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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:20 pm
Yea, but I love the rest of America, aside from George W. Bush. He needs to be shot. Like, now.
Not all people are as stupid as him. You must understand, it is easy to brainwash our American neighbours. So, if they think their freedom is being threatened, they're going to vote for the guy who can stop it.
Not everyone can be as smart as us. (:
...then again, Canada's freedom is rarely threatened...
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:39 pm
`Kaede Yes, our new captain is half Deimos and half Ihabia... the mind of Deimos, but the body of Ihabia. Except dyed blue. o___o;
I guess i should visit here more often. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:22 pm
R i o k u Yea, but I love the rest of America, aside from George W. Bush. He needs to be shot. Like, now.
Not all people are as stupid as him. You must understand, it is easy to brainwash our American neighbours. So, if they think their freedom is being threatened, they're going to vote for the guy who can stop it.
Not everyone can be as smart as us. (:
...then again, Canada's freedom is rarely threatened...Tell me something; do you really think you could do his job better? Don't answer that right away. Think about it. Think about it really hard. Think about the pressure of being the most powerful person in the world. Think about the pressure to keep the people who voted for you happy while still acting on behalf of the country. Think about the enormous pressure from other countries, allied, enemies, and neutrals alike. Think about all that, and ask yourself, can you really do a better job? The man may not be the best one for the job, but I think that he is acting to the best of his ability.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:52 pm
I wouldn't even want to try. Too much pressure to please everyone, which is nearly impossible, anyway. Too much stress.
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:56 pm
I agree with Shaz, and I don't completely support this idea, but I think Bush is a very brilliant man.
As for the whole Deimos, captain and Ihabia thing...
1] As I was going through the last pages posts, when I first read the Deimo's post, I was sure it was Ihabia that was writting it because I simply glanced at the avatar without looking at the gaian name. xDDDDD
2] This all funny and I won't be logging much on either until the 25th of may, which is my friggin last final exam, and it had to be calculus...TT----TT
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:27 pm
Beloved Despot will be back in time to see me become a man*. But you will not. This makes me sad; I was hoping that all my guild chums would get to share in the experience. D:
*19th birthday is on the 12th, thus making me 'legal', so to speak. What did you think I meant by 'become a man'?.....oh. OH! You perverts. D:<
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:25 am
Shazbot_the_Pirate Tell me something; do you really think you could do his job better? Don't answer that right away. Think about it. Think about it really hard. Think about the pressure of being the most powerful person in the world. Think about the pressure to keep the people who voted for you happy while still acting on behalf of the country. Think about the enormous pressure from other countries, allied, enemies, and neutrals alike. Think about all that, and ask yourself, can you really do a better job? The man may not be the best one for the job, but I think that he is acting to the best of his ability. Thank you. You forgot, "think about the pressure of over half the world hating you for your mistakes."
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:07 am
ehhhh politics.... *flees*
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:09 am
Ok, not only did Bush's congressmen admit that their efforts in Iraq are failing, but he just vetoed a request to pull the troops out.
It took him a week to get aid down to New Orleans. Canada was there before Bush was.
He is not smart, he is not trustworthy, the only thing Bush wants is power. There is a problem with that. A very big problem when a man like him is in charge of the most powerful country on the planet.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:44 am
Shazbot_the_Pirate Beloved Despot will be back in time to see me become a man*. But you will not. This makes me sad; I was hoping that all my guild chums would get to share in the experience. D: *19th birthday is on the 12th, thus making me 'legal', so to speak. What did you think I meant by 'become a man'?.....oh. OH! You perverts. D:< I'll be there with bells on it. wink heart
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:40 am
R i o k u Ok, not only did Bush's congressmen admit that their efforts in Iraq are failing, but he just vetoed a request to pull the troops out.
It took him a week to get aid down to New Orleans. Canada was there before Bush was.
He is not smart, he is not trustworthy, the only thing Bush wants is power. There is a problem with that. A very big problem when a man like him is in charge of the most powerful country on the planet. Errors in judgment; do you make them? You make it sound like you expect him to be the perfect leader. Sure, sitting at the helm of a ship like the States takes no small amount of skill, but being the president does not automatically make you a god. He's a mortal, like you and I. He has flaws and makes mistakes, like you and I. Cut him some slack.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:50 am
Shazbot_the_Pirate R i o k u Ok, not only did Bush's congressmen admit that their efforts in Iraq are failing, but he just vetoed a request to pull the troops out.
It took him a week to get aid down to New Orleans. Canada was there before Bush was.
