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 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:36 pm
One thing I really hate is how people treat and react to other people that have a mental illness. The general public doesn't see how serious mental illness can be. They can be mocking them and not even know. I don't see how calling someone a psycho or insane is normal. Because I mean, if someones friend is just acting hyper or whatever, they'll say something like "Why are you acting psycho?" like its some kind of joke. People think mental illness is some sort of contagious freak disease. It is in a way but if some one knows someone or hears about some one that has a mental illness then they usually immediatly catagorize them as freaks or killers or whatever. Basically someone they wouldn't want to be around. But even worse is people like psychological doctors and people that run and work at mental hospitals. I have never been in one or had a psych doctor but I know about them. First, people that know you, once they find out that your "Ill", they rat you out to a psyche doctor. Then they make you go see them and tell them your whole life story. Then, they analyze everything youv'e told them and they then sort you out. They find out what's wrong with you and figure out the severity of it. Most of the time they fear you are a danger to the general public . So they prescribe a bunch of s**t so your drugged up all the time, thus supposedly protecting the public. Sometimes they even lock you up like your some kind of dangerous beast that can't even live on their own. Dont get me wrong, there are some people that can't live "normally" on their own, but living in the institute isnt any better for them. So they are pretty much trying to cleanse the public, trying to weed out the ill and protect the "normal" citizens. But its funny how they want to "protect" the "normal" people from the Ill ones and want them to feel good and safe, but at the same time they treat the ill people badly so that they dont feel safe,good, or protected. They just want to weed out the mess ups and have a pure normal human race. I really hate how they do all this. But one other thing that I want to know is people that are on medication. I know most that are on it need it but dont you feel like inferior? Feel like they are controling you and just drug you with medication just to rid of you? These are just my thoughts and I wanted to get them out. Sorry If I offended anyone,and If I have grammer/spelling mistakes, or if this shouldnt have been its own topic, but I just wanted to say it and wondered what people thought of it, disagree? agree? Anything. Thanks
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:47 pm
I don't agree at all. They're only trying to help. Perhaps in some cases, they're doing it to save the public. There are some people that are dangerous without meds, but you know what? Not only are they puting dangerous people on meds, but they're helping the dangerous ones to be better, too. They're suffering, so why not give them meds and therapy?
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:19 am
The public's opinion is very negative, and I agree with a lot of what you say. But I disagree with a few things. XxSheepSuicidexX666 First, people that know you, once they find out that your "Ill", they rat you out to a psyche doctor. Then they make you go see them. It's not that simple, so I don't want people who read this to get scared. Unless they're your parents and you're under 18, there's a long, difficult, legal process for anyone to "make" you see a p-doc, and you'd have to be a danger to yourself or others, or gravely disabled. XxSheepSuicidexX666 Most of the time they fear you are a danger to the general public . So they prescribe a bunch of s**t so your drugged up all the time, thus supposedly protecting the public. Again, I don't want people to read this and get too scared to go to the hospital. Most of the time, they don't fear that you're a danger to the general public. You have to want to harm yourself or others, and have the means to do it, or be so disabled that you're not capable of maintaining your own electrolyte balance. That meanst that, when I was detained at the hospital, I had to tell them that I was harming myself, tell them that I wasn't sure that I wouldn't do it again, and tell them that I had guns in my house. XxSheepSuicidexX666 But one other thing that I want to know is people that are on medication. I know most that are on it need it but dont you feel like inferior? Feel like they are controling you and just drug you with medication just to rid of you? People who have high blood pressure aren't "inferior" for having to take medication to stay alive. There are many diseases that can be helped with medication. The myth of personal weakness that is one of the reason the public dislikes the mentally ill. Many people in this Guild choose to manage their illnesses with medication, and that does not make them "inferior" or "controlled."
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:47 pm
I hate to say you sound a bit paranoid...you do make some good points, though. The severely mentally ill aren't treated as well as they should be; making a person too tired to hurt someone isn't taking away their wanting to hurt someone. It's not a cure, it's a crude mental prison. I'm studying pharmacy mostly because I want to cure mental illness, if nothing else I want to do that for humanity, for people like yourself, like the people in this guild, and like myself and my fiance.
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:52 pm
I agree that the public perception of mental illness is skewed, but although you hit the nail on the head at times, your view seems to have been coloured by this public perception. Although the public thinks that the mentally ill will hurt them, within the profession it is well documented that patients are far more likely to hurt themselves rather then others.
As for medication, if they wanted to control me then they'd take me off medication because I become completely incapable when I am.
