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[Sey]

I have to wait for people to keep posting. :< People like you!


As for that thing that you spoke of~



... MAYBE WHEN I'M RETIRED! blaugh  

[Hi Im Reiko]

*Grabs Sey and loves*  

[Dumble Dee]

You'd think if you're afraid of heights and someone pushes you out of a plane, that would make you more afraid.

If someone hid spiders in my bed... After the paralysis wears off, I'd shank them nice and good. You guys are horrible friends. I'm surprised he still talks to you.  

[Hi Im Reiko]

You don't ******** with a place where someone lays their head to rest.

White people are nuts.  

[The Thunder Tyrant]

If I were afraid of spiders.. and someone put spiders into my bed.. I'd probably still be afraid of them.

I mean, that's kind of different than being forced to face the fear, unless you tell the guy beforehand.

Going on a plane and "having" to skydive is different than unknowingly having spiders put into your bed. The first can just be accepted as an inevitability. The second is probably just going to freak someone the ******** out in most cases, especially when you're talking about a phobia involving animals.

If I have a phobia of snakes, throwing me into a snake pit at random is not going to cure me. Not if I have an actual phobia. Convincing me to touch a snake, then to hold it, then to hold it for extended periods, would cure my fear, because I would be forced to rationalize that there's nothing to be afraid of.

Slightly off topic, but snakes are awesome, and I've never had a fear of them in my life, iirc.  

[Sey]

Dee... Does your avatar have a bird cooking in it's flaming hair?


gonk  

[Dumble Dee]

Penguin. Tasty, tasty penguin.  

[Enness Vakar]

Deegrading

If someone hid spiders in my bed... After the paralysis wears off, I'd shank them nice and good. You guys are horrible friends. I'm surprised he still talks to you.

This. Minus the paralysis. So straight from seeing spiders in my bed to the shanking.  

[Sey]

lol. That's how I felt about it for the longest time since most of the writing I've been doing is boring political analysis crap. It's infecting my prose. gonk  

[Rising Hourglass]

Jumping out of a plane has nothing to do with an actual phobia. Almost everyone will be really, really tense before they jump out of an airplane several thousand feet above the ground.

If someone has an actual phobia of spiders, and rubbing a bunch of spiders all over them got rid of the phobia, psychologists would simply do that and avoid unnecessary therapy.

Getting over an actual phobia requires basically what darth said. Gradual exposure and positive modeling. In his example, each time the person is going to bail on you before they actually reach the most aversive stimulus (handling a non-deadly snake), but eventually with relaxation training and repeated trials they'll most likely be able to do it, and become comfortable enough to the point where they don't become completely hysteric at the sight, or even thought, of a snake.

That doesn't mean you're going to become some spider nut by any means, though. I have no irrational phobia of tarantulas, and if I saw a tarantula crawling around I certainly wouldn't have any intention of picking it up and holding it.

And if I saw 100 spiders in my bed, I think any sane individual would flip s**t. Just because you don't have a phobia of spiders doesn't mean you'll be going "dohohoho oh you guys". They're potentially deadly and reacting cautiously to them is intelligent.

Not wanting to move to another country because there are black widow spiders there would be an example of a phobia destroying someone's quality of life. Freaking out when said spider is on your leg, in your bed, etc. is a completely rational thing to do.

So no, I don't "get it."  

[Enness Vakar]

themightyjello

You sure? I'd think that the shanking would wait about 40 seconds until I'd rolled in circles around the room shedding articles of clothing and shouting things like "******** shanking.

Actually yeah I forgot about that part. I'd either do that then shank, or shank then that.

Or possibly that while shanking.  

[Designated Hero]

themightyjello

Man. I couldn't post in ToF if I wanted to. I have no idea what's going on anymore. What was I even talking about in my last post? I don't know. I'd have to look it up.