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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:50 pm


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The Witches Creed
by Doreen Valiente

Hear now the words of the witches,
The secrets we hid in the night,
When dark was our destiny’s pathway,
That now we bring forth into light.

Mysterious water and fire,
The earth and the wide-ranging air,
By hidden quintessence we know them,
And will and keep silent and dare.

The birth and rebirth of all nature,
The passing of winter and spring,
We share with the life universal,
Rejoice in the magical ring.

Four times in the year the Great Sabbat
Returns, and witches are seen
At Lammas, and Candlemas dancing,
On May Eve and old Hallowe’en.

When day-time and night-time are equal,
When the sun is at greatest and least,
The four Lesser Sabbats are summoned,
Again witches gather in feast.

Thirteen silver moons in a year are,
Thirteen is the coven's array.
Thirteen times as Esbat make merry,
For each golden year and a day.

The power was passed down the ages,
Each time between woman and man,
Each century unto the other,
Ere time and the ages began.

When drawn is the magical circle,
By sword or athame or power,
Its compass between the two worlds lie,
In Land of the Shades for that hour.

This world has no right then to know it,
And world beyond will tell naught,
The oldest of Gods are invoked there,
The Great Work of magic is wrought.

For two are the mystical pillars,
That stand to at the gate of the shrine,
And two are the powers of nature,
The forms and the forces divine.

The dark and the light in succession,
The opposites each unto each,
Shown forth as a God and a Goddess,
Of this did our ancestors teach.

By night he’s the wild wind’s rider,
The Horn’d One, the Lord of the shades,
By day he’s the King of the Woodlands,
The dweller in green forest glades.

She is youthful or old as she pleases,
She sails the torn clouds in her barque,
The bright silver lady of midnight,
The crone who weaves spells in the dark.

The master and mistress of magic,
They dwell in the deeps of the mind,
Immortal and ever-renewing,
With power to free or to bind.

So drink the good wine to the Old Gods,
And dance and make love in their praise,
Til Elphame's fair land shall receive us,
In peace at the end of our days.

An Do What You Will be the challenge,
So be it in Love that harms none,
For this is the only commandment,
By Magick of old, be it done.


So, tell me...how do you feel about the above? The first one is a shorter version, and the second part is the full version.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:57 am


I have the whole Witches Creed poem written in my Grimoire ^^ it's by far one of my favourites. Since I don't follow/like the Wiccan Rede, I put that in its place, as I felt it held more relevance to my path, even more so since it speaks of Elphame. Not many modern Witches include it in their beliefs. I think the only reason it's in there is because Doreen was initiated into a Trad Witch coven after leaving Wicca.
But yeah, lovely poem. ^^


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The Witches Creed
by Doreen Valiente

Hear now the words of the witches,
The secrets we hid in the night,
When dark was our destiny’s pathway,
That now we bring forth into light.

Mysterious water and fire,
The earth and the wide-ranging air,
By hidden quintessence we know them,
And will and keep silent and dare.

The birth and rebirth of all nature,
The passing of winter and spring,
We share with the life universal,
Rejoice in the magical ring.

Four times in the year the Great Sabbat
Returns, and witches are seen
At Lammas, and Candlemas dancing,
On May Eve and old Hallowe’en.

When day-time and night-time are equal,
When the sun is at greatest and least,
The four Lesser Sabbats are summoned,
Again witches gather in feast.

Thirteen silver moons in a year are,
Thirteen is the coven's array.
Thirteen times as Esbat make merry,
For each golden year and a day.

The power was passed down the ages,
Each time between woman and man,
Each century unto the other,
Ere time and the ages began.

When drawn is the magical circle,
By sword or athame or power,
Its compass between the two worlds lie,
In Land of the Shades for that hour.

This world has no right then to know it,
And world beyond will tell naught,
The oldest of Gods are invoked there,
The Great Work of magic is wrought.

