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 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:05 am
Osaka_DFA Well has anybody heard of the judgment day?
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:07 am
Quote: Quote: I learned, when you commit sin and don't repent at all when your saved ,future generation of your family can be cursed. The only loophole there is if you discover the curse you can destroy it by Faith,prayer and repentance. All it takes is one unforgiven mistake from your family's past. That... very OT now that I think about it. Since the death of Jesus, I don't really think that applies anymore. All the family curses, the animal sacrifices, the involved rituals were done away with when he came. But I think at this point in the thread are we arguing that indeed once saved is always saved, regardless of behavior after the fact. Personally, I don't think so. If you meant it in that moment but after a few weeks stopped praying, going to church, doing whatever you needed to to stay connected to God and went back to all your sinful ways without a second thought then, no, I don't think your name will be in that book at the end.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
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High-functioning Businesswoman
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:55 am
Quote: Quote: Well has anybody heard of the judgment day? The thing about the lacking of knowledge of the final days and the new beginning, is some churches don't have the guts to preach or teach about it.
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:46 pm
it is either Jesus or Satans kingdon. There is no amount of good deeds that you do that can impress the Lord most high. Issaih the prophet writes "All of our good work are like filthy dirty rags in the eyes of the Lord" Does this mean we should just go on sinning so that grace may abound by no means.
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:46 pm
We have to follow his commandments to produce fruit, You know god does not expect us to be perfect, but he expects us to repent.
Galatians 5:22-23 (NKJV): But the fruit of the spirit is Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such there is no law.
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:00 am
Quote: Quote: Quote: Well has anybody heard of the judgment day? The thing about the lacking of knowledge of the final days and the new beginning, is some churches don't have the guts to preach or teach about it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:04 am
Quote: Quote: Quote: I learned, when you commit sin and don't repent at all when your saved ,future generation of your family can be cursed. The only loophole there is if you discover the curse you can destroy it by Faith,prayer and repentance. All it takes is one unforgiven mistake from your family's past. That... very OT now that I think about it. Since the death of Jesus, I don't really think that applies anymore. All the family curses, the animal sacrifices, the involved rituals were done away with when he came. But I think at this point in the thread are we arguing that indeed once saved is always saved, regardless of behavior after the fact. Personally, I don't think so. If you meant it in that moment but after a few weeks stopped praying, going to church, doing whatever you needed to to stay connected to God and went back to all your sinful ways without a second thought then, no, I don't think your name will be in that book at the end.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
I ask because Fushigi might be interested.
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:31 am
Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I learned, when you commit sin and don't repent at all when your saved ,future generation of your family can be cursed. The only loophole there is if you discover the curse you can destroy it by Faith,prayer and repentance. All it takes is one unforgiven mistake from your family's past. That... very OT now that I think about it. Since the death of Jesus, I don't really think that applies anymore. All the family curses, the animal sacrifices, the involved rituals were done away with when he came. But I think at this point in the thread are we arguing that indeed once saved is always saved, regardless of behavior after the fact. Personally, I don't think so. If you meant it in that moment but after a few weeks stopped praying, going to church, doing whatever you needed to to stay connected to God and went back to all your sinful ways without a second thought then, no, I don't think your name will be in that book at the end.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
I ask because Fushigi might be interested.I definitely think that is a definite possibility. My family has a LONG history of addiction and substance abuse, even those who moved away from home at an early age. Which is why I will never so much as touch alcohol. Scared stiff. I do so much believe in generational curses.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:00 am
Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I learned, when you commit sin and don't repent at all when your saved ,future generation of your family can be cursed. The only loophole there is if you discover the curse you can destroy it by Faith,prayer and repentance. All it takes is one unforgiven mistake from your family's past. That... very OT now that I think about it. Since the death of Jesus, I don't really think that applies anymore. All the family curses, the animal sacrifices, the involved rituals were done away with when he came. But I think at this point in the thread are we arguing that indeed once saved is always saved, regardless of behavior after the fact. Personally, I don't think so. If you meant it in that moment but after a few weeks stopped praying, going to church, doing whatever you needed to to stay connected to God and went back to all your sinful ways without a second thought then, no, I don't think your name will be in that book at the end.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
I ask because Fushigi might be interested.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:27 pm
Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I learned, when you commit sin and don't repent at all when your saved ,future generation of your family can be cursed. The only loophole there is if you discover the curse you can destroy it by Faith,prayer and repentance. All it takes is one unforgiven mistake from your family's past. That... very OT now that I think about it. Since the death of Jesus, I don't really think that applies anymore. All the family curses, the animal sacrifices, the involved rituals were done away with when he came. But I think at this point in the thread are we arguing that indeed once saved is always saved, regardless of behavior after the fact. Personally, I don't think so. If you meant it in that moment but after a few weeks stopped praying, going to church, doing whatever you needed to to stay connected to God and went back to all your sinful ways without a second thought then, no, I don't think your name will be in that book at the end.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
I ask because Fushigi might be interested.true, true. but at the same time... why is prison ministry so effective? because the people there know that they have sinned, and are hurt, broken and looking for a way of forgiveness. In the same way, so are the people in the addictive lifestyle, know that they are sinning, and sometimes want a way out.
