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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:49 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Gah!   gonk   Lang, AD, anyone...  I desperately need reference pictures of the weapons used in IC, particularly Lang's gun.  I'm terrible with drawing guns, and my project involves drawing a lot of them...   sad          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:49 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Koji: My first one included a bid war between two halo users.  xd  I thought that was funny. But as far as auctions go, the most dependable person for anything (( bumps, attracting bidders, attention, etc )) is yourself. o_o just be patient and just keep on bumping. ^^ bids and bumps will come.  3nodding  Just be optimistic and other people will realize that too, and be more likely to stick around rather than be in an artist's thread where the artist themself isn't too sure of th- *just stops*  xd  I'm probably not making sense. 
  Iyou:  whee  aww~~  xd  I'll try. 
  I'll cover first what really to ME, makes an auction unsuccessful: 
  -People in a rush to get to the R&C/Undeveloped Artwork - most likely won't be anyone in GASOC.  whee  But some people who personally ask me over AIM or PM if they should start an auction usually go ahead and do it even when I advise them to wait a few months, then complain when it doesn't go well.  I know from experience and careful attention usually if their artwork will go well or not in R&C.  neutral  I try to be nice, but truthful foremost. I waited 3 months before my first, to get my art skills up a bit, and get to a point where I know I can at least try to venture in and sell art. 
  -Disorganization- Again, probably won't be anyone in GASOC.  xd  But make sure EVERYTHING looks nice. I was nagging at my friend for at least an hour to make him move his examples to the second post because squeezing it on the first post made my eyes bleed. x_____x;; I just don't like stretched posts. XD He reserved 8- might as well use them! 
  -Attitudes- I'm pretty sure no one in GASOC would have a problem with this.  xd  but there's been a few auctions with artists who are er... a bit.. o-O;; um, they think quite highly of themselves. XD;; sometimes they are just amazing, but the attitude can totally ruin artwork sometimes. I know personally I'm a bit turned off at the whole auction if I feel the artist did not present themselves in a nice respectful way on their front page. I also do prefer hosting the auction myself, so others can get to know me better. ^^
  And an artist's personality throughout the whole thing is very important. I was almost about to bid in someone's art auction, but I make it a rule to read through a few pages to find out the artist's personality a bit before I bid. Her attitude totally turned me off and I didn't want to bid after that. @_@ After 10 minutes of no bids, whining will probably turn off any other bidders. ~_^;; 
 
  -Leaving the auction- I really think it's important for an artist to stay in the thread and devote themselves to the auction. I CANNOT stress how important this is. To me, this shows that the artist really really cares for the auction and wishes it to succeed as much as they can. Time is an issue, but that's why we should choose a good time to make an auction too. A time we know WE can be there at least half the time, and have devoted friends the other half. 
  I've devoted about probably.. 150+ hours to one auction.o_o;; I'm just estimating.  xd  R&C  moves pretty fast, so the best way to get bids of course is to bump.But I think an auction has a nicer feel when the artist themselves are there. ^^ 
  -Small things- People take notice of the smallest things. Hired bumpers can mean the artist doesn't have time to take care of the auction, or they don't care enough about it- who knows? Each person will interpret everything differently. Putting the words "BID NOWWWWWWW~~" into the title MAY work. ~_^ but...it rarely does.  neutral  at least what I've seen. When I see that in a title in the R&C, I usually skip over it. To me, that shows impatience and rashness, qualities I'd rather not deal with if I were to bid. Course, that could also be seen from a different perspective- an attention getter, they were frustrated...etc. It all depends right? Course, there's no real way to catch ALL the small things. ^^;; some things that look fine to you might be iffy to someone else, which is why I recommend having a friend look over your posts before you open auction, just in case. ^_~ 
 
 
  When making an auction, remember.... 
  ... to reserve enough posts!  xd   ... it's safer to plan it out on notepad first, so you can go in, post your first post, reserve a few, go back and edit, and open auction in a matter of minutes, instead of waiting for a long time and letting peoples' attentions drift. ^^  ... to show that YOU are devoted to the auction, and will see it through no matter what.  3nodding  A bidder might be iffy on the art and HB, but if they see the artist devoted to the auction, that might be the deciding factor of whether they should bid or not. ... Always put your rules, what you will or will not draw, starting date, ending date, minimum increments, etc etc. Linking to GEN and saying you accept low,mid,or high GEN is important too. ^^  ... just have fun.  biggrin  if you show that you're enjoying it, other people will come, and your auction will be a success. ^_____^ 
 
  I think I'm missing a few things, but I'm just typing this as I go, so I'll come back and edit if I remember some stuff. XD 
 
