually does things. First off, ever see how he fights? Sure, he's complaining half the time, but the other half of the time, he's kicking a**. That's right. Doing crazy flips in the air, throwing kunai, focusing chakra... multi-tasking. Not only does it take mental energy, but yes, MASSIVE PHYISCAL ENERGY as well. In the Chuunin exam preliminaries, he fought the sound ninja referred to as Kin. Now, you guys see the obvious; he used his shadow to slam her head into the wall. That's true. But notice that weird backwards thing he did? Yeah. If you weren't looking at his NUTS, you would have noticed all the weight is going into his ARMS. He weighs what... 93 lbs and is 4'11". Normal, right? Actually, yes. Just about. But a lot of strengh is required to bend that way, and he didn't get that strong from taking naps and being assraped by fangirls.

Another example. Sasuke runs away to find Orochimaru so he can become stronger. Hearing this news, Tsunade appoints Shikamaru to take 4 genin of his choice to "rescue" Sasuke. Choosen are Kiba, Neji, Naruto, and Chouji (six if you count Akamaru). In a previous chapter Sasuke encountered what I call the Sound 5; Kidomaru, Tayuya, Jiroubu, Sakon, and Ukon. These 5, plus another, Kimimaro, are future opponents of the genin and of course our one chuunin. Tsunade knowing this, clearly made a mistake on making Shikamaru's first mission a very difficult one. Anyway, so they search for Sasuke. One by one, they are trapped to fight one of these Sound 5. Chouji with Jiroubu, Kiba with Sakon and Ukon, Neji with Kidomaru, Naruto follows after Kimimaro and Sasuke, while Shikamaru is left with Tayuya. Tayuya, being a master of Ninjutsu and Genjutsu techniques, could have taken out Shikamaru-- no problem. But she underestimates him terribly, and falls for every trap. Soon she releases her summon monsters upon him. There are 3 of them, very large; about 20 feet in height or so, and they suck away physical energy.

I'm sure, "OOO HES SO SMART. HE'LL PULL THROUGH"
Not only that. Listen. And bite your tongues.

These enemies come at him. This is where strength comes in. He does this stupidly high jump, and narrowly avoids them by turning himself in the air. This not only takes strength, but a stupid amount of coordination. To anyone who's curious, she continues to attack him with the creatures controlling them with her flute (her only weapon, mind you) while he runs from her for a good long while. He then has 9 kunai, makes up a crazy plan, and it works. So then she falls into another trap, and is caught in Kage Mane (Shadow Copy). She cannot move. He then uses Kage Kubi Shibari No Jutsu (Basically, "Shadow Binding Choke" Technique) and tries to well... choke her. She escapes with a blast of chakra (YES, you can counter Kage Mane; it's NOT invinsible) and places him into an illusion that makes one of his arms melt off, causing him to scream like a little girl. In the end of it all, he's saved by Temari.

Point is, not only does he exersise, but in telling you this, if you have a brain stem, you also realize, "Man, that took a lot of work." That's right. WORK. Hard, sweating, omg I'm gonna die it's so hard, work. He may have an IQ of 200, but that doesn't make things any easier, which is the SECOND MISSCONCEPTION.

Intelligence. IQ is not intelligence. IQ is how well one can compute. This means he can do much more if motivated to. He doesn't have to. But he does have to try. It's not like... "Oh... wait... I KNOW THE MEANING OF LIFE ON ACCIDENT." It doesn't work that way. No matter how big that IQ number is, you still have to work. Myself, lagging a bit behind at and estimated 136, have to work just as hard as you guys in the 90-110 range (I can assume because MOST people in America are under 110). Having a bigger number doesn't give you more knowledge. All his skills, all his techniques, all his abilities... He had to LEARN those. And believ it or not, a lot of them had to be taught by people smarter than him. If you think smart guys are hot, Kakashi is smarter. Shino is smarter. Their IQs just aren't as high. IQ is a PHYSICAL ratio of basically how well you can calculate something. My being 136 doesn't make me any smarter than a 90 " just cuz." It is just much easier for me to learn, solve problems, and create new paths than it is for someone who's say 85.

This rant covers the main theme. Laziness.

Stop "copying" him.
He isn't lazy ALWAYS, and isn't lazy in every way.
Just in simple, annoying, household tasks. See, the reason why he's considered "smart" is because he's at a level where he realizes a lot of what we do in life is pointless. But that doesn't make him a genius; lots of people see life that way. And it doesn't make him lazy; just smart.

[/End Rant]

Now, the reason I made this is because I'm a huge Shikamaru fan.
I find it insulting people say they "love" him but don't really know him.
At all. Do a little reading, ladies.
HE READS BOOKS.
WOW.
WHEN NARUTO WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AFTER HE SUMMONED GAMABUNTA.
LEARN IT.
Dx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please respond with comments, arguments, and questions. :3
But no flaming. I wasn't flaming anyone in particular.
I was mostly just venting anger, and if you match these silly descriptions, just grow up. sweatdrop



thanks for telling us that rofl

.... yep i was here previously around Mar. acting like a Troublesome Baka
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