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 Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:28 am
Random832 Omnileech I'd say that rape is one of the worst crimes one can commit. Rape is different than just a finger in the mouth because a finger lacks the symbolicsm that a p***s has. Saying that one crime should be adjudged worse than another due to "symbolism" at all is begging the question. Perhaps so, but honestly, saying that someone who sticks their finger in another person's mouth, when neither are typically covered up for the majority of day-to-day life in the United States, should be charged with CSC1? Symbolism aside, rape is far more violating than a finger in the mouth. Far more.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:50 am
Random832 Pandora Box The thing with rape is you have completely lost control where control would normally be. Whether you're sexually active or not, you choose when, how, and who you have sex with. In this way rape is not comparable to assault because normally you don't choose when and how someone beats you up. Actually, I do normally chose when and how I am beaten up. When: never, How: in no way. And some people do choose differently from that. Unless you've sealed yourself in a concrete cube, you didn't make that choice. Because somewhere on this planet, there is someone who can righteously kick your a**, and it's no actions of your own that are preventing this from happening.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:45 am
Random832 Pandora Box The thing with rape is you have completely lost control where control would normally be. Whether you're sexually active or not, you choose when, how, and who you have sex with. In this way rape is not comparable to assault because normally you don't choose when and how someone beats you up. Actually, I do normally chose when and how I am beaten up. When: never, How: in no way. And some people do choose differently from that. Correction. When - not YET, hopefully never. How - unknown as of YET, preferably in no way. Fact is, there's always somebody stronger, and odds are you'd encounter one of them at some point unless you go to rather extreme levels of solitude.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:48 am
Cougar Draven Random832 Omnileech I'd say that rape is one of the worst crimes one can commit. Rape is different than just a finger in the mouth because a finger lacks the symbolicsm that a p***s has. Saying that one crime should be adjudged worse than another due to "symbolism" at all is begging the question. Perhaps so, but honestly, saying that someone who sticks their finger in another person's mouth, when neither are typically covered up for the majority of day-to-day life in the United States, should be charged with CSC1? Symbolism aside, rape is far more violating than a finger in the mouth. Far more. Fraid I'm gonna have to agree, Cougar. I mean, one is harmless and not particularly painful in a physical or mental sense. It also doesn't carry the risk of pregnancy. Then we go to the other - oh bugger - mentally and physically damaging, a violation of something most people consider the most inviolable part of themselves, AND risk of pregnancy! Oh joy!
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:36 pm
Rape is a huge invasion of privacy. And its not anything like putting your finger in a girl's mouth. The fact is, your finger doesn't leave anything within the girl. By raping her, you are forcefully causing a substance to enter her body. That's more like coming up to someone on the street and giving them a rondom injection of your blood which may, or may not, contain a horrible disease. Injecting people randomly is not acceptable, and so neither is rape.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:28 am
Indeed though I do believe rape is no longer considered the horribly violating crime as it used to be.
I cannot remember the case I believe it was Coker v. (insert state here)
In the end they found the crime of rape to be exempted from capital punishment. So I suppose the view of many have dropped to, rape isn''t as bad as we say it is since it does not deserve capital punishment.
That amnd when you think about it, rape has often been in history as a method of punishment and other things.
*shrugs*
Oops I appear to be going off topic. Sorry
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:13 pm
Master_SL Indeed though I do believe rape is no longer considered the horribly violating crime as it used to be. I cannot remember the case I believe it was Coker v. (insert state here) In the end they found the crime of rape to be exempted from capital punishment. So I suppose the view of many have dropped to, rape isn''t as bad as we say it is since it does not deserve capital punishment. That amnd when you think about it, rape has often been in history as a method of punishment and other things. *shrugs* Oops I appear to be going off topic. Sorry Coker v Georgia. Adjudicated in 1977. And bullshit it isn't deserving of capital punishment. Imagine your sister getting raped. If you don't have a sister, imagine your girlfriend/wife or closest female friend. Would you allow the capture and trial of the rapist to fall to the law? I know I wouldn't. As far as I am aware, a majority of rape cases do not end in conviction. Correct me if I'm wrong. And it goes the same for male friends. If any of my friends get raped, I will likely be borrowing my uncle's Glock.