  AD: They're asking me.  sweatdrop  I don't know if I want to yet though.
  and I got the ornament base.  ninja  I just have to finish the 8 commissions before I get to work on it. XD 
  Shiro:  whee  aww you remember the Nyome~~  biggrin  
  O_O;; my auction skillz0rs? XD 
  Axel:  xd  it's alright! Best decision I ever made, to draw that hat.  whee  Axel is one of my favorite people~~  4laugh   heart  
  Vee-Vee: If you mean High Bid "well" then yes it's possible. Luck plays a part in it all too. As for the name, it just takes some time to get your name out.  3nodding  Patience is all-important in the R&C.  ninja  I've been there since ...june? and I just now start to enjoy a bit of the popularity (( *hates saying that about herself* @____@ )) 
  As far as the top 10 go, I don't really mind what number they are.  xd  a lot of the R&C artists could be "ranked" high there, but we usually don't. I myself am afraid of art theft there, but if people want to post art, that's fine too.  whee  I just don't think it's all that special. 
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  @_______@ Okay. I hope this huge post I just made helped.  xd          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:55 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Nyome - Yay!   heart   That's really great advice - it made me realize I probably could have scheduled my auction at a better time (I was gone for about three days during the auction).  I'm copying that into notepad and saving it for future reference.   whee          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:57 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Iyou Gah!    gonk   Lang, AD, anyone...  I desperately need reference pictures of the weapons used in IC, particularly Lang's gun.  I'm terrible with drawing guns, and my project involves drawing a lot of them...    sad Lang's gun:  Walther P22 Guards' guns:  Beretta 96 (basic cop gun...?  I dunno.  Lang, any thoughts?) Nyome - Do you mind if I add that to the GASOC auction post?          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:59 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            And also, remember to make a banner and stuff before you start.  xd  VERY IMPORTANT. 
  There's also a specific way to get art out into the open.  ninja  I lurk in the Q&F, Exchange, Minishops, R&C, Welcome to Gaia, and Art discussion. ^^;; During an auction, posting at least once in each of the popular forums, even the discussions, is advised.  3nodding  After posting once, stay in the main money forums- Exchange and R&C.  ninja  
  When posting in another person's auction, BE CAREFUL. O_O;; Sometimes I forget I'm carrying my banner in my sig, and I post a  heart  in someone's auction to help them bump, but I remember when during my first auction, I thought it a bit insulting for another artist to just post a  domokun  or  heart  without really saying anything (( back then I was new, and still thought of it as disrespectful and sort of advertising ~_^ )) I also don't advise posting your own or something else's artwork in someone's auction thread, or talking about the "OMG AMAZING artwork" some other artist has.  neutral  That IS disrespectful to the artist, and it does hurt, cuz I've had that happen to me many times. Many of my original 1st auction friends have left, so no one really knows my little irks anymore. u_u and of course saying "omg shuttap about that artist/get that artwork OUTTA my thread" is horribly rude.  xd  But it's important to make it known that it IS your auction, and if something bugs you, it will not be tolerated. x_x 
  uh... I'll add to this as I think of more.  xd          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:04 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Iyou:  whee  which is why I plan mine around holidays/breaks. ^^;; 
  I also dont' recommend month-long auctions. Those just annoy me. @_@ 2 weeks is probably max. 
  AD:  whee  sure! ^^;; and if anyone has problems/questions after reading that, feel free to ask me.  3nodding          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:15 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Nyome - Well, it was around Thanksgiving break... I just happened to be away during Thanksgiving break.   sweatdrop  
  AD - Ooh!  Thanks muchly.   heart          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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			            *carves Nyome's words in stone*
  this is really helpful, thank you NYOME!!! *hugs*  heart          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:28 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Oni- Oh yes, so you've told me before, I'll just have to go scouting for these "special websites" you mention.  And I've posted them in Ash's quest but you never go dere x:
  Iyou + Shiro- With such an adorign fanbase, Adam West-Man may see the light of day yet..  And yes, Rainbow Batman is undoubtedly Batman's best moment in comics. Ever. I've actually seen a copy of that before I found it online. 
  AD-"Just go already before I start throwing stuff at your head"  xd          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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			            i don't remember the website! i just now there is one.  xp   the best thing to do is to go to the minishops.
  ash has a quest?
  yay! IC. i think i dreamed about IC once. i'm not to sure though.
  NYOME-  eek   wow. that helps.         
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:36 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Nyome - Righto.
  Iyou - Welcome!   whee   What are you up to, anyway...?
  ESC - AT j00R HEADZ!!!one!!  btw, I deleted your double post.  I make the same mistake all the time.  Thankfully, I also command the X button...
  oni - You dreamed IC?  o.O         
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:55 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Iyou: ^^ ahh~ ~I see.  whee  I was out to the movies or homeworking all that time.  xd  Just had to lag homework to teh computer. ;-; 
  Ryuu,Oni, anyone else who liked my babbling:  whee  thank you!  xd  
 
  la la~~ @_____@ doing stuff at the last minute is so fun.  xd          
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:00 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            AD - Your Christmas present.   xd  
  oni - Man, a few nights ago I had a dream just about reading the GASOC thread.  Not meeting anyone, not being in IC, just reading the thread. o_o;  I think it was some long post of Shiro's or something.         
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:03 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Oni- Yeah, just click on the big pic in his sig, where have YOU been? Square. Dreams.. or visions? What have I told you about eating from the bottles where you have to push down and twist? I should have never taught you how to do that.
  AD- Thank you, Owner of the X catchy And I laughed when I read that line I love sillyness in a serious situation, then I made a sad face 'cause I was left on another cliffhanger  sad <--         
        
        
		        
		         
     
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                     Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:20 pm
		     
             
             
             
                    
                        
                            
                                                                    
        
        
        
			            Iyou -  eek   heart   Don't TELL me things like that!  Now I'm going to have to sit and WONDER about it!   gonk !
  ESC - Yes.  I am evil and love cliffhangers.  Bwahaha.         
        
        
		        
		         
     
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