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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:42 pm


On current.com (which is a great news site btw, I suggest signing up, my username is PoisonTheMonkey, add me smile ) there are some very hateful homophobic people. Here follows my conversations through pms with two of them, posted for your amusement. These pms follow after comments on news items. My writing is in italics, the writing of nessie00 is in caps (as it was originally) and the writing of soleil10 is in bold.

He pmed me after this post: http://current.com/items/89466727_no_on_prop_h8


THERE ARE NO RIGHTS IN THE CONSTITUTION FOR HOMOS AND HENCE IT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY. VOTE YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're an idiot, you know that right? Don't even have the bravery to say it where others can see it. And here you tell me not to be hateful and nasty. I don't see anywhere special rights for whites, men, Jews, BDSM couples or any number of demographics, yet they are HUMANS and all citizens under the Constitution are to be treated as equals. Or, if you disagree with the Constitution, perhaps you should go live in a country where homosexuality is illegal, like one in the Middle East.

I AM IN THE MAJORITY. DOES THAT SCARE YOU LITTLE MONKEY?


Yes, it does. Just as it would have scared people in Nazi Germany that nutcases like you were in the majority. I find it very amusing that you seem incapable of debating my arguments and can only yell and type like an idiot. Good day. smile


YOU MUST BE ONE OF THE MOST UNHAPPY PEOPLE I HAVE EVER CHATTED WITH. YOU ARE SO FULL OF BIGOTISM TOWARDS ANY OPINION OTHER THAN YOURS. YOU HAVE ALOT OF GROWING TO DO MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY. YOUR NAME SAYS IT ALL. SORRY I USED THE WORD PIG, THERE IS A MONKEY PIG ON THIS SIGHT.

Lol. You're a joke, sweetie. I'm full of bigotism? I'm not the one who hates homosexual people here and is refusing to let them live their lives in peace. I'm not the one who insults others, like you, just because they disagree. If you have a reason you're against same-sex marriage, which you don't, then back say why and back it up. But you're just a hateful, angry person. And good for laughs.

And now the longer and more deceptively idiotic one, soleil. It only really gets funny towards the end, when she declares that she would vote to make it illegal to be a single parent. Notice how long she tried to weasel out of answering and kept trying to mistate the question--she kept trying to make it seem like two crazy things, like I was asking if she would make it legal for single parents to conceive using only one person and if she would make it legal for single parents to consider themselves married?? I've deleted most of soleil10's pms (inbox got full) but here are what I have. This is the person who has said in comments that sex education is training sluts and that she had harassed and threatened a store over the phone to take a same-sex wedding card off the shelves. She's ******** nuts. Lost the thread it was a response of, but I initiated the conversation with this pm:

Okay. Here's my problem with this complaint. Sometimes the will of the people is simply unconstitutional, immoral, and ridiculous. See, yes, we may be a democracy but we've also got legally guaranteed freedoms, rights, and are legally to be treated as equals. So what happens when society's views contradict with what we are legally guaranteed under the Bill of Rights? Individual freedom and rights that don't affect others should ALWAYS, ALWAYS! be left alone, period. Unconstitutional is unconstitutional, whether the majority care or not. Keeping the vote away from women was unconstitutional and violated the Bill of Rights long before society decided to accept it. Keeping the vote away from blacks, and banning interracial marriage, was unconstitutional and against the Bill of Rights long before society decided to accept it. There is NO reason to oppose same-sex marriage. The excuse that it hurts families is complete and utter bull. It does not. No one is being forced to condone same-sex marriage, no one is being forced to get into other people's business, and the marriage of two people does not affect the lives of everyone around the country. Marriage is a legal matter, NOT a religious one. Marriage has existed for centuries around the world without Christianity. There is no law banning atheists from getting married, because it would be simply ridiculous, so why do you think that argument would work here? I have no respect for people who oppose same-sex marriage, and I have even less respect for those who are too cowardly to admit they hate homosexuals and try to throw out lousy, faulty reasoning. Shame on you.


And our latest pms:

Sorry, but that's total and utter bullshit. Screaming that the end of the world will come if same-sex marriage is kept legal is insane. You've yet to say what the hell it has to do with anything. My data isn't "serious"? ((I had provided her with research that showed children of homosexual parents were happier)) You've yet to provide one single fact for your arguments that same-sex marriage hurts children or society, and I've provided statistics that it does the exact opposite for children. You're a joke.


There are over 50 years of data, research, articles, studies etc... that show that the best environment for a child to grow up is having a father and a mother who love each other. You should make the effort to educate yourself There is also thousand of years of experience on the matter from all civilisations religious or not May be you did not have that experience in your own life. That would be very unfortunate. You can still try to provide it to you children within the context of marriage and a life commitment. If you are religious , it could be an eternal commitment. Your children are your children for eternity. There is a story coming from England today about a girl that is suing the government because she still want ot know who is her real biological father. Parenting, blood lineage is something the Homosexuals will not be able to break. If you want to go against God , you will eventually loose. That is 100% sure. Men have rebell against Him before Marksists tried to erase marriage when they took over Russia. It failed. This is the same thing all over again for different reasons
So, you're going to make it illegal for single parents to raise their children because it isn't perfect and doesn't fit into your narrow worldview? Enough with the damn double standards! Either you need a mother and father to raise a child each and every time, and marriage is only okay if there are children being produced ever, or stop being so dishonest, two faced, and full of double standards. And spare me your self-righteous, useless and proof-less rantings about "God".