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:09 am
Cougar Draven Master_SL Indeed though I do believe rape is no longer considered the horribly violating crime as it used to be. I cannot remember the case I believe it was Coker v. (insert state here) In the end they found the crime of rape to be exempted from capital punishment. So I suppose the view of many have dropped to, rape isn''t as bad as we say it is since it does not deserve capital punishment. That amnd when you think about it, rape has often been in history as a method of punishment and other things. *shrugs* Oops I appear to be going off topic. Sorry Coker v Georgia. Adjudicated in 1977. And bullshit it isn't deserving of capital punishment. Imagine your sister getting raped. If you don't have a sister, imagine your girlfriend/wife or closest female friend. Would you allow the capture and trial of the rapist to fall to the law? I know I wouldn't. As far as I am aware, a majority of rape cases do not end in conviction. Correct me if I'm wrong. And it goes the same for male friends. If any of my friends get raped, I will likely be borrowing my uncle's Glock. I know it's bullshit. The reason for the argument was that the mental and physical damage was not long lasting. BULL s**t! My friend cries if she even sees a hint of a phallus. WWhens he was raped, she was damaged so badly they may have to remove her uterus. My other friend has only a 10% chance of ever concieving a child and even then she has a high chance of losing the child. The only way they will use capital punishment on rapists if if they kill their victims and even then they may not go to jail. It is devaluing the sanctity of somebody's body only so a dipshit lawyer can earn his money and get his client in jail and not in hell. Justice isn't blind, but the law is, and it lets the devil and angels guide its hand. *nods* I wish thatw as good enough for a sig.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:46 am
Master_SL Cougar Draven Master_SL Indeed though I do believe rape is no longer considered the horribly violating crime as it used to be. I cannot remember the case I believe it was Coker v. (insert state here) In the end they found the crime of rape to be exempted from capital punishment. So I suppose the view of many have dropped to, rape isn''t as bad as we say it is since it does not deserve capital punishment. That amnd when you think about it, rape has often been in history as a method of punishment and other things. *shrugs* Oops I appear to be going off topic. Sorry Coker v Georgia. Adjudicated in 1977. And bullshit it isn't deserving of capital punishment. Imagine your sister getting raped. If you don't have a sister, imagine your girlfriend/wife or closest female friend. Would you allow the capture and trial of the rapist to fall to the law? I know I wouldn't. As far as I am aware, a majority of rape cases do not end in conviction. Correct me if I'm wrong. And it goes the same for male friends. If any of my friends get raped, I will likely be borrowing my uncle's Glock. I know it's bullshit. The reason for the argument was that the mental and physical damage was not long lasting. BULL s**t! My friend cries if she even sees a hint of a phallus. WWhens he was raped, she was damaged so badly they may have to remove her uterus. My other friend has only a 10% chance of ever concieving a child and even then she has a high chance of losing the child. The only way they will use capital punishment on rapists if if they kill their victims and even then they may not go to jail. It is devaluing the sanctity of somebody's body only so a dipshit lawyer can earn his money and get his client in jail and not in hell. Justice isn't blind, but the law is, and it lets the devil and angels guide its hand. *nods* I wish thatw as good enough for a sig. Those are among the many reasons why I need to be elected dictator. Cornerstones for my campaign include mandatory execution for rapists and murderers.
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:52 am
Cougar Draven As far as I am aware, a majority of rape cases do not end in conviction. Correct me if I'm wrong. How do we know a majority of cases are legitimate? Master_SL he only way they will use capital punishment on rapists if if they kill their victims and even then they may not go to jail. So you think that rape should be a crime that has the death penalty? In April of 2006, three Duke LaCrosse players were falsely accused of rape. Do you think they should be dead?
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:50 pm
Random832 Cougar Draven As far as I am aware, a majority of rape cases do not end in conviction. Correct me if I'm wrong. How do we know a majority of cases are legitimate? My point exactly. That is why most don't end in conviction. Random832 Master_SL he only way they will use capital punishment on rapists if if they kill their victims and even then they may not go to jail. So you think that rape should be a crime that has the death penalty? Yes. Random832 In April of 2006, three Duke LaCrosse players were falsely accused of rape. Do you think they should be dead? If they were convicted in good faith, then yes, I do.
