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 Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:52 am
I'm reading a book at the moment called "Trickster Makes This World" (by Lewis Hyde). It delves into the contributions of Trickster spirits and deities to cultures and societies.
Not that that's actually relevant to the conversation but I thought I'd mention it in case anyone wanted to pick it up or something.
Discussion is as follows:
Is there a "Trickster" figure - or figures - in the pantheon or pantheons you honour? Do you personally honour this deity in your practise? What have your interactions been?
Feel free to speculate at length about Tricksters in general and yours in particular.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:23 am
I've been connected to Eris since i was a child, though I did not know her by that name until somewhen in the 90s when I found the Principia Discordia. I don't really think of her as a trickster, though I understand some do.
I'm also connected to the Aesir through Odin, and among them is Loki who is most definitely a trickster. Generally I prefer to avoid attention of tricksters because even if they like you they tend to make things "interesting". Of course I won't take it to the lengh of shunning such a deity because if they want your attention and you ignore them the will simply move on to something more obvious and probably less pleasant to get your attention.
When Eris was snubbed she threw an apple, knowing that the goddesses would argue over which of them it was meant for. I think most of you know the results of that little "gift".
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:10 pm
Ah, the Original Snub. Good times.
The author talks of Trickster as a specific archetype. While Eris may be tricky, she's not a Trickster, as she isn't a catalyst for change or a bringer of culture. The author even excludes Prometheus; while he is certainly a culture-bringer and works for the benefit of humanity with his tricks, he can't weasel himself out of things like a true Trickster figure.
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:24 am
I've a little bit of an affinity with Tricksters. Maybe it's a cosmic backlash to my horrible case of Foot In Mouth Disease.
I call it Fool's Grace. It's the lesson the Trickster's in my life have taught me. Most of the myths I know about Tricksters including Loki, Raven, Coyote, Papa Legba, Pan and the god I am seeking all have one thing in common- the stumble and roll technique. Things get "interesting" and they trip but roll back up onto their feet.
I know some people who get really upset when they hear about Trickster deities being worshiped. I think it's because they don't get the whole "somersault back onto your feet" thing.
I figure life is going to be "Interesting" no matter what. s**t happens, ya know? But I think that "roll with the punches" lesson is very important- so I honor them when they kick my door down.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:31 am
Tircksters are...interesting. They're not bad, despite some folks assertions, but they are often ambiguous. Of course, I know most about Loki. He causes a lot of trouble but he also tends to fix things when the other Gods are out of ideas. For me one of his defining characteristics is his tenacity. He pretty much finishes what he starts, wherever that may take him or those around him. I don't deal with a lot of Trickster types personally but I don't have any issues with them either.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:17 pm
In my creation mythos, the Demiurge and his Archons would be considered tricksters. The Demiurge set the grand illusion into place by convincing people that the shadows on the walls of the cave are all there is to reality. The Archons are commissioned to do whatever they can to keep the world working. You can't suppress either them because your still doing what they want you to do. Much like the child that shops at Hot Topic because they think they are being a non-conformist.
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