if i got the owner to let me put a forum for a Assassin faction would anyone join? Because i think Invictus needs some assassins to take out them royalties or anyone that wants to harm the good people of invictus no?
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:00 pm
Well it would be hard to maneuver cause the mercenary faction already exists and they have all kinds of talents, from stealth killers to thieves, to hired hands, to odd job kind of fighters.
Well it would be hard to maneuver cause the mercenary faction already exists and they have all kinds of talents, from stealth killers to thieves, to hired hands, to odd job kind of fighters.
I know but Mercenaries are paid to get stuff done, at least that IS what mercenaries are. Assassins protect the citizens by killing the corrupted officials and bad people who would make the life of citizens harder and worse for free.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:49 pm
So you are talking more of an assassins creed style faction then? One who does nothing but fights for a cause they feel is 'right'?
I have several assassin characters....but I really don't see how they are so different from mercenaries... OR...how you would play it for the Assassins to protect people in a city both wholly corrupt and currently with out clear leadership. It's pretty much solid anarchy...killing the big ants in the hill isn't going to make the rest fall in line.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:27 am
An Assassin isn't defined as somebody who wares hood and fights stealthy an assassin is somebody who murders another for ether a hired contract or for a certain cause so really the mercenary faction is the Assassin faction so making an assassin faction and basing it off of a game would kinda ruin things I mean really everybody els is rping in this mystical world and your faction will be what? jumping form buildings killing NPCs look it's a good thought but I say the mercenary faction already has Assassins in its ranks so it would be but a waist to make an Assassin's Faction so just be an Assassin and join the mercenary faction or just be an Assassin by yourself I think making a faction is to much when there is already a faction with assassins
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:55 am
Sierik
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Well it would be hard to maneuver cause the mercenary faction already exists and they have all kinds of talents, from stealth killers to thieves, to hired hands, to odd job kind of fighters.
I know but Mercenaries are paid to get stuff done, at least that IS what mercenaries are. Assassins protect the citizens by killing the corrupted officials and bad people who would make the life of citizens harder and worse for free.
Well currently it is up to me to approve such a faction because Mercy is uberly busy and has tasked me with tending to the guild when I can get on, anywho. I am sure this guy has more reasons so let him speak. I would like to here his reasons to see if they make sense or not. I agree that mercenaries and assassins are quite similar however perhaps his idea is much different.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:56 pm
Draka The Solitary
So you are talking more of an assassins creed style faction then? One who does nothing but fights for a cause they feel is 'right'?
Well it would be hard to maneuver cause the mercenary faction already exists and they have all kinds of talents, from stealth killers to thieves, to hired hands, to odd job kind of fighters.
If they already have thieves why is there a thieves faction? And if thieves can be in a mercenary faction when they technically should be in the thieves guild. So, it's alright to have thieves in a separate faction but can't have assassins in a separate faction? I just was thinking about something that the guild didn't have. I that Invictus should have some people who protect the weaker people and kill the higher ups because they think it's right.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:24 pm
Lol perhaps I should have made it a little clearer the relationship between the thieves and the mercenaries make them work together due to the leadership and a prior history between the two, alot of the times they move together that is why their are thieves in the mercenaries and killers in the thieves.
As far as the assassins go I will get in touch with the VC and captain and see if they think it is a good idea with the reasons you have presented. smile I was never discrediting you just so you know.
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:20 am
Sierik
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Well it would be hard to maneuver cause the mercenary faction already exists and they have all kinds of talents, from stealth killers to thieves, to hired hands, to odd job kind of fighters.
