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 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:24 am
(((First post, HI EVERYONE!!)))
I heard them, I really, really did >_<;
Okay, now I bet you're thinking the same thing most of my friends on aim were when I realized, finally, what the metaphor analogy thing meant. You're thinking I'm crazy.
"What are you trying to say, I'm crazy?
When I went to your schools, I went to your churches,
I went to your institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy.
They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead
I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized
They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself
It doesn't matter I'll probably get hit by a car anyway.
Okay, now to the point, and beginning of this thread.
"If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" That quote practically defines all of reality. For all this time I was taking the skeptic viewpoint and disbelieving anyone claiming to hear the trees, I never went to listen for myself because of disbelief. Sam made me that way, no longer able to trust myself when I thought I heard the trees myself.
If the tree falls and those around to hear it aren't credible does it make a sound? No. According to most skeptic opinions, no. There's nothing saying the tree even fell.
If a tree falls and those around to hear it are credible, does it make a sound? Maybe. According to skeptic opinon, those who are knowledgable in the sound of tree falling would know if a tree fell, but no ordinary person could say so. The person could also be lying.
If a tree fell in the forest and you yourself heard it, did it make a sound? Only you know, few people other than your closest friends will believe you.
If a tree fell in the forst and no one was around to hear it, does it make a sound? Evidence and signs of previous tree fallings point to "yes".
I'm pretty sure every person in the occult has had the problem of trying to prove that the tree fell, well stop. The fact is the tree fell and you were the only one to hear it, rejoice in the fact you were lucky enough to hear it. I'm done proving anything to anyone, what does my reality matter to anyone but myself unless I'm interacting with someone else's reality directly?
It took me four months or so to understand the quote I made in my first lobo's lesson thing. "Reason is behind drive, which is behind power, and power is in front of your will, and your will is behind logic, and reason is in front of (being driven by) logic. " The thing that confused me most was the thought nagging in the back of my head saying they're not related, because they're not really, they're all separate things... The other day I realized what it meant, I was luckily alone when I exclaimed "That's it! They're all of the same essence!". sweatdrop (Maybe I spend too much time in personal thought?)
When I first wrote that quote down on paper I was thinking of the tree falling quote and realized it's not nearly as simple as it sounds, it is about reality, I thought I understood it then, but I didn't. So yesterday I was talking to my nice friend Tormented Panda on AIM and I was talking about my lessons and confusing quote I came up with. Then it hit me, Yagi was right by questioning my sanity when I was speaking in angelic and she said it was equivalent to an otakukin, she didn't hear the trees. stressed From that point on, until last night I thought I was completely insane, I was entirely convinced I was insane, completely thouroughly insane.
Now I'm not going to sit in the feedle position sucking my thumb in a dark corner, I'm going to sit on the stump from the last tree falling and see if I can listen for another one.
I think my tendency to take metaphors so literal and think them over so much is why people say the songs I write aren't bad. xd
Oh, and skip that going in the forest... that's too far away. For now I'm going to play Donkey Kong Country on the SNES, 'til I'm bored, then I might think about doing it while enjoying a lipton tea bottle. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:21 pm
LoBo_23 (((First post, HI EVERYONE!!))) I heard them, I really, really did >_<; Okay, now I bet you're thinking the same thing most of my friends on aim were when I realized, finally, what the metaphor analogy thing meant. You're thinking I'm crazy.
"What are you trying to say, I'm crazy?
When I went to your schools, I went to your churches,
I went to your institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy.
They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead
I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized
They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself
It doesn't matter I'll probably get hit by a car anyway.
Okay, now to the point, and beginning of this thread.
"If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" That quote practically defines all of reality. For all this time I was taking the skeptic viewpoint and disbelieving anyone claiming to hear the trees, I never went to listen for myself because of disbelief. Sam made me that way, no longer able to trust myself when I thought I heard the trees myself.
If the tree falls and those around to hear it aren't credible does it make a sound? No. According to most skeptic opinions, no. There's nothing saying the tree even fell.