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:05 am
Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I learned, when you commit sin and don't repent at all when your saved ,future generation of your family can be cursed. The only loophole there is if you discover the curse you can destroy it by Faith,prayer and repentance. All it takes is one unforgiven mistake from your family's past. That... very OT now that I think about it. Since the death of Jesus, I don't really think that applies anymore. All the family curses, the animal sacrifices, the involved rituals were done away with when he came. But I think at this point in the thread are we arguing that indeed once saved is always saved, regardless of behavior after the fact. Personally, I don't think so. If you meant it in that moment but after a few weeks stopped praying, going to church, doing whatever you needed to to stay connected to God and went back to all your sinful ways without a second thought then, no, I don't think your name will be in that book at the end.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
I ask because Fushigi might be interested.
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:41 pm
Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I learned, when you commit sin and don't repent at all when your saved ,future generation of your family can be cursed. The only loophole there is if you discover the curse you can destroy it by Faith,prayer and repentance. All it takes is one unforgiven mistake from your family's past. That... very OT now that I think about it. Since the death of Jesus, I don't really think that applies anymore. All the family curses, the animal sacrifices, the involved rituals were done away with when he came. But I think at this point in the thread are we arguing that indeed once saved is always saved, regardless of behavior after the fact. Personally, I don't think so. If you meant it in that moment but after a few weeks stopped praying, going to church, doing whatever you needed to to stay connected to God and went back to all your sinful ways without a second thought then, no, I don't think your name will be in that book at the end.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
I ask because Fushigi might be interested.You know... I am pretty sure God is merciful enough to cure all generational curses.
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:14 pm
Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I think feeling saved and being saved are two different things. But also, arguing that "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" is the basis for salvation is implying that we must actually do something other than accepting Jesus in order to be saved.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
I ask because Fushigi might be interested.You know... I am pretty sure God is merciful enough to cure all generational curses.
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:11 am
Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I learned, when you commit sin and don't repent at all when your saved ,future generation of your family can be cursed. The only loophole there is if you discover the curse you can destroy it by Faith,prayer and repentance. All it takes is one unforgiven mistake from your family's past. That... very OT now that I think about it. Since the death of Jesus, I don't really think that applies anymore. All the family curses, the animal sacrifices, the involved rituals were done away with when he came. But I think at this point in the thread are we arguing that indeed once saved is always saved, regardless of behavior after the fact. Personally, I don't think so. If you meant it in that moment but after a few weeks stopped praying, going to church, doing whatever you needed to to stay connected to God and went back to all your sinful ways without a second thought then, no, I don't think your name will be in that book at the end.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
I ask because Fushigi might be interested.true, true. but at the same time... why is prison ministry so effective? because the people there know that they have sinned, and are hurt, broken and looking for a way of forgiveness. In the same way, so are the people in the addictive lifestyle, know that they are sinning, and sometimes want a way out. Some people go through life justifying there own sins and trying to claim innocence in other words they are just being ignorant and rebellious.
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:17 am
Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I think feeling saved and being saved are two different things. But also, arguing that "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" is the basis for salvation is implying that we must actually do something other than accepting Jesus in order to be saved.
Another interesting point to note is that living in the world is alot like being addicted. One can choose to leave this life behind and follow Jesus, but every now and then we fall off the wagon, and then we try again and pick up recovery, following after Jesus. It goes back and forth. It's a process, a journey, and we all fall off the wagon now and again. So when someone stops "doing what it takes to stay connected to God" who's to say they aren't still sincere in their hearts and are just having a rough time?
I ask because Fushigi might be interested.You know... I am pretty sure God is merciful enough to cure all generational curses.
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