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i am a self harmer
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i am NOT a self harmer
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i do not self harm but i know others who do
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Civet Moon
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:16 pm


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You did it to get rid of bad emotions? I bit my arms when I was a kid and so did this other kid I knew, but we just did it because it was fun. Then my mum found out and got really freaked out so I stoppped.


I don't know. As I think I've mentioned to you before, I have a very hard time recognizing and understanding my emotions. All I recall is that it made me feel better when I did it. I don't know if this was emotionally or what, though.

Also, thank you for the answers to my question.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:51 pm


self harm and self injury are used interchangebly but there is a difference

self harm is harmful behaviours eg. smoking, drinking, OD on medication etc

self injury is actual physical injury such as cutting, banging, burning etc.

i'm having this huge debate with people on ED...this guy posted how his friend thinks its ok to cut...and yeh all these ignorant people are sayin we are idiots and have no self respect and just need to feel loved...and should just get over it...

they are missing the whole issue about why people do it and any scientific proof that says its a coping mechanism

half of them are sayin that just because someone cuts they wil kill themselves stare

the ignorance has no end

weeping pixie


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Crew

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:24 am


Civet Moon
Quote:
You did it to get rid of bad emotions? I bit my arms when I was a kid and so did this other kid I knew, but we just did it because it was fun. Then my mum found out and got really freaked out so I stoppped.


I don't know. As I think I've mentioned to you before, I have a very hard time recognizing and understanding my emotions. All I recall is that it made me feel better when I did it. I don't know if this was emotionally or what, though.

Also, thank you for the answers to my question.


Well, as you've stopped now, it doesn't matter, though I understand it would be intrestingt o know.

I am extremely disturbed that La Veuve's shrink has the same amount of knowledge of SI taht I would expect from a fairly stupid person who has never thought of such a thing. Cutting yourself on purpose does no more damage than accidentally cutting yourself while chopping vegetables. When was the last time you head about someone dying while trying to chop vegetables?

Thaks for the info, barbsy! So what people often mean by self-harm is self-injury or even self-mutilation? Odd.
Someone once told me that because I SI, I should stop immediately, because the blade could slip and cut open the arteries in my wrist and I would then bleed to death. I don't even cut myself. stare

This guy just walked past our house and spat on our wall. gonk Sorry for the random comment, I'm just rahter grossed out.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:42 pm


I hate it when people say those things.....
"Don't SI 'cause you might cut open the arteries in your wrists....."

Just because I cut doesn't mean I cut my wrists. Some don't even cut! It's irks me.....

Anyways, been having a bit of a problem with it especially the past few days myself....

Ares
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Artio

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:53 pm


hmmm all of this makes a lot of sense.
i do cut and i didnt realise that some of the things i do are considered self-harm. i think the only reason i havent been cutting recently is because if my sister noticed that i had a recent cut she'd flip.

Question for anyone: what should i do if i feel like cutting, and yet don't want to, but feel so ....um.....worthless (couldn't think of the word) that you feel like you should cut yourself, to inflict upon yourself some of the pain that you give to others, however unintentionally? (sp)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:11 am


Artio
what should i do if i feel like cutting, and yet don't want to, but feel so ....um.....worthless (couldn't think of the word) that you feel like you should cut yourself, to inflict upon yourself some of the pain that you give to others, however unintentionally? (sp)


Distracting yourself can help. Have you tried the alternatives to cutting that help a lot of people, like putting an ice cube against your skin or coloring on yourself with a red marker?

Doctrix
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weeping pixie

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:40 am


Artio
hmmm all of this makes a lot of sense.
i do cut and i didnt realise that some of the things i do are considered self-harm. i think the only reason i havent been cutting recently is because if my sister noticed that i had a recent cut she'd flip.

Question for anyone: what should i do if i feel like cutting, and yet don't want to, but feel so ....um.....worthless (couldn't think of the word) that you feel like you should cut yourself, to inflict upon yourself some of the pain that you give to others, however unintentionally? (sp)


weird as this sounds i just force myself to get worse...force myself to get the sad feeling worse...and then just cry...i let it all out and cry

things that also help...hot showers, baths, repertitive games like tetris or solitaire...just empty ur mind
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:23 pm


Smart Alex
Distracting yourself can help. Have you tried the alternatives to cutting that help a lot of people, like putting an ice cube against your skin or coloring on yourself with a red marker?


nope, i havent tried that, it sounds kinda fun compared to cutting. i think i'll just carry a couple sharpies around for a while.... I heart sharpies...

Artio
weird as this sounds i just force myself to get worse...force myself to get the sad feeling worse...and then just cry...i let it all out and cry

things that also help...hot showers, baths, repertitive games like tetris or solitaire...just empty ur mind


hmmmm...i dont think something like that would work for me so well... if i tried that i might hurt myself worse. but doing something repetetive would probably work for me...i get distracted easily. stare

thanks for both your advice!

Artio


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:32 pm


Smart Alex
Have you tried the alternatives to cutting that help a lot of people, like putting an ice cube against your skin or coloring on yourself with a red marker?


I would've suggested something like waxing your legs xd

Sorry, I know it's a serious thing, but that just occurred to me as a way to feel pain without causing any lasting injury.

