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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:48 pm


Now that I think about it, the Dha might be what inspired some of the Elven swords of various movies and board games like The Lord of the Rings and Warhammer 40k. To see the real weapon gives me a better understanding of why they would choose that for a race focused on speed and grace.

I personally don't see why people have to focus so much on Japanese swords. I like Katanas too but that's only because I am a saber guy. I love slashing weapons. So clean and deep of a cut. Though, I'm not sure if it is that much harder than a chopping motion. I never practiced chopping unless it was to chop off heads and hack off limbs. Slashing feels easier to me. Might be my own personal likes and body. So I agree completely with quiet_way.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:18 am


Anyone in this thread like the karambit?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:29 pm


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Anyone in this thread like the karambit?

I do~ My old one broke and I've been looking for an appropriately priced replacement.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:04 pm


Indrah

Are you looking for fixed blade, for traditional karambit training and all that, or for a closing blade one? The Smith and Wesson folding karambit is supposed to be one of the better ones and you can get it for around 20$ online. If you want even cheaper, Tac Force makes some decent ones for 10$ that will last, they just need to be tightened every once in a while to keep the spring action. I don't know about any cheap fixed blade karambit, you can't get that many good cheap ones on amazon, but there are assorted websites where you can find some decent ones for around $20-30.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:07 am


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Indrah

Are you looking for fixed blade, for traditional karambit training and all that, or for a closing blade one? The Smith and Wesson folding karambit is supposed to be one of the better ones and you can get it for around 20$ online. If you want even cheaper, Tac Force makes some decent ones for 10$ that will last, they just need to be tightened every once in a while to keep the spring action. I don't know about any cheap fixed blade karambit, you can't get that many good cheap ones on amazon, but there are assorted websites where you can find some decent ones for around $20-30.

I'm looking for more of a folder, as I don't train traditionally with them all that often, and when I do I prefer a rubber trainer. I'm looking for something with an ergonomic, large grip like Cold Steel's Spartan, but without any serrations, and a durable high quality blade that isn't Stainless Steel. Though those don't come all that cheap.
What's your take on the Karambit?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:03 am


Indrah

Yeah, unfortunately I'm not sure where you might find a karambit like that. My take would be that the karambit is great for self defense now, where as in older days when everyone carried around swords it would have been better as a last means of defense. Its shape makes it great for picking, and it has enough slash power that if your not careful you can deal a lot more damage than intended. I would say that that's one of the bigger problems with the karambit in the modern world, if you do use it for self defense you have to be careful not to cause excessive damage unless you want to end up in jail. Overall I think it's more effective than a normal knife in terms of self defense, although everyone has their own opinion on that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:47 pm


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Indrah

Yeah, unfortunately I'm not sure where you might find a karambit like that. My take would be that the karambit is great for self defense now, where as in older days when everyone carried around swords it would have been better as a last means of defense. Its shape makes it great for picking, and it has enough slash power that if your not careful you can deal a lot more damage than intended. I would say that that's one of the bigger problems with the karambit in the modern world, if you do use it for self defense you have to be careful not to cause excessive damage unless you want to end up in jail. Overall I think it's more effective than a normal knife in terms of self defense, although everyone has their own opinion on that.

I always figured in those days it was more of an ambush weapon for out in the bush, considering it's origins. I believe they had a bigger weapon called the Kris too, and that the Karambit was often used alongside it to fend off smaller strikes and attack weaknesses in their defense. Or at least that's my understanding of it.
I'd have to agree with that, but it's not my favorite Self-Defense blade. I like me a good Tomahawk.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:23 pm


Indrah

The karambit was for ambushing to some degree, the knives are not very large and the ring allows them to be held upside down in your hand straight up your wrist, so the knife can be hidden from view behind your arm until the last second. Some women would wear karambits tied in their hair as a means of defense. Your also exactly right about how they were used as companions to the Kris. They were also used as a final defense on the battlefield if the Clurit was being used and was ever disarmed. A lot of times they would also put poison on the blade of the karambit so that only a small cut was needed to cause serious damage. Overall, the karambit has a really fascinating history. The tomahawk, thats an interesting choice. For throwing purposes or for slashing? Or either depending on the situation?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:36 pm