Psychiatry is a bit of a hit and miss science, its in its infancy so they're not going to get everything right all the time, however it has come a long way in a short space of time. I do believe that the people I see are genuinely trying to do the right thing.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:21 am
I lose practically all the friends I make because of my mental problems. I find there's a real guilt issue. That if they push you away out of sight, they don't have to feel bad for not doing all they can. At the end of the day, most people don't want to have to deal with it. So they make excuses not to. And if they're not your friends, they don't have to deal with people saying, "Why didn't you try to help?" when things go really wrong. I had a friend who recently dumped me, because I told her I was going to try and kill myself, and she didn't take it seriously. Then she got a bit of crap about "Jeez, why didn't you try and talk her out of it?", and now she hates me. She dumped me, cause it was easier on her that way...
I lost my job as well, a few months back, when my employer found out I was on incapacity benefit for mental illness. (This is when you've been deemed unable to work by a doctor, and you get paid a certain amount a month so you don't have to work. The reason I was working parttime was to try and get back into it. I don't want to be on benefits all my life.) She basically told me I had to get a note from my doctor saying that I was "safe". She said, she trusted me, but the others were freaked. It was so insulting. I didn't bother getting a note. But it really shook my confidence - I was trying to be more "normal", for gods sakes, and I got treated like that because of it..!
As for my doctor... well, he just thinks the whole thing is a hilarious attention-seeking campaign.... I hate him so much...
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:59 pm
I can understand calling someone 'psycho' or a 'spazz' when they're too hyper or getting angry over nothing, but sometims people take it to far. When one of my teachers found out I had ADD (or was diagnosed with it at the time, idiot phsychiatrist scream ), she started talking to me slowly and giving me the 'special' class's assignment.
Another friend started complaining to me about having a panic attack. I know, I know, I shouldn't b***h about that. But it was because some guy had called her fat, so she just didn't say anything for a few minutes, and then whined for a while. I don't think that's a panic attack, I think that's having your feelings hurt by a stupid jackass. I told her that it didn't seem that bad to me, but she had my support. She launched into this whole rant about how her life was so horrible and she had anxiety so bad it was going to kill her. I told her what happened to me (long story, not going to waste bandwith angsting on here), and she still kept up with it.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:01 pm
I'm sorry, and I seem to be the only person who feels this way, but I found the original post to be more than a bit insulting. YES, the public has a negative view of mental illness, and they should be more understanding. Perhaps organizations for the mentally ill should work educating the public more as well as lobbying and working to change political policy.
But: Mental health professionals are trying to HELP people who are having problems, and anyone who says differently has never been to a competant one. People who are sent to the hospital aren't sent there because people don't want to deal with them, they're generally sent there or go there voluntarily because they are at risk of hurting themselves or need more structured care than they can receive within the community. Longer term care facilities and group homes are extremely helpful for many people. Medication isn't, I repeat, IS NOT used to "control you" or "get rid of you." I don't even know how that would work, it doesn't make you into a different person, nor do meds make you stop having problems entirely. Moreove, why would I feel inferior because I choose to manage my illness with medication? The stigma that medication is for the weak is one that infuriates me to no end. People take antibiotics when they have an infection and no one says that they're weak for not fighting off the infection by themselves.
Sorry, guys, but this kind of thing is a major pet peeve of mine. Grr.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:44 am
Llelwyn Medication isn't, I repeat, IS NOT used to "control you" or "get rid of you." I don't even know how that would work, it doesn't make you into a different person, nor do meds make you stop having problems entirely. People take antibiotics when they have an infection and no one says that they're weak for not fighting off the infection by themselves. Amen to that.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:39 pm
Llelwyn I'm sorry, and I seem to be the only person who feels this way, but I found the original post to be more than a bit insulting. YES, the public has a negative view of mental illness, and they should be more understanding. Perhaps organizations for the mentally ill should work educating the public more as well as lobbying and working to change political policy. There are organizations out there working on fighting stigma. Look into National Alliance for the Mentally Ill. SAMHSA Stigma- Do you know the facts?
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:48 pm
I'm so glad that I'm not the only person that feels that way. It sorta makes me feel like psychiatrists are Nazis. (Hell, Hans Asperger might have been a Nazi, but the psychyatrists don't tell anyone wether he was one or not! surprised ) I dunno, maybe it's the anti-bogit in me standing up for what is right, but I say that these "professionals" will not treat my children like untamable beasts. I want people to be themselves, so we can all be truly free. All we need is tender love and care, and that's not what these shrinks are providing.
I never liked psychologists or guidance couselors. They never helped me at all. The only person who really helped me through my emotional hardships were my few friends and my mother. So pretty much, I say about psychiatry adn psychology; PROFESSIONALS MY a**! People who acually care about you are the real shrinks!
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