If they already have thieves why is there a thieves faction? And if thieves can be in a mercenary faction when they technically should be in the thieves guild. So, it's alright to have thieves in a separate faction but can't have assassins in a separate faction? I just was thinking about something that the guild didn't have. I that Invictus should have some people who protect the weaker people and kill the higher ups because they think it's right.
would that not just make them rebels instead of assassins i do believe he has a right to voice his opinion but maybe it shouldn't be an assassins guild just a rebel like faction that has assassins because having a guild under such name would mean that all assassins would have to be in said guild or that only people in said guild can be assassins when anybody can defend the weak not just an assassin which I should point out again that an assassin isn't what the game Assassin's Creed makes them out to be an assassin is just somebody who goes out to kill a person for money or a cause and I believe in Assassin's Creed you weren't actually going out of you'r way to protect the weak but where killing people under contracts for the Creed then in number 2 revenging your family then brother hood killing the people who attacked you and killed you'r uncle then in revelations protecting the orb of Eden or what ever it is called then in the new one helping a revaluation but i have gone way off track now but you should highly think about making this a guild this could be a breaking point for the guild if it doesn't go right due to the fact that you would be basing it off a game
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:26 pm
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Lol perhaps I should have made it a little clearer the relationship between the thieves and the mercenaries make them work together due to the leadership and a prior history between the two, alot of the times they move together that is why their are thieves in the mercenaries and killers in the thieves.
As far as the assassins go I will get in touch with the VC and captain and see if they think it is a good idea with the reasons you have presented. smile I was never discrediting you just so you know.
Well it would be hard to maneuver cause the mercenary faction already exists and they have all kinds of talents, from stealth killers to thieves, to hired hands, to odd job kind of fighters.
If they already have thieves why is there a thieves faction? And if thieves can be in a mercenary faction when they technically should be in the thieves guild. So, it's alright to have thieves in a separate faction but can't have assassins in a separate faction? I just was thinking about something that the guild didn't have. I that Invictus should have some people who protect the weaker people and kill the higher ups because they think it's right.
would that not just make them rebels instead of assassins i do believe he has a right to voice his opinion but maybe it shouldn't be an assassins guild just a rebel like faction that has assassins because having a guild under such name would mean that all assassins would have to be in said guild or that only people in said guild can be assassins when anybody can defend the weak not just an assassin which I should point out again that an assassin isn't what the game Assassin's Creed makes them out to be an assassin is just somebody who goes out to kill a person for money or a cause and I believe in Assassin's Creed you weren't actually going out of you'r way to protect the weak but where killing people under contracts for the Creed then in number 2 revenging your family then brother hood killing the people who attacked you and killed you'r uncle then in revelations protecting the orb of Eden or what ever it is called then in the new one helping a revaluation but i have gone way off track now but you should highly think about making this a guild this could be a breaking point for the guild if it doesn't go right due to the fact that you would be basing it off a game
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:37 pm
L, silence.
Look. There is an immense difference between thieves and Merc's. The Merc faction are hired hands. Anyone willing to whore out their skills for a couple gold coins. Fighters, thieves, assassins, thugs, Draka, etc.
Now the thieves? The thieves is a syndicate of underground activity. Smuggling, stealing, etc. Their goal is not to be kings, queens, etc. Their goal is for the lower tiers to scrape by. The middle tiers to get quite wealthy while keeping lower tiers occupied. The upper tier wants to control everything in the city from behind the curtains. The highest ranking want to have every noble, rich a*****e, and royalty in their pocket. So they can live in leisure without a day of honest work.
The merc's? They kill people, beat the crap outa people, and guard s**t for payments that will buy them a whore, a hot meat, and a comfy bed.
Saying the two are the same is ignorant.
Now, an assassins guild? Yes, this HAS been brought up. Over and over. Sierik what you want is a vigilanties guild. Fighting for the poor, taking from the rich, keeping justice. That is not an assassins guild. Assassins creed is about A single assassin. The group in assassins creed HAS assassins but it also has an army. An army that tries to fight the evils across the land. They use assassins for alot of the work. BUT, they have close to a standing army. Able to withstand a protracted siege. I am only considering the first game cause its the only one in the right time period for this RP. So, you dont want an assassins guild. An assassins guild would have to be a neutral entity. They are hired hands. Assassins are tools. Daggers in the night. They are not figure heads. They are not saviors of the weak-- on a whole atleast.
An assassins faction would not work. However an assassins group or guild might. I spoke to draka about this already, but dont worry about it right now.
Look, if you want to be an assassin do what everyone else has done, and go to any of the factions. If you dont want to have any loyalty's at all? Dont join a faction. If you want to overthrow the royals and defend the innocent? The rebels are empty.
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