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 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:57 pm
You see the thing is that I'm giving reference to a specific guild but I'm not focusing on only that guild. Really I thinking in the general sense of how events occur and what it means to hold a title or alignment. Which is the reason why I whole heartily agree that the choice of a guild to change it's direction is always there ( and their's), but with character and purpose gives choice. We make our choices, but they also make use really.
As for speculation on what the guild stands for is really free to the people as soon as they've made a daybue. mind you I say this keeping in mind that I'm up for public opinion as well, and my actions in the recent event dose (should) leave a few questions or opinions on things. If I did my job well, or if the readers are paying attention to my little hints. Also there's no reason for Tereus to have to say it as gently as possible, it's a frank subject, and an open conversation. It's in one direction in reference right now, but as I've just did I've also put my own guild up for consideration in our actions. Not to make some defined judgment, really everyone's free to make their judgments. Knowing or not we all make some judgments just to get a feel for what a "character" is like. Things like reoccurring actions and what not all build into this judged character and leaves use with an opinion, right or wrong who's to say. (contrast from the assumed or stated personality gives ideas too)
Also I've also said in my previous statements that I too believe that they may have reasons for their actions. Which could make senes if it's given with some sense. Yet that's for the writers to decide and work on if not obviously not already conceived. I mean no slander in stating this lens of insight. So yeah this is what I was talking about, the plausible causes of action and the sense behind it ( reasoning may vary). We have no control over what they do as they don't with others yet talking about the way it may influence story or the general world seems interesting and may give birth to idea's and other plots. More to my interest my own guild is really just up in the air for conversation. I don't expect someone to come out and just blurt out the plots point, that's just spoiling it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:10 am
It just goes back to what he said earlier. The point in Tereus saying it nicely is to not sound rude is the point in him speaking that way. If he flat out said it's there business not yours or mine, it could be taken in wrongly. So while it can be a frank subject, it can turn into something different, I'm sure you're familiar with how that goes.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:16 am
Sure, but even when not saying it frankly, he's still making that point and that's introducing the whole emo-drama thing in a filter( which I was ignoring to avoid said bit). So my subject isn't wrong on any other standard from what I've gotten. Other than it might be ill received and the more sensitive members may see it as a judgment of them and not their interest in plot. Which isn't emotionally tied to them as far as they let it. Which we're advised to keep in mind the distance between RPC and OOC.
If it bothers someone I'd be okay with just cutting my conversation piece but I'd ask for what negatives do they conceive to be the result of me simply letting the conversation organically play out? What dose someone have to fear from my words? If not fear, then what would it be?
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:27 am
Well while your perspective of emo-drama may be one thing, someone else's may be different so let's be respectful. Also no one spoke of fear, only you. Don't know where that came from but maybe you just misunderstood something.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:35 am
Yes, I said it(fear) in the context of what's going on (being said) and I wasn't outright asked to stop. Rather I was roughly opposed with a reoccurring statment which wasn't making really any headway against my reason for saying all this, purposely speaking. I'm respectful to most anyone who shows it to me and even those who don't, but not everyone's going to do as another says just because they feel some personal perspective of what their(my) talking is doing. I say fear because to me that's one of the few notions that someone would react to what I'm saying in that way. If confident in yourself or the convictions you stand by what dose opinion do to you?
I could say Rp wise it(opinion) has it's place but it really might not last as choices change along the way. Which was something we all agreed on. =3
Now as we're talking we're going into more detail than I could with Tereus simply restating, it really was scarcely a conversation.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:47 am
Note it isn't really that deep. Also just because a said person disagrees with something you say in their own manner doesn't mean they aren't making sense, you lost them, or they aren't making headway. Keep that in mind.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:53 am
I have and I was making a statement as for him to clarify, but you've already done so for him. Yet I still don't find any equally fair reason for me or him, that I should cut my conversation topic. I wasn't making any assumptions out right, rather asking question for him or yourself to clarify and as a individual I retain some conceptions that come to mind in specific situations. Never said I was out right in the right about things . Yet I do say that I've got no good reason to stop talking to whomever responds. Disagreements make thing interesting and since anyone can disagree with me I'm all for talking about the disagreement and the reasons behind it, being emotional or logical (emotional logic being in the eye of the beholder).
So I'd say this was nice to talk trough with you.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:00 am
Well no one asked you to stop talking or stop the conversation. I only remember you saying you were going to drop the conversation with him earlier because you interpreted that he was avoiding your point. I'm just conversing as well.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:11 am
Ah~ so your picking up where he left off or my choice to leave the stunted conversation between him and myself. I dropped that conversation to save use the whole drama I was getting the feeling it was building towards despite my intention to avoid it. Yet I was still interested to hear from those who had a voice about what I was saying and wanted to urge them to still speak up. Some people may be hesitant because they don't want to come into this small dispute. Yet from talking to you the point i made above really stands as the point in our conversation so far. As for my original topic about guild personalities and characteristics, I'm still not sure what others who feel okay with talking about it think ( I do get what you guys feel, but it's not my focus of the conversation). So far I've kinda been using my minds detail to context to remember every word you and he's said, and put it into consideration because out of respect you deserve to be heard and your opinion has some importance. (out of respect)
Still that point of me having no reason not to talk to those who wish to talk to me still prevails as a right I retain in not seeking any drama and avoiding it. Well mostly avoiding it since I sort of did bump into it, but being civil people it was barely any type of drama. So what's up, do you want to talk about something else or do you want to continue? with what? I'm not sure from here.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:21 am
Neither. The only thing he was doing was restating his point, so there was nothing to avoid from him. So if you were avoiding something, perhaps you were avoiding from doing something yourself since he was clearly repeating his statement. Subject wise, doesn't matter where it goes. I'm all game for anything. Just conversing here.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:34 am
Which lead me to restatement/elaboration which from his response didn't show that he took much recognition of what I was saying. In comparison to your own handling of the conversation I'd say he'd certainly could of been more pliable to listening.
What I wasn't doing was ending my topic of interest and I've spent my post stating why I wasn't going to just suddenly cut the topic up for discussion . It wasn't avoidance, but more defense of my reasoning and purpose for talking about it. If anything I looked at what he was saying but it really didn't have much behind it in context and sub-text.
If your game for talking about it, then what do you think of things as they're going now or the guilds as they've formed so far. I myself understand reserving judgment to make the more intellectually informed judgment to move forward from or think about. Yet right now it's something up for thought as things are pretty focused on it as of late. Yet I'm curious about all the guilds and even reverie and her ideas for working her guild into the termiana universe and how stable some of her claims maybe or may not be. Really information is what's lacking in some terms, but then we have the ability to fill it as we go along building the world with ourselves and stories. so it can become a complex creature if we let. Question, What information stands as true? If it's embellished in a profile or a post, dose it make it true, and how long will that be true?
It's all interesting stuff and it all might change how one might conceive a plot and set it in motion. We're all open to tripping over each others threads of plot and story now and it's anyone's game for what may draw more attention of being cosigned by other members by participation and belief. Though I'm just talking plot dynamic.
W000T!!! #1000!!!!, this number has just been reaped!!! =3
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:30 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:32 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:14 pm
Oi well it depends on how you read what i said. It goes back to when he said just because you don't agree with something, doesn't mean it doesn't have context behind it or that it doesn't make sense mate. I've seen you do this on more than one occasion already.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:15 pm
Very true. Just let it ride Tereus, you'll be going back and forth with this. wink
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