Come on poison, because people are broken for all kind of different reasons does not change what the ideal of marriage is. The same people that are pushing gay marriage wer pushing no fault divorces. They are the same people pushing promiscuous life style, pornography, so called comprehensive condom educations... I am not falling for you trap. It takes two to marry, one to divorce. Many single parents had divorce forced on them. The state supports divorce, It is a multi billion dollar business. Most people in prison did not have a father at home. Homosexual marriages with adoption are just one more nail into the coffin of marriage

That's right, totally ignore my points because they prove you wrong. You have yet to explain to me why you want to make it illegal for homosexuals to marry eachother--which has nothing to do with children--because "children need two parents" yet single parents can raise children. If you refuse to answer that point, I'll assume you're admitting you're wrong.

Every child is born from a sperm and an egg. These are the parents. In same sex scenario, one or both are not the biological parents. If two men want to pretend they are the parents and want ot play house that is insane demented, sick and delusional. I am not for single parent adoption either. That is wrong. Children need bot a mother and a father. If because of death or divorce, one of the parent is not present, it is much harder for the other to raise his or her children. In the case of sms couples they may not even be by design the real parents of the child. They have to find a throw awy father or mother that will sell his body for money. What an devolution
I'm sorry, but who gave you the right to decide how other people live their lives? Again, WOULD YOU OR WOULD YOU NOT make it illegal for single parents to raise children? Stop trying to wiggle your way out of it. Yes or no.

Your question is absurd. Some parents start together and divorce later, some parents may die and one is left to raise their children. Some woman may become pregnant out of wedlock and marry later trying to provide a stepfather to her child. I would certainly want to stop adoption like Michael Jackson did. Single people should not adopt children. In all case you want to help repair unhealthy families even after people have made mistakes for the good of the society. Same sex marriage are not marriage to begin with. It is a new creation that will bring even more damage to society. Within the framework of natural marriage people can lie, commit adultary, etc.... and destroy their marriage. Their family and society pay the price dearly. A new structure like gay marriage open the door to so many formats that it will ultimatly destroy marriage. Another name will have to be found that will apply to what marriage is. People who want to live that way will have to move and create another prosperous country. People left Europe to be free of religious persecution. They will have to leave America to protect their family from a decadent society. I am looking at my options as I will not live in a country doomed to fail because the basic institution of the family is the corner stone of society. Gay activists are open to destroy it in order to get their sexual attractions validated. Me and my family do not have to be part of it.

You aren't a part of it, you ignorant...jeezus. I'm sorry, but people have a right to have children out of wedlock whether you like it or not. Now yes or no. Would you or would you not make it illegal for single parents to have children? Without a father, ever?

We do not have the right to act in a selfdestructive manner. It hurts us and others too. They is not right in doing arm. There is free will. This means that we are ultimately responsible for actions good or bad No one has stopped gays to live their lifestyle . If single parents by choice where to call their life style marriage and ask what they do to be recognized as marriage, I would do everything in my power to work with other people to stop it. It would be the same situation we have today with gays asking their lifestyle to be accepted as marriage

But you're arguing that children have to have two parents, a mother and a father. I said nothing about marriage. Last time, stop trying to weasel out of it, would you or would you not make being a single parent by choice illegal? Self-destructive? I'm sorry, but you're full of crap. Homosexuality is not self-destructive. If anything, it's good, because we have a global overpopulation problem and too many children without homes. I find it amazing that you consider yourself pro-family yet want to take children away from loving homes if the parents are homosexual, and that you'd rather spend all of your time fighting love than fighting starvation, homelessness, child abuse, or any number of REAL evils in the world. I'm sorry, I have to ask--are you a parody or something?

Biologically children have two parents :a father and a mother. Every human being since the beginning of time and for good reason are conceived and born in such a way. Concerning single parenting, I already answered the question. Your point about overpopulation and homosexuality does not make sense to me.


Wow, you're just... For the last damn time, STOP weaseling. It is incredibly dishonest and shameful of you. I'll say this nice and slow. Would you or would you not make single parenting by choice illegal ?


I already answered in clear details.

You did not, my little weasel, you. All you ever gave as an answer was: "If single parents by choice where to call their life style marriage and ask what they do to be recognized as marriage, I would do everything in my power to work with other people to stop it. It would be the same situation we have today with gays asking their lifestyle to be accepted as marriage" Yet I said not a thing about marriage. I simply asked if you would make it illegal for single parents (who are single by choice) to raise their child or children alone. You've weaseled or refused to answer for several PMs now. Is that because you realize you're wrong?


Unmarried single mother or father finding some throw away father or mother to get children and raise them alone is immoral, selfish, unconscionable and should be stopped. It should be illegal yes especially if they want to get the approval of society by asking for special rights and call it marriage. It is as shamefull at what sms people do to steal marriage.

Okay. Now I know you're a nutcase. I will make sure people know, okay? Hope you don't mind. And btw, yet again you act like single parents want to pretend their married. Where are you getting these crazy ideas?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:45 am


One word. Roflcopter.

I should have a conversation with this nutcase. You're 300% right.

Raziel Hotokashi


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:29 am


Current.com, username Soleil10 is her. Two other homophobes just as nuts are nessie00 and ******** her up > biggrin

Most recently is this conversation, can you believe how ******** up she is?

http://current.com/items/89475360_gay_propaganda_for_5_year_old_children_in_california

She refused to answer any of my points and just left xD
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:25 am


In time like this I like to ask myself: What Would Che Do?

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