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Brandon Yamata
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:23 pm


There seem to be many grey areas in our eilgablity criteria, so I'm putting this thread up to dicuss them. I would like to discuss the case of one potential member in particular who would like to join out guild. In a note she wrote to me she informed me that she was the step-mother of three adult children and the step grandmother of four small ones. She has very strong anti child views all the same, and would never have kids of her own. She posted this in my thread:

LOL I've been told that, too...mainly by my Mom who desperately wants grandchildren (and I'm her only child). Conversation really went south after I came off with some wiseassed remark about there being enough piss in our gene pool already....

I think she would make a good member, but it is up to us as a whole guild to decide. Your thoughts and opinions please. Also if you have suggestions for making our cirteria more clear, it would also be helpful.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:34 pm


As long as she is mature and has no plans to have children or tell us about children and how wonderful they are, there shouldn't be any problem at all. To me, the definition of this place is a safe forum where we can all be safe from the people who say things like, "You're just pathetic because you want your own time and money" and "Children are wonderful! Go have 15! I know I have, and I live wonderfully in a shed in my childfree brother's backyard!"

failsafe


XeeReiji

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:38 pm


Yes I think she should join.

Just because you date and get married does not mean we should exclude just because your mate already has kids.

I have no problem just as long as pictures and praise stories start don't start coming up
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:00 pm


failsafe
As long as she is mature and has no plans to have children or tell us about children and how wonderful they are, there shouldn't be any problem at all. To me, the definition of this place is a safe forum where we can all be safe from the people who say things like, "You're just pathetic because you want your own time and money" and "Children are wonderful! Go have 15! I know I have, and I live wonderfully in a shed in my childfree brother's backyard!"
I agree 100% here. She's fine so long as she doesn't start saying that stuff. I really doubt she would say that anyway after reading her posts.

As far as making the membership eligibility rules clearer, I'm not sure. It really needs to be taken on a case by case basis. Perhaps there should be a sticky for iffy would-be members where the guild as a whole could review it before accepting/declining.

Of course, as soon as ANY member starts saying stuff like "You'll change your minds", "Your selfish", and "Kids are great!" they should be given the boot.

EDIT: Sorry, this Calitar. I forgot that Ayasugii was still logged in. sweatdrop

Destruction Kitty


Brandon Yamata
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:34 pm


That would be a good idea. I may just sticky this thread for that purpose. Seems like everyone so far doesn't mind. If there are any desenters, please speak up, otherwise I see no reason why we should allow her in.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:55 pm


Sounds to me like she'll fit in as long as she remains true to what she said. And, as others have put forth, if she starts showing...unfavorable signs, we can always boot her. 3nodding

As for making this thread a sticky for each questionable potential member...well, to the best of my knowledge, you can't reset polls, so you'd have to rely on the posts themselves. Which isn't a bad thing at all, mind you; just means taking a bit more effort. Meh, just something that came to mind.

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Brandon Yamata
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:03 pm


Good point, but it would also be time consuming to creat a thread for every questionable member so that we could have a poll for each one.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:19 pm


Polls strike me as kind of silly and arbitrary, anyway. Posting opinions is more thoughtful, and shows more respect to the people whose potential membership is being reviewed. 3nodding

Yes, it is actually Aya this time. That post above was the result of me wandering off to the kitchen to prepare some food, and forgetting to log out first. >_<

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:51 am


I say let her in and sticky the thread. It's the easiest thing to do and the best I think. She should do well here.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:59 am


I am all for letting her in, but I would like to know one thing. Were her step-children adults when she married their father or did she help raised them? I still think we should let her in either way. It is just something I would like to know and something some people might want to know before voting.

Pilose

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Azer Fireangel

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:41 am


She has no kids? She never wants kids? Ok, so she suffered from temporary insanity and married someone that had them. I don't see why we should hold that against her.

Like the majority so far has said, if it becomes a problem, boot her. I don't see much difference between letting a P-NB in, and letting in minors. We're already doing one, and it has yet to cause issues.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:15 pm


Samoe
I am all for letting her in, but I would like to know one thing. Were her step-children adults when she married their father or did she help raised them? I still think we should let her in either way. It is just something I would like to know and something some people might want to know before voting.


Heya all! biggrin Sincerest thanks to all who have agreed to give me this chance to belong here. Before I wander over to the introduction thread to share just why I am here (and no, it will NEVER be to tell you how cute and cuddly these devious monsters are...*gags @ thought*), I wanted to stop by and address this concern.

Only one of the three was an adult when my husband and I got together, but the other two were with their mother. I had no hand in raising them except for what had to be the longest few months of my life when his daughter, who was 17 at the time, lived with us. The adult son had just committed suicide, and the daughter was on probation for...something (I don't even remember). Her mother was done with the situation completely, and out of respect and love for my husband, I didn't want to see him lose his daughter too (the only other option was juvenile hall).

Now, I had decided by age 11 that I would never have children of my own (more on that later in the other thread), but having that child with me confirmed any doubt I had about the situation. She was a liar, a thief, refused to work or go to school, got pregnant with her 1st kid, invaded my privacy on numerous occasions, and got us thrown out of our apartment because she had 'company' every day while we were working.

When she had her son, I visited her place and babysat often. Babysitting was a thrill for me..only because I was 26/27 at the time, and had never had the opportunity to do so for anyone else. A thrill..until the screaming started and I remembered just exactly why kids irk me. Three days and two nights worth of shrill shrieks...I think my ears are still bleeding.

At any rate, I have not seen any of the kids or grandkids since my father-in-law passed away in '02. My husband says now that he has no children..has disowned them for being the ungrateful brats they are. In fact, we just moved 4 states over without even letting them know we've gone. We're childfree..animals are our children now. The messes aren't as big, and they can't mouth off or beg for money. This is the life! biggrin Hope my presence here is still acceptable. sweatdrop

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Brandon Yamata
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:34 am


Sounds like you represent the sprit of our guild well. More so because you have experiance what it's really like and know for absolute certain you want to be childfree. Glad you joined.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:05 pm


Welcome! My condolences for what you've gone through...now it's the life! Animals are wonderful aren't they?! My calico cat Marbles is my baby, I've had her for ten years...yaay! I think they can be more loving than kids, because they're ALWAYS there, they love you UNCONDITIONALLY no matter how you look or what you say (as long as you treat them well) and they NEVER hurt you...plus you don't have to spend 2-48 hours bleeding, screaming and half naked in front of medical professionals to get one xd food, water, kitty box and a few toys...and we have a love and understanding of each other like no other...sometimes i actually feel bad if i leave home for more than three days because i know she's there alone.....jeebus i've been blabbing enough....sorry guys! sweatdrop

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Tatiana73

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:28 pm


Brandon Taylor
Sounds like you represent the sprit of our guild well. More so because you have experiance what it's really like and know for absolute certain you want to be childfree. Glad you joined.


LOL yes, experience is a great teacher, but it also greatly saddens me that so many young people who have made the decision to be childfree through experiences of their own get hassled about it. This guild is a fabulous creation, and I'm glad to be here. Thanks for the invitation. smile
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