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 Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:19 pm
let me put some ideas out...
At the beginning of the 23rd century, Technological advances made it possible to build robots to investigate the universe for living, since the earth was too polluted for human to lived in. New emerging countries such as India, Africa and China, as well as the old dominant countries such as England, U.S and Japan also started their migration into the space by building space colonies to solve the problem of overpopulation. Furthermore, the third world war that happened at the middle of the 22nd century prompted a new wave of imperialism, which foster the development of military spaceships and the desire to develop stronger weapon for universal imperialism. To people of scientific desire, Universe is a place of dreams and the so called perfect society. To the people of greed, capital and war, Universe is a new battlefield. During the mid-23rd century, numerous scientific researches were done, and robots of the shape of Human, known as the Mobile suits, were developed based on the robots that scientists used to investigate the universe at the beginning of the century.
Due to the new weapon that's invented, it opened a new era of war and peace in the human history: the MS age. A new type of war that's never seen before in Human History is now going to start...
Is this sufficient?
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:13 pm
There wouldn't be a third world war, if you consider technology as it is... There would be a nuclear cleansing of the Earth, and it makes for a boring story.
Plus, mobile suits for space exploration is kind of.... weak. You can't travel at speeds close to that of light speed, and subsequently cannot really go beyond the moon, or the orbital band that contains the lagrange points.
It all has to be central to Earth's orbit.
Colonies for population has already been done on numerous occasions.
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:01 pm
Ophiuchus There wouldn't be a third world war, if you consider technology as it is... There would be a nuclear cleansing of the Earth, and it makes for a boring story. Plus, mobile suits for space exploration is kind of.... weak. You can't travel at speeds close to that of light speed, and subsequently cannot really go beyond the moon, or the orbital band that contains the lagrange points. It all has to be central to Earth's orbit. Colonies for population has already been done on numerous occasions. well it's hard to think of these stuff. I am not that creative afterall.... burning_eyes can't think! let me try to sort something out... cant really think of another setting right now.... crying
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:02 pm
Well, giant robots on the whole are impractical. Big, slow, expensive.
Need to think of a reason for them being.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:38 pm
Ophiuchus Well, giant robots on the whole are impractical. Big, slow, expensive. Need to think of a reason for them being. well, these giant robots are great for investigating dangerous places, big construction project.... and.... ya, mass destruction sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:33 pm
Perhaps mobile suits could have been developed for exploration of OUR planet. They are all-purpose machines, useable in all terrains. They could be used to monitor harsh conditions, and explore places where there have been natural disasters... maybe even explore the depths of the sea.
From there, maybe two rival countries try to lay claim to a discovery, and one country's unit DESTROYS the others... Thus the era of mobile suits as weapons is born. We don't even NEED space.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:33 pm
Ophiuchus Perhaps mobile suits could have been developed for exploration of OUR planet. They are all-purpose machines, useable in all terrains. They could be used to monitor harsh conditions, and explore places where there have been natural disasters... maybe even explore the depths of the sea. From there, maybe two rival countries try to lay claim to a discovery, and one country's unit DESTROYS the others... Thus the era of mobile suits as weapons is born. We don't even NEED space. Well exploring our planet would only be exploring the ocean, so there would be plenty of marine mobile suits in production and it doesnt give quite a varity, as for natural disasters I mean they could be relief forces or something to help victims. I like where its going, however the part that dulls this story is how the battles start, only because rival companies attack each other. Plus I doubt they would have to financial needs to produce mobile suits for extensive warfare. and where is the current military of this said time period? I'm sure they'd be alittle concerned with all this.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:38 pm
Or another thought, just throwing it out there. instead of two rival companies, perhaps it's just one company and this has been going on for about a decade the ocean begins to become polluted for some reasons like the extensive exploration, or a few oil rig malfunctions, and this radical group kida like green peace, onl'y hard corp starts attacking the company
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:13 am
Red_knightm Ophiuchus Perhaps mobile suits could have been developed for exploration of OUR planet. They are all-purpose machines, useable in all terrains. They could be used to monitor harsh conditions, and explore places where there have been natural disasters... maybe even explore the depths of the sea. From there, maybe two rival countries try to lay claim to a discovery, and one country's unit DESTROYS the others... Thus the era of mobile suits as weapons is born. We don't even NEED space. Well exploring our planet would only be exploring the ocean, so there would be plenty of marine mobile suits in production and it doesnt give quite a varity, as for natural disasters I mean they could be relief forces or something to help victims. I like where its going, however the part that dulls this story is how the battles start, only because rival companies attack each other. Plus I doubt they would have to financial needs to produce mobile suits for extensive warfare. and where is the current military of this said time period? I'm sure they'd be alittle concerned with all this. You misunderstand. The first mobile suits are government-owned, and used to explore hostile environments (Where natural disasters have happened, or are happening) as well as the ocean which is unknown, and perhaps even observing areas effected by global warming. Now, from here I see it going three ways - 1 - At the bottom of the sea, they discover a forgotten city. Not atlantis as such, but a lost city, forgotten to time, perfectly preserved by the water... except for the plant stuff growing in places. The gravity of this situation hits home. One country attacks the other using their exploration unit (which'd have probably drills, harpoons, and remote explosives?) and as such, a war is prompted. The attacked side modifies its mobile suits purely for warfare, and, seeing how superior they are to conventional units due to their multi-functionality, gain the upperhand. The side that was attacking now needs to come up with a superweapon variety of mobile suit, in order to defend themselves. 2 - Similar, but the discovery is a sunken mobile suit of.... a different nature. It confuses people, because WE are the technological era... Where did it come from, and why? There will be many theories on it, but it will only be revealed later what the "Gundam" is. The attacked side once again makes their units for war, but the side they attack has the Gundam, which is superior. Insert generic war here. 3 - Terrorists obtain these units and modify them crudely for combat. The military make their own combat use mobile suits (one or two MP's for each country, plus the Gundam that gets made) Say hello to the war on terror, Gundam style.