He is not smart, he is not trustworthy, the only thing Bush wants is power. There is a problem with that. A very big problem when a man like him is in charge of the most powerful country on the planet. Errors in judgment; do you make them? You make it sound like you expect him to be the perfect leader. Sure, sitting at the helm of a ship like the States takes no small amount of skill, but being the president does not automatically make you a god. He's a mortal, like you and I. He has flaws and makes mistakes, like you and I. Cut him some slack. I expect very little of Bush. I do not think he is a perfect leader nor do I expect him to be.
It is when you don't take responsibilities for your mistakes and you refuse to acknowledge them that problems arise.
I don't know what you might define as the job of a president, but I know if I was electing a leader, I would go for one who would ensure the safety of me and my people. And I should hope when a plan fails my leader has the common sense to recognize that mistake and make an effort to change it. Not just completely ignore the fact that men and women are dying in a country that really has little law. I should also hope that my leader respects the wishes of their people and not spend 128 billion of their tax dollars on a war no one wants.
But I will assume from your point of view that the qualities you look for in a leader differ from mine.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:04 am
The thing about president Bush is that he's frequently made the scapegoat for international plight. Though this may be partly deserved, I think the situation has been exacerbated by liberals and the media.
He's an easy target, as leader of the most powerful nation in the world (not just militarily, either).
First and foremost, it would be futile to deny that the man has made some brash, stupid decisions. Namely going into Iraq without consent from the United Nations, an international community of support. On the other side of the coin, the UN is a rather convoluted agency where action is taken at a snail's pace. The decision the president made, to invade before ascertaining said support, was a calcuated on a cost / benefit paradigm.
Certainly if Iraq had been concealing weapons of mass destruction, people would be praising his palpable results. But as it turned out, he was wrong.
The intelligence was wrong.
That doesn't mean he should be hung by his genitals.
Kennedy nearly made a decision that could've costed the world on a scale that dwarfs anything we have ever seen. But as it turned out, thanks to some shred of appropriate intelligence (from key advisors), crisis was averted. No one remembers Kennedy as the man who almost wrought mankind's destruction. Who has his finger on the trigger of nuclear holocaust.
And in many, many years, people won't remember Bush as the man who invaded Iraq under erroneous pretenses. They'll remember him as the man who liberated a Middle Eastern country from the despotism of a tyrant. Who created the possibility for democracy, who fostered the eventual self-sustaining, humanitarian, allied economy that Iraq will someday become. It ensures a future of security, at least in regards to one nation. No one said the road was going to be an easy one.
Still, I think Iraq was in large a mistake, and that of course translates onto the executive.
Not that Hussein shouldn't have been toppled from power. But because now US troops are bogged down in an error of calculation, while Iran gloats about amounting nuclear capability. Keep an eye on Iran.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:01 pm
I can also see a bit of a problem with troop withdrawal.
It's kind of like this: you wake up one morning to the sound of a construction crew smashing through your house. Wrecking balls, backhoes, the whole deal. When your house is about half-destroyed, they realize that they were supposed to be wrecking the guy next door. Obviously, you're pretty pissed off, so they agree to help build your home.
It's the same with Iraq, except by the time the wrecking crew got to work, the house was already pretty dilapidated. Now, they have to help stabilize an already horrendously unstable region.
Here's the kicker, though. They have become so integral to the stabilization of the region, that they fear there is no safe way to remove themselves. They have become, essentially, one of the primary support pillars. If they remove themselves too soon, the whole region collapses and we're back to square one.
Pulling out of Iraq before we're certain that the house is solid is not only not in the best interest of the States (shoddy workmanship stains the record), it's not in the best interest of Iraq either (nothing worse than having your roof fall on you while you're asleep).
Most people say "It's not our problem! We shouldn't be in there in the first place! Let the Iraqi's solve their own problems!" Yeah, we've been trying that for a while now, and if the tyranny of Hussein isn't an indication of the outcome, I don't know what is. This is a new form of government for them; essentially, a new way of life. We can't just leave it with them without helping them set it all up and making sure it's working properly; push the wrong combination of buttons, and the whole thing might explode back to dictatorship.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:11 pm
But I am not saying troops in Iraq should just up and leave. I am aware it is unstable and I am also aware of the tight spot the US is in right now.
However, there is really no point in helping a people who doesn't want the help. Not to say no one in Iraq wants the aid and protection the US provides, but enough people in Iraq also want the US to get the hell out of there.
George Bush gives American People a really bad name. I doubt his intentions for going into Iraq were valid, I think he was trying to finish what his father started as well as protect the wealth of oil in that region. There were no weapons of mass destruction. What sort of Person of Power goes through with a war because of a floating idea? That's like someone saying "I think so and so is going to kill you tomorrow," so, you kill them first instead. Except in this case, thousands of people have died.
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