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Umaeril
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:23 pm


Did you have fun? I don't think they would be very fun.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:32 pm


It was fun coz I get to see my best friend after like 4 years since she migrated in Australia 10 years ago...^_^ And it's the first time I've met her husband so, and it's her first time meeting mine.. blaugh

calypso-maru


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:02 pm


I am more a fan of the receptions myself mrgreen
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:19 pm


receptions are the bestest! especially if its buffet! 4laugh rofl

calypso-maru


Umaeril
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:57 am


Mmmm cake. Yeah, ok, well the reception can be fun. And the dressing up. But for the most part they strike me as being a tad boring and fraught with danger of divorce for the couple that just tied the knot.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:15 pm


I love cake too!!! *drools*

In my country, we don't can't see it that way, because divorce is not legal here since our country is quite religious...and the church here has almost equal power as the government over the people...so while not all marriages here have happy endings, our church and government do not encourage them to split, thus encouraging them to seek their differences and talk it out...couples who can't sort out their differences end up separated but not divorced...

calypso-maru


Umaeril
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:39 pm


calypso-maru
I love cake too!!! *drools*

In my country, we don't can't see it that way, because divorce is not legal here since our country is quite religious...and the church here has almost equal power as the government over the people...so while not all marriages here have happy endings, our church and government do not encourage them to split, thus encouraging them to seek their differences and talk it out...couples who can't sort out their differences end up separated but not divorced...

That would be Catholicism? How interesting. It occurs to me that the Middle East has the same aspect of religious control. That is familar to me. But the same kind of control is exercised elsewhere as well but I had not realized it...or thought about it I guess.

I will be honest with you...I would be afraid to live in a place where religious leaders had any say or control over me. I have been to places like that, I mean, Thailand and Nepal, but it didn't impact on me much (aside from no one offered me alcohol since I look middle eastern).
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:32 pm


*Chews Guild* Mmm tasty! xd rofl

Cherry Milkshake


calypso-maru

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:13 am


umaeril
calypso-maru
I love cake too!!! *drools*

In my country, we don't can't see it that way, because divorce is not legal here since our country is quite religious...and the church here has almost equal power as the government over the people...so while not all marriages here have happy endings, our church and government do not encourage them to split, thus encouraging them to seek their differences and talk it out...couples who can't sort out their differences end up separated but not divorced...

That would be Catholicism? How interesting. It occurs to me that the Middle East has the same aspect of religious control. That is familar to me. But the same kind of control is exercised elsewhere as well but I had not realized it...or thought about it I guess.

I will be honest with you...I would be afraid to live in a place where religious leaders had any say or control over me. I have been to places like that, I mean, Thailand and Nepal, but it didn't impact on me much (aside from no one offered me alcohol since I look middle eastern).


I know what you mean, my generation somehow understood what the priests and other religious sects are supposed to be in our lives making us less religious actually, the people attending church are diminishing in numbers and are less trusting of priests...and there aren't a lot of young boys wanting to become priests either..the religious acts and ceremonies passed on (like weddings) and taught to us we're more seen now as traditions rather than religious celebrations..

Honestly, Filipinos are used to that kind of set-up...our country was colonized by three other countries for almost a hundred years..so our ancestors never really knew anything but obey, whether the command came from Spaniards, Japanese, Americans or Vatican...And that's why most of my countrymen would rather slave themselves to other country to gain money, than be free in their own country and have rather meager earnings...it's not about being rich...Filipinos never really understood what independence is...

Sad, but true...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:38 pm


4laugh

Cherry Milkshake


Umaeril
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:54 am


calypso-maru
umaeril
calypso-maru
I love cake too!!! *drools*

In my country, we don't can't see it that way, because divorce is not legal here since our country is quite religious...and the church here has almost equal power as the government over the people...so while not all marriages here have happy endings, our church and government do not encourage them to split, thus encouraging them to seek their differences and talk it out...couples who can't sort out their differences end up separated but not divorced...

That would be Catholicism? How interesting. It occurs to me that the Middle East has the same aspect of religious control. That is familar to me. But the same kind of control is exercised elsewhere as well but I had not realized it...or thought about it I guess.

I will be honest with you...I would be afraid to live in a place where religious leaders had any say or control over me. I have been to places like that, I mean, Thailand and Nepal, but it didn't impact on me much (aside from no one offered me alcohol since I look middle eastern).