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:27 pm
Ophiuchus Red_knightm Ophiuchus Perhaps mobile suits could have been developed for exploration of OUR planet. They are all-purpose machines, useable in all terrains. They could be used to monitor harsh conditions, and explore places where there have been natural disasters... maybe even explore the depths of the sea. From there, maybe two rival countries try to lay claim to a discovery, and one country's unit DESTROYS the others... Thus the era of mobile suits as weapons is born. We don't even NEED space. Well exploring our planet would only be exploring the ocean, so there would be plenty of marine mobile suits in production and it doesnt give quite a varity, as for natural disasters I mean they could be relief forces or something to help victims. I like where its going, however the part that dulls this story is how the battles start, only because rival companies attack each other. Plus I doubt they would have to financial needs to produce mobile suits for extensive warfare. and where is the current military of this said time period? I'm sure they'd be alittle concerned with all this. You misunderstand. The first mobile suits are government-owned, and used to explore hostile environments (Where natural disasters have happened, or are happening) as well as the ocean which is unknown, and perhaps even observing areas effected by global warming. Now, from here I see it going three ways - 1 - At the bottom of the sea, they discover a forgotten city. Not atlantis as such, but a lost city, forgotten to time, perfectly preserved by the water... except for the plant stuff growing in places. The gravity of this situation hits home. One country attacks the other using their exploration unit (which'd have probably drills, harpoons, and remote explosives?) and as such, a war is prompted. The attacked side modifies its mobile suits purely for warfare, and, seeing how superior they are to conventional units due to their multi-functionality, gain the upperhand. The side that was attacking now needs to come up with a superweapon variety of mobile suit, in order to defend themselves. 2 - Similar, but the discovery is a sunken mobile suit of.... a different nature. It confuses people, because WE are the technological era... Where did it come from, and why? There will be many theories on it, but it will only be revealed later what the "Gundam" is. The attacked side once again makes their units for war, but the side they attack has the Gundam, which is superior. Insert generic war here. 3 - Terrorists obtain these units and modify them crudely for combat. The military make their own combat use mobile suits (one or two MP's for each country, plus the Gundam that gets made) Say hello to the war on terror, Gundam style. I like option 2 combined with 3, like the discovered Gundam gets hijacked by an organization, but then that sounds like SEED confused Hmmmm lets go with option 3.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:38 am
woot. war on terror with mobile suits. It's been a while since they used guerilla tactics
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:23 pm
Ophiuchus woot. war on terror with mobile suits. It's been a while since they used guerilla tactics Yeah not since 08th MS Team. Now its time for characters, and MS designs.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:25 pm
The story needs fleshing out along with mobile suits before we can dream of characters.
Now, the first mobile suits would be "multi purpose", and thus, not spectacular at anything. I propose they look rather GM-like in their construction. We will dub this unit the MST-1 (Mobile Surveilance Type - One)
These are the units that will first be seen when the manga is being set up. Later, the terrorists will take and adapt these units, which causes the war.
How should the terrorists upgrade the MST-1? In what direction do we want to take it?
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:47 pm
It can't be complicated since it's like the beginning of the era. About the weapons.... how do we get such a big weapon for the GM anyway? if they're the first, there's definitely some difficulties in developing the weapon. I know you might argue that the terrorist might have the capital or technique to do so, blah blah blah, but the problem is, where can they obtain the technique from? how do they have the place to store and develop the GM? you can't just blow up a rocket launcher and just make every part of it huge, and say it's a new weapon of the GM anyway.....
just ignore me if what I say don't make sense......
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:04 pm
sybilus It can't be complicated since it's like the beginning of the era. About the weapons.... how do we get such a big weapon for the GM anyway? if they're the first, there's definitely some difficulties in developing the weapon. I know you might argue that the terrorist might have the capital or technique to do so, blah blah blah, but the problem is, where can they obtain the technique from? how do they have the place to store and develop the GM? you can't just blow up a rocket launcher and just make every part of it huge, and say it's a new weapon of the GM anyway..... just ignore me if what I say don't make sense...... Guerillas "rig" weapons in real warfare... We can assume they'd have primitive weapons - One-shot disposeable missile launchers, and 50-mm guns (which are tiny. Evan zakus had 100mm guns) The military ones would bring in large caliber weapons, which after deployment, we can see slowly falling into the hands of the enemy. My question was more about how the Guerillas would change the mecha's appearance and change them to claim them as their own.
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