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 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:11 pm
I have a bone to pick with society. What is up with all of these elitist "goth," "prep," and "emo" groups? Why do we have to label ouselves and everyone else? It's downright idiotic!
People want to express their individuality by being different, by being "noncomformist," but they constantly dress, act, speak, act, and think in the form of these labels. All of these "punk" kids go around saying things like, "You laugh because I'm different; I laugh because you're all the same." That's bull. How do they get off conforming to the "punk" label and calling everyone else conformists?!? It's the same with any group/clique/whatever. They all go around acting like little clones of each other, judging everyone else, and thinking they're better than the whole world.
Alright, my rant is over. Thank you for listening.
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:49 pm
Oh my God! That's exactly what I think! I was just never able to express it so well! Thank you! 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:12 pm
Raiden Striker Oh my God! That's exactly what I think! I was just never able to express it so well! Thank you! 3nodding Why, thank you! biggrin
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:09 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:45 pm
What kills me is that many of the "non-confomist" types get offended when you label them, and yet they're far more likely to label themselves and other people around them. Seriously, how often do you hear people using the words "prep," "jock," or "cheerleader" as an insult? I hear it a lot. A lot more than I hear people using "goth" or "emo" as an insult.
I mean really, how many subcategories of "alternative" lifestyle does there need to be? I swear, there's a new category of people or music every other week.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:50 pm
This has been something I've spoken heatedly about for ages, and I'm glad you brought it up in the guild. It just bothers me so much that anyone does anything and calls themselves "different" for doing it. Honestly, if you're doing something to try to be different, then you're really just the same as the person who copies everyone else. All it takes is wanting any kind of recognition for how "different" you are to be a sheep of the worst possible kind.
I used to be endlessly frustrated with the goth/punk wannabes, but now my biggest peeve is all the people trying to sound so apathetic. If you really are apathetic, fine, go ahead and be apathetic. However, flaunting apatheticism (not a word, but it fits XD) is so contradictory that it's laughable. "I don't care about this, this, or this, but I do care what you think of me when I say I don't care about this, this, or this." rolleyes I seriously believe that faking apatheticism is the new self-injury; everybody's doing it, but only 5% of them know why.
These stupid fake apathetic people are the kind who will feign indifference to any situation you can give them. You could ask them how they would feel if someone stuck a puppy in a blender, and they'd simply shrug and say they wouldn't really care. If they were really apathetic, they also wouldn't care if I stuck them in a blender, but who wants to bet the second they came within sight of the blender they'd freak out or at least flinch?
Fake apathetic people also remind me of those annoying fence-sitters in ED who say, "Whatever floats your boat" to any sick sexual or ethical scenario they're told.
"You want to have sex with your brother? Whatever floats your boat."
"You want to have sex with a lesbian monkey with AIDS? Whatever floats your boat."
"You want to murder children and use their bones as drumsticks? Whatever floats your boat."
These people need a good smack up the side of their heads. Yes, in some cases, people should be able to do whatever they please, but this "Whatever floats your boat" crap just sounds like a desperate attempt to sound open-minded, which in fact just makes the typist sound like a goddamn psychopath. If "Whatever floats you boat" was a valid argument, rapists would go free because it obviously floated their boat to rape someone, didn't it? Anyone could commit any crime and plead the "Whatever floats your boat" argument in court and get off. I have never hated a saying more than I have hated that one, and my hatred for the saying is only second to my hatred for those who won't stop saying it. You know, I think I'm going to float my boat right now by amputating their fingers so they can no longer type it.
Please, everyone, forgive me for that long, nearly incoherent post. I've apparently lost touch with my literate half in my sleepiness. I especially hope Starlit won't mind that I rambled my way into off-topicness (also not a word, but once again it fits). sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:54 pm
Holy ******** HELL! eek
-saved the page for posterity!!- heart
I read the Scripture of Anti-Fangirl... I should print it on a card and recite some of this stuff to people!! stressed
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:45 pm
Kir: I love your ranting off-topicness. And your fitting non-words!
It's not really off-topic that much anyway. Those boat-floating people ARE the poseurs I was talking about. Stupid boats.
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:43 pm
People label me, but its been years since Ive labeled myself.. I never managed to do it anywho. xd
So for now Im mirrR, me, the funny girl who is liked by most people.