I've found exercise is a good way of bringing out endorphins when you really need them, though. I've never been too inclined to self-harm but the last time I really lost it I put on my boxing gloves and beat the s**t out of the side of my house, which seemed to work well. Wish I'd had those gloves when I was a teenager---some of our furniture might be in better shape sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:17 pm


La Veuve Zin
I've found exercise is a good way of bringing out endorphins when you really need them, though.


Good point. Going for a jog is another good suggestion. Or doing something to get all that energy out into something constructive rather than destructive.

La Veuve Zin
I would've suggested something like waxing your legs


Good one! Another common suggestion is to snap a rubber band on your wrist. But in my experience, the people who try this just get red welts on their wrists from snapping too much.

Doctrix
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weeping pixie

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:49 pm


Smart Alex
La Veuve Zin
I've found exercise is a good way of bringing out endorphins when you really need them, though.


Good point. Going for a jog is another good suggestion. Or doing something to get all that energy out into something constructive rather than destructive.

La Veuve Zin
I would've suggested something like waxing your legs


Good one! Another common suggestion is to snap a rubber band on your wrist. But in my experience, the people who try this just get red welts on their wrists from snapping too much.


the exercise thing works...but it takes time to take effect when you have high levels of anxiety and stress...in my case a mix of medication, exercise and better diet helped me get in better control of my SI...i can easily sit there with a blade in my hand and not cut...

it takes ALOT of self control to quit...and most important...dont beat yourself up over the fact that you have SI'd...be positive about how many hours or days you have gone without it and next time try to beat that time...accept that you do it and learn about it, learn what triggers it for you, learn that you are not alone and then it will get much easier to quit

the other important thing is to learn how to do it properly...if you gona burn or cut or bruise or whatever...and theres nothing that can stop you at the time...learn how to treat the wounds...keep antiseptic creams and sterile dressings on hand just in case you do have a very bad day...if you must cut...make sure you dont do it deep...and make sure that your "tools" are clean and sharp...

i'm not sayin this to encourage people to SI...but for those who are already addicted and sometimes find it hard to go without it is important to minimise the harmful side effects of it all...last thing u want if u burn or cut is a bad infection in your wounds...thats what leaves bad scars

if you're tryin to quit then only SI when you are desperate...i know for me the ice cube, the rubber band and all that didnt help...basically for me i have to go cold turkey and i will be the first to admit that it is very hard...BUT it can be done

for those of you who want to vent out and stuff about depression and anxiety and SI polestar is a site run by very good friends of mine...it is a small support site and everyone is willing to help you no matter how big or small the problem is...also the member there have ALOT of experience between them...theres people there who deal with eating disorders, abuse, schitozphernia, psychosis, severe depression, anxiety and so many other problems...they are extremely friendly bunch and willing to talk to anyone...so yeh if you want check it out
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:36 am


makes sense. and whenever i do cut i make sure i clean it right away. the only problem is that when i want to, its totally random with almost no warning. maybe if i started to exercise regularly it would help more. i normally cut late at night when i can't sleep and start thinking of depressing stuff...
i've tried rubber bands, i end up playing with them and giving myself welts. they really hurt....

Artio


weeping pixie

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:04 am


Artio
makes sense. and whenever i do cut i make sure i clean it right away. the only problem is that when i want to, its totally random with almost no warning. maybe if i started to exercise regularly it would help more. i normally cut late at night when i can't sleep and start thinking of depressing stuff...
i've tried rubber bands, i end up playing with them and giving myself welts. they really hurt....


best way at night do something repetative...or watch tv....just take ur mind off things til u are very tired

if u cant sleep dont stay in bed...thats what makes u think bout depression...just keep urself occupied til u sleep
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:59 pm


barbsy
Artio
makes sense. and whenever i do cut i make sure i clean it right away. the only problem is that when i want to, its totally random with almost no warning. maybe if i started to exercise regularly it would help more. i normally cut late at night when i can't sleep and start thinking of depressing stuff...
i've tried rubber bands, i end up playing with them and giving myself welts. they really hurt....


best way at night do something repetative...or watch tv....just take ur mind off things til u are very tired

if u cant sleep dont stay in bed...thats what makes u think bout depression...just keep urself occupied til u sleep


the only thing that really works is just reading something till i'm tired. but i can't really do anything loud because everyone else in my family is sleeping and my mom doesnt let me go on the computer or use the tv after 10pm normally...
does anyone have suggestions for good music that is happy? or just less rock-based? i have a lot of that and it doesn't help for calming me down or helping me fall asleep.

Artio


weeping pixie

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:36 am


Artio
barbsy
Artio
makes sense. and whenever i do cut i make sure i clean it right away. the only problem is that when i want to, its totally random with almost no warning. maybe if i started to exercise regularly it would help more. i normally cut late at night when i can't sleep and start thinking of depressing stuff...
i've tried rubber bands, i end up playing with them and giving myself welts. they really hurt....


best way at night do something repetative...or watch tv....just take ur mind off things til u are very tired

if u cant sleep dont stay in bed...thats what makes u think bout depression...just keep urself occupied til u sleep


the only thing that really works is just reading something till i'm tired. but i can't really do anything loud because everyone else in my family is sleeping and my mom doesnt let me go on the computer or use the tv after 10pm normally...
does anyone have suggestions for good music that is happy? or just less rock-based? i have a lot of that and it doesn't help for calming me down or helping me fall asleep.


i'm different with the music...depressive and angry music makes me feel better cos it releases the emotion...

some good music...michael buble biggrin and the old crooners songs they are so cool
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