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Indrah

The karambit was for ambushing to some degree, the knives are not very large and the ring allows them to be held upside down in your hand straight up your wrist, so the knife can be hidden from view behind your arm until the last second. Some women would wear karambits tied in their hair as a means of defense. Your also exactly right about how they were used as companions to the Kris. They were also used as a final defense on the battlefield if the Clurit was being used and was ever disarmed. A lot of times they would also put poison on the blade of the karambit so that only a small cut was needed to cause serious damage. Overall, the karambit has a really fascinating history. The tomahawk, thats an interesting choice. For throwing purposes or for slashing? Or either depending on the situation?

Either depending on the situation. It can shop, slash, hook with the beard, and the backs often have a spike or smaller blade of sorts. I've been saving up for the Traumahawk from ZombieTools.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:11 pm


Alright, blade nuts. Got a curious question or two. Of late, my katana work has gotten a bit stale (mostly because the weather is prohibitively cold here for outside training!) Thus, I'm looking to start basic training with something new.

After exhaustive research of what is available locally, I've decided it must be one of two similar yet drastically different weapons. The Japanese nagamaki, a weapon said to be favored by Nobunaga himself, or the Chinese dadao, used by Chinese soldiers during the second Sino-Chinese War. Both have long hilts, but the blade structure is different leading to two very different underlying styles.

I'd like to hear opinions regarding each, especially from anyone with hands-on experience.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:26 pm


quiet_way
Alright, blade nuts. Got a curious question or two. Of late, my katana work has gotten a bit stale (mostly because the weather is prohibitively cold here for outside training!) Thus, I'm looking to start basic training with something new.

After exhaustive research of what is available locally, I've decided it must be one of two similar yet drastically different weapons. The Japanese nagamaki, a weapon said to be favored by Nobunaga himself, or the Chinese dadao, used by Chinese soldiers during the second Sino-Chinese War. Both have long hilts, but the blade structure is different leading to two very different underlying styles.

I'd like to hear opinions regarding each, especially from anyone with hands-on experience.
the Chinese dadao would be my recommendation. With the proper mentality and intent, your also training your empty hand technique too
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:29 am


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quiet_way
Alright, blade nuts. Got a curious question or two. Of late, my katana work has gotten a bit stale (mostly because the weather is prohibitively cold here for outside training!) Thus, I'm looking to start basic training with something new.

After exhaustive research of what is available locally, I've decided it must be one of two similar yet drastically different weapons. The Japanese nagamaki, a weapon said to be favored by Nobunaga himself, or the Chinese dadao, used by Chinese soldiers during the second Sino-Chinese War. Both have long hilts, but the blade structure is different leading to two very different underlying styles.

I'd like to hear opinions regarding each, especially from anyone with hands-on experience.
the Chinese dadao would be my recommendation. With the proper mentality and intent, your also training your empty hand technique too

Interesting. Is there a specific empty hand form you'd recommend in conjunction with the dadao training? I'm not sure it would complement any of the Chinese forms that I've studied.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:30 am


quiet_way
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quiet_way
Alright, blade nuts. Got a curious question or two. Of late, my katana work has gotten a bit stale (mostly because the weather is prohibitively cold here for outside training!) Thus, I'm looking to start basic training with something new.

After exhaustive research of what is available locally, I've decided it must be one of two similar yet drastically different weapons. The Japanese nagamaki, a weapon said to be favored by Nobunaga himself, or the Chinese dadao, used by Chinese soldiers during the second Sino-Chinese War. Both have long hilts, but the blade structure is different leading to two very different underlying styles.

I'd like to hear opinions regarding each, especially from anyone with hands-on experience.
the Chinese dadao would be my recommendation. With the proper mentality and intent, your also training your empty hand technique too

Interesting. Is there a specific empty hand form you'd recommend in conjunction with the dadao training? I'm not sure it would complement any of the Chinese forms that I've studied.
several lol. Bagua, hsing-i, taichi. Even qigong to an extent
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