I know its the thing most of these kiddies say, but I hate hate hate, when people label me. They dont know me, and it shouldnt even be important. stressed Yes, I probably do dress like some would call emo or indie or whatever, but s**t, thats the way I want to dress, and I cant change that just to please those people who hate kiddies who gets labeled. Thats just silly.
These folks sometimes piss me off, 'cause if they do see a person who dresses a bit off the "normal" thingy, they immediately think this person labels oneself and by that becomes the labeler. neutral
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:29 pm
Nolandon What kills me is that many of the "non-confomist" types get offended when you label them, and yet they're far more likely to label themselves and other people around them. Seriously, how often do you hear people using the words "prep," "jock," or "cheerleader" as an insult? I hear it a lot. A lot more than I hear people using "goth" or "emo" as an insult. I somehow missed this post last time I came here. >_< You've really hit the nail on the head. We have these people who one second bite someone's head off for calling them a "goth" because they're against labels, and the next second they're calling people "preps". It's as if every word out of their mouths is based off of something they heard in a movie or briefly read in a magazine. They think it sounds good and makes them appear intelligent, but they have no bloody clue of what the meaning behind it is. All this "I hate labels" junk is really, "I hate people labeling me". Just like "You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same" is really, "You laugh at me because I'm a big ******** fake, I laugh at you because I want to pretend you're not right." Wow... I just used a whole crap-load of quotation marks in there. sweatdrop Quote: I mean really, how many subcategories of "alternative" lifestyle does there need to be? I swear, there's a new category of people or music every other week. Sad but true, which is why we have these annoying people who hop from category to category, each time claiming to be the epitome of it.
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:31 pm
StarlitJasmyn Kir: I love your ranting off-topicness. And your fitting non-words! I'm flattered, really I am, but I ought to invest in a dictionary one of these days. xd Quote: It's not really off-topic that much anyway. Those boat-floating people ARE the poseurs I was talking about. Stupid boats. I say we drill holes in their hulls. Then we'll see who's floating.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:36 pm
Agreed about the hull-hole-drilling.
I have to write a satyrical essay for english, based on Swift's A Modest Proposal format, and I think I'm going to do mine on labeling. My solution: If people are going to get labeled by themselves and others anyway, I say we just label 'em from birth. As soon as the kid pops out, slap a label on it's a** and send it squalling into the "punk" nursery. Or whatever. That way, everyone in their labeling nature will be happy.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:38 am
You're reading "A Modest Proposal" too, Starlit? Great piece of work, that. As disgusting as it is (in some minds) it's a beautiful piece of satire. A good laugh. Hehehe...you should have seen some of the squirms in the class when we got to the part about using babies in fricasee (sp?). Hehe.
But as for the original topic, yes. I can see what you all mean, and agree wholeheartedly. However, I'd like to talk about me for a while if y'all don't mind.
I don't dress 'normal', really. (Of course, what is normal than an impossible idea that really can't exist due to the fact that all of us are unique and different, and therefore there cannot be enough similiarties between a large enough group to be considered 'the norm'?) I wear baggy clothes, strange tee-shirts, and have a bad habit of laughing when I'm not supposed to. (My History Teacher hates that.) Does that make me a 'freak'? Does that make me 'bad'? Does that make me deserving of being shunned? Just because I don't dress in a manner that society say is 'normal' (and you all know my opinion on what normal is) and act in a way that most consider 'proper', does that make me any less human? No. Forgive me if I'm starting to sound like the 'individualists' that this post is criticizing, but hear me out. I'm not looking to be labelled. I'm not looking for attention. I'm looking to be comfortable in my own skin (which I haven't done yet) and to live life on my terms. I don't label, so don't label me. Arrr.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:38 am
sweetdarkling Forgive me if I'm starting to sound like the 'individualists' that this post is criticizing, but hear me out. I'm not looking to be labelled. I'm not looking for attention. I'm looking to be comfortable in my own skin (which I haven't done yet) and to live life on my terms. I don't label, so don't label me. Arrr. Me agrees with you.. :]
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:27 am
I feel dirty... I haven't stabbed a few gay guy friends in the face for making Viggo into their mansex God.
-bathes in anti-fangirl goodness- Ahhhh......
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