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:25 am
Random832 Cougar Draven As far as I am aware, a majority of rape cases do not end in conviction. Correct me if I'm wrong. How do we know a majority of cases are legitimate? Master_SL he only way they will use capital punishment on rapists if if they kill their victims and even then they may not go to jail. So you think that rape should be a crime that has the death penalty? In April of 2006, three Duke LaCrosse players were falsely accused of rape. Do you think they should be dead? If it was proven they had raped the woman then yes, I believe they should. Noone truly knows what happened except them, the girl and God (whatever or whoever he may be. Maybe even amidget, midget's are cool) Oh and cougar I will support your capmpaign as dictator. XD
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:56 pm
Master_SL Random832 Cougar Draven As far as I am aware, a majority of rape cases do not end in conviction. Correct me if I'm wrong. How do we know a majority of cases are legitimate? Master_SL he only way they will use capital punishment on rapists if if they kill their victims and even then they may not go to jail. So you think that rape should be a crime that has the death penalty? In April of 2006, three Duke LaCrosse players were falsely accused of rape. Do you think they should be dead? If it was proven they had raped the woman then yes, I believe they should. Noone truly knows what happened except them, the girl and God (whatever or whoever he may be. Maybe even amidget, midget's are cool) Oh and cougar I will support your capmpaign as dictator. XD Sweet. It's sad that it would have to come to that.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:44 am
Cougar Draven Master_SL Indeed though I do believe rape is no longer considered the horribly violating crime as it used to be. I cannot remember the case I believe it was Coker v. (insert state here) In the end they found the crime of rape to be exempted from capital punishment. So I suppose the view of many have dropped to, rape isn''t as bad as we say it is since it does not deserve capital punishment. That amnd when you think about it, rape has often been in history as a method of punishment and other things. *shrugs* Oops I appear to be going off topic. Sorry Coker v Georgia. Adjudicated in 1977. And bullshit it isn't deserving of capital punishment. Imagine your sister getting raped. If you don't have a sister, imagine your girlfriend/wife or closest female friend. Would you allow the capture and trial of the rapist to fall to the law? I know I wouldn't. As far as I am aware, a majority of rape cases do not end in conviction. Correct me if I'm wrong. And it goes the same for male friends. If any of my friends get raped, I will likely be borrowing my uncle's Glock. I'm against capital punishment in general, and a big believer in second chances. Especially for crimes the victim can recover from. Not to say that some things from the rape won't stay with you, but it's easier to get over than, say, death.
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:59 pm
TheSilverNoble Cougar Draven Master_SL Indeed though I do believe rape is no longer considered the horribly violating crime as it used to be. I cannot remember the case I believe it was Coker v. (insert state here) In the end they found the crime of rape to be exempted from capital punishment. So I suppose the view of many have dropped to, rape isn''t as bad as we say it is since it does not deserve capital punishment. That amnd when you think about it, rape has often been in history as a method of punishment and other things. *shrugs* Oops I appear to be going off topic. Sorry Coker v Georgia. Adjudicated in 1977. And bullshit it isn't deserving of capital punishment. Imagine your sister getting raped. If you don't have a sister, imagine your girlfriend/wife or closest female friend. Would you allow the capture and trial of the rapist to fall to the law? I know I wouldn't. As far as I am aware, a majority of rape cases do not end in conviction. Correct me if I'm wrong. And it goes the same for male friends. If any of my friends get raped, I will likely be borrowing my uncle's Glock. I'm against capital punishment in general, and a big believer in second chances. Especially for crimes the victim can recover from. Not to say that some things from the rape won't stay with you, but it's easier to get over than, say, death. All right, suppose *BEGIN ASSUMPTION* I concede to a second chance, and the guy does his time, gets out of prison, and rapes someone else? *END ASSUMPTION* That scenario would leave a lot of people in the legal system with egg on their face. I'm aware of the fallacious reasoning behind that, but it's just not safe enough to assume that the probability of a convicted rapist being fully rehabilitated is in society's favor.
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