If a tree falls and those around to hear it are credible, does it make a sound? Maybe. According to skeptic opinon, those who are knowledgable in the sound of tree falling would know if a tree fell, but no ordinary person could say so. The person could also be lying.
If a tree fell in the forest and you yourself heard it, did it make a sound? Only you know, few people other than your closest friends will believe you.
If a tree fell in the forst and no one was around to hear it, does it make a sound? Evidence and signs of previous tree fallings point to "yes".
I'm pretty sure every person in the occult has had the problem of trying to prove that the tree fell, well stop. The fact is the tree fell and you were the only one to hear it, rejoice in the fact you were lucky enough to hear it. I'm done proving anything to anyone, what does my reality matter to anyone but myself unless I'm interacting with someone else's reality directly?
It took me four months or so to understand the quote I made in my first lobo's lesson thing. "Reason is behind drive, which is behind power, and power is in front of your will, and your will is behind logic, and reason is in front of (being driven by) logic. " The thing that confused me most was the thought nagging in the back of my head saying they're not related, because they're not really, they're all separate things... The other day I realized what it meant, I was luckily alone when I exclaimed "That's it! They're all of the same essence!". sweatdrop (Maybe I spend too much time in personal thought?)
When I first wrote that quote down on paper I was thinking of the tree falling quote and realized it's not nearly as simple as it sounds, it is about reality, I thought I understood it then, but I didn't. So yesterday I was talking to my nice friend Tormented Panda on AIM and I was talking about my lessons and confusing quote I came up with. Then it hit me, Yagi was right by questioning my sanity when I was speaking in angelic and she said it was equivalent to an otakukin, she didn't hear the trees. stressed From that point on, until last night I thought I was completely insane, I was entirely convinced I was insane, completely thouroughly insane.
Now I'm not going to sit in the feedle position sucking my thumb in a dark corner, I'm going to sit on the stump from the last tree falling and see if I can listen for another one.
I think my tendency to take metaphors so literal and think them over so much is why people say the songs I write aren't bad. xd
Oh, and skip that going in the forest... that's too far away. For now I'm going to play Donkey Kong Country on the SNES, 'til I'm bored, then I might think about doing it while enjoying a lipton tea bottle. 3nodding well done it usually takes people a lot longer to realize that reality is relative and subjective. to one one person what they know is the utter truth to anothere there reality says differently. well done.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:39 pm
Well... Reality in itself is not subjective, it's perceiving it that is subjective.
The tree falls whether or not someone is there, does it not? surprised
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:37 pm
I really like that. It makes me feel better.
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:39 pm
this very instant a thousand births have occured and and a thousand deaths have occured a million stars have flickerd into life and fizzled out but do we know this for sure? we werent there, the main lesson here is "there are worlds within worlds and realities within realities."
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:00 pm
WitchyBoy this very instant a thousand births have occured and and a thousand deaths have occured a million stars have flickerd into life and fizzled out but do we know this for sure? we werent there, the main lesson here is "there are worlds within worlds and realities within realities." True, millions of light years away, a star is moving, but no one can see it, no one can hear it, that does not mean it is not moving. As a race humanity is extremely vain, we like to think that we are the only existence, but when you class the tree falling, why does someone need to hear it?
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:52 pm
Most of you people here at Lightworkers seem to like the Bad-Guys in DK who are sadistic blood-thirsty lizard tyrants in Donkey Kong...
so...
lemme rephrase one of the above statements.
"If a tree falls in the forest and there is only one person there to hear it, but the tree falls on that person, killing him. Does that person dying make a sound?"
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:28 am
LoBo_23 "If a tree falls in the forest and there is only one person there to hear it, but the tree falls on that person, killing him. Does that person dying make a sound?" 1.) Who cares? He's dead. 2.) I'll leave that to the forensic team. 3.) I've beat my brains over this stuff enough.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:54 pm
reality is funny that way, it is personalized for each person who experiences it.
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