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 Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:15 pm
arigatougozaimasu, Umar-san biggrin
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:49 pm
Uh huh, and besides the obvious, what do we mean with that?
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:22 pm
dang battlenet is bein' a hater again tonight. sad
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:27 am
umaeril Uh huh, and besides the obvious, what do we mean with that? ehhh? O_o not sure what ye are speaking of, lass Citizen Swooboo dang battlenet is bein' a hater again tonight. sad Yeah, tell me about it. sad Wait, you don't have to...I was there! :O
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:13 pm
I just was not sure why you were thanking me.
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:38 pm
I still have not quite learned just what it is to get people to change, or to act. I was prepared to say, that people don't change until they are ready to, no matter how much they want to be ready. Willpower confuses me too. Everything can't be about willpower. There is an agent before willpower. Perhaps it is the fight against apathy. Or the desire to reach potential. Well, I am speaking in too broad of terms to reach a useful conclusion.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:15 am
umaeril I just was not sure why you were thanking me. oh, for helping? and being there to tell me, "hey you! yes, you!" Citizen Swooboo I still have not quite learned just what it is to get people to change, or to act. I was prepared to say, that people don't change until they are ready to, no matter how they want to be ready. Willpower confuses me too. Everything can't be about willpower. There is an agent before willpower. Perhaps it is the fight against apathy. Or the desire to reach potential. Well, I am speaking in too broad of terms to reach a useful conclusion. Yeah, swoobs, I'm equally confused. In my experience it is always very difficult to simply *will* yourself to do something. I've personally found that everytime I've tried to *force* myself to do something I meet an equally if not greater oppossing force making me *not* want to do that something even more. Most anything I've actually ever done I did because I genuinely wanted to do it, or I needed to do it to get something I want. Which is why doing things that are necessary for me is so difficult right now...I guess I just don't nkow how to make myself *want* something I don't want? hmm...CONFUSION!
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:22 pm
Yeah, I agree about willpower, it is not the motivating force. For some people motivation has to come from being so uncomfortable that it overcomes idle inertia. Inertia is what makes it easy to continue doing what one is doing. Some painful stimulus has to come along to get things moving.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:05 am
umaeril Yeah, I agree about willpower, it is not the motivating force. For some people motivation has to come from being so uncomfortable that it overcomes idle inertia. Inertia is what makes it easy to continue doing what one is doing. Some painful stimulus has to come along to get things moving. Ehhh, I'm not sure it necessarily has to be painful stimulus, but I think it has to be some sort of stimulus. In either case--painful or not--its consequence is a benefitting effect, one would think!
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:41 pm
Most of the stimuli that gets you off your butt and moving is painful. Like the realization that if one does not do something then one will be utterly alone all one's life. Yeah, I would say that is a painful stimulus. I am trying to think of a non painful stimulus as a motivating factor, but I can't. Maybe the yearning for adventure. However, that would spring from painful realization of how mundane one's life is.
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:00 pm
Eh, actually, the sort of pain stimulus you just described would force me to just curl up more than anything!
Non-painful stimuli? What about love? or sex? Or the opportunity of acquiring something specific, like a game, or a book, or a new computer? Or meeting a personal goal?
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:50 pm
Nah, those things are all painful. Love does not motivate you to get off your a**, lack of love motivates you. The same with sex. If you want something specific that is because you don't have it! Hence the pain.
Ok, on some level I am going overboard with this, I admit.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:18 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:09 am
xp
*pinches you* Here...have some pain! *runs off*
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:43 pm
All that did is made me wanna cry! crying
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