For two are the mystical pillars,
That stand to at the gate of the shrine,
And two are the powers of nature,
The forms and the forces divine.

The dark and the light in succession,
The opposites each unto each,
Shown forth as a God and a Goddess,
Of this did our ancestors teach.

By night he’s the wild wind’s rider,
The Horn’d One, the Lord of the shades,
By day he’s the King of the Woodlands,
The dweller in green forest glades.

She is youthful or old as she pleases,
She sails the torn clouds in her barque,
The bright silver lady of midnight,
The crone who weaves spells in the dark.

The master and mistress of magic,
They dwell in the deeps of the mind,
Immortal and ever-renewing,
With power to free or to bind.

So drink the good wine to the Old Gods,
And dance and make love in their praise,
Til Elphame's fair land shall receive us,
In peace at the end of our days.

An Do What You Will be the challenge,
So be it in Love that harms none,
For this is the only commandment,
By Magick of old, be it done.

Miss Lune Soleil

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:54 pm


Phoenixfire Lune Soleil
I have the whole Witches Creed poem written in my Grimoire ^^ it's by far one of my favourites. Since I don't follow/like the Wiccan Rede, I put that in its place, as I felt it held more relevance to my path, even more so since it speaks of Elphame. Not many modern Witches include it in their beliefs. I think the only reason it's in there is because Doreen was initiated into a Trad Witch coven after leaving Wicca.
But yeah, lovely poem. ^^


Thank you for posting the full version. Since you know so much more about it than I, would you mind making a lesson on it? We can make it into a sticky in the main forum with the Wiccan Rede so that information on both is readily available for everyone.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:10 am


Lol I wondered why I couldn't find this thread again! xd Had to go into my History and everything razz

Yeah sure ^^ I don't know that much, just bits here and there. I'll have to do some more research on it, but I'll post up any new info I find in this thread. smile

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:00 am


Phoenixfire Lune Soleil
Lol I wondered why I couldn't find this thread again! xd Had to go into my History and everything razz

Yeah sure ^^ I don't know that much, just bits here and there. I'll have to do some more research on it, but I'll post up any new info I find in this thread. smile


Wonderful. Yay! Tanku!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:30 pm


I like both the wiccan rede and the poem mentioned here

Zavriel


Willo-the-Worm
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:27 pm


I agree about preferring this to the Wiccan Rede. I think that the Rede is a little too much like a solemn rule than a glorious celebration, as I would like it. The Witch's Creed seems much more celebratory and free-spirited than the Rede.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:44 pm


Willo-the-Worm
I agree about preferring this to the Wiccan Rede. I think that the Rede is a little too much like a solemn rule than a glorious celebration, as I would like it. The Witch's Creed seems much more celebratory and free-spirited than the Rede.


I am leaning more towards this than the Rede....have been for a while....

Freya232006


seagoddess8

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:14 am


The poem is really good.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:09 am


i thought it was wonderful

Masked-Moon


vampires_wiccan_lover_13

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:42 am


Wowo I have never seen the full version...thank you
I lean more towards this then Rede...Idk why but it feels more comfortable.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:55 pm


It's alright. The full version has more detail and sounds really nice.

DemonicAngel420


Starlight Flower

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:01 am


Beautiful! heart
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:45 am


I have to say, this is a rather beautiful work, so much more eye pleasing than the rede. The only problem I have with either, is the inclination to do NO harm. I find this rather hard to do, for everything can cause harm, if not directly. Furthermore, I find it easier to think that if one is to do such a harmful spell, work, or cause physical injury, one must face the consequences. I for one, will not cause physical harm, however, if harm is done to me, I feel I should have at least a choice to cause lesser or equal pain unto them. I do not have an example, for I don't go around causing people pain, I never have, but I feel, some situations, it would be acceptable.

Gambling Setzer


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:16 pm


The Witches' Creed is one of my favourites too. It reads like a catchy little song in my head.
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