I know what you mean, my generation somehow understood what the priests and other religious sects are supposed to be in our lives making us less religious actually, the people attending church are diminishing in numbers and are less trusting of priests...and there aren't a lot of young boys wanting to become priests either..the religious acts and ceremonies passed on (like weddings) and taught to us we're more seen now as traditions rather than religious celebrations..

Honestly, Filipinos are used to that kind of set-up...our country was colonized by three other countries for almost a hundred years..so our ancestors never really knew anything but obey, whether the command came from Spaniards, Japanese, Americans or Vatican...And that's why most of my countrymen would rather slave themselves to other country to gain money, than be free in their own country and have rather meager earnings...it's not about being rich...Filipinos never really understood what independence is...

Sad, but true...


But it does sound like the religious leaders have a lot of control over what you do there. I mean, that not being able to divorce thing is strange to me. But you are saying that religion is becoming less of an influence overall? I wonder, though you say that Filipinos are used to it, if you are not in a process of evolution as we speak. Maybe slow evolution. And I am not saying that the way you might be evolving is right or wrong, that is not for me to say. Just questioning if it is possibly happening.

In some places we are seeing a lessening of the influence of blind religious precepts, dogma and dictum, and more influence of the rights of the individual. Except some places where there is a strong backlash against personal freedoms, probably out of an underlying fear of losing control. Maybe it is all about power in the end.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:35 pm


umaeril

But it does sound like the religious leaders have a lot of control over what you do there. I mean, that not being able to divorce thing is strange to me. But you are saying that religion is becoming less of an influence overall? I wonder, though you say that Filipinos are used to it, if you are not in a process of evolution as we speak. Maybe slow evolution. And I am not saying that the way you might be evolving is right or wrong, that is not for me to say. Just questioning if it is possibly happening.

In some places we are seeing a lessening of the influence of blind religious precepts, dogma and dictum, and more influence of the rights of the individual. Except some places where there is a strong backlash against personal freedoms, probably out of an underlying fear of losing control. Maybe it is all about power in the end.
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Yes, religious leaders have an invisible hold over our government, because every law has to be good in the church's eyes before it passes...But yes, religion here is becoming less of an influence..but I'm speaking in behalf of the Catholics, the Muslim community (almost 30% of our population) however are more solid in terms of their religious beliefs...

I cannot blame the government with that though, coz they themselves are religious and concedes to what the church believe is right for the common good...and for the Filipinos, as long as it's not Martial Law, it's ok...

I don't think it's slow evolution, I think, Filipinos still tie themselves to the values they've grown accustomed to because they feel safer that way...

About the divorce, most of us agree on divorce not being implemented because it's impractical...why marry someone if you're not sure about spending the rest of your life with him?

our generation think of marriage as a formality..not really as a sacrament..so we are opened to couples living together before they get married, which is also not good in the eyes of the church, but what the heck...

Being married then getting divorced it's a waste of time and money..and that's what most Filipinos doesn't have..

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calypso-maru


Umaeril
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:50 pm


Very interesting. Well I will have to mull that over a bit. Quite the cultural difference. I think all Americans should be exposed to other countries and other ways of doing things. We are too insular. But of course not all Americans have the means to visit other cultures. And some are just plain stupid anyhow, like people everywhere. Sorry, went on a bit of a tangent there. ^^
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:16 pm


Did I miss something here? sweatdrop

Cherry Milkshake


calypso-maru

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:07 am


umaeril
Very interesting. Well I will have to mull that over a bit. Quite the cultural difference. I think all Americans should be exposed to other countries and other ways of doing things. We are too insular. But of course not all Americans have the means to visit other cultures. And some are just plain stupid anyhow, like people everywhere. Sorry, went on a bit of a tangent there. ^^
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blaugh Well, I guess we Filipinos have an advantage on that part..coz we can expose ourselves to your culture even if we don't have the means to go there, through media..most of your shows there are also shown here..and because most of the Filipinos understands English (because it's in our curriculum since Prep School), it's easier for us to adapt to your culture..that's why most of us would rather be there than in other countries coz we feel we can adapt in the US more..

On the otherhand, even if some of our shows are being aired there, it'll be difficult still to understand because of the language barrier..

...and yeah, MTV is the Devil! rofl

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