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CarathePinkPanda

PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:13 pm


Ok if this is in the wrong place I'm sorry and will move it as soon as I can. sweatdrop

Well my friends and I were talking about Labyrinth and one of my friends (Star) asked why Jareth didn't look anything like any of the goblins and my other friend (Annie) said that she thought Jareth may be a faery, cause if you remember near the beginning when Sarah first enters the Labyrinth there are fairies flying around that Hoggle is spraying and she thinks that they looked a lot like Jareth,

I have a book that tells me everything I need to know about Faeries and such; I can verify her strong hunch that Jareth is a Faery. The handy list below
shows the striking similarities. All references are from A Dictionary of Fairies: Hobgoblins, Brownies, Bogies and Other Supernatural Creatures, by Katherine Briggs, Penguin Books, London, 1976.

1. Faeries possess glamour. They use this type of magic to manipulate a mortal's senses so that he or she perceives surroundings as more glamorous than they really are.
In other words, Faeries are masters of illusion.
Jareth transforms a crystal ball into a snake that turns into a scarf,
then a goblin. Any of Jareth's tricks or distortions involving mirrors,
notably the whole ballroom in a bubble scene, also are illusions.

2. Faeries can shapeshift, "a magical accomplishment, common to greater or
lesser degree to Faeries, wizards and witches".
Jareth's transmogrification in and out of the form of an owl at the beginning and end is a prime example. Also, arguably, his constant clothes changing are another form of metamorphosis!

3. Faeries love to dance. It is the "festive exercise most widely
attributed to the faeries, large or small. Beautiful or hideous Faeries
are alike adept at it".
As for Jareth two words: "Magic Dance." Need I say more?

4. Faeries enjoy music. In the entry on "Sports of the Faeries," Briggs
describes how a Faery may reveal its Faery nature by singing and dancing
to itself. Faery music is described as entrancing, Faery voices beautiful
in tone.
Any of the tracks from the soundtrack prove Jareth's musical inclinations.

5. For all their seeming gaiety, Faeries seem to have some suppressed
melancholy or darkness to their characters. "Faeryland is again and again
described as a place of endless delight and sparkling beauty, but there
are dark whispers that suggest that this is the delusion of glamour and
that under the gaiety there is a restless, unsatisfied yearning". Jareth is clearly bored and quite possibly lonely, if not depressed. Even if you don't believe that he's in love with Sarah, you've got to admit that the tones with which he delivers "Within You" express some sadness.

6. Faeries steal kids. "The eagerness of Faeries to possess themselves of
human children is one of the oldest parts of the Faery beliefs and is a
specific form of Faery theft." They are stolen either to pay a tithe to
Hell, to interbreed with Faeries or to delight the Faeries with their
beauty. Mothers must go on quests to retrieve their children.
Jareth steals Toby. Why he does so is not quite clear. He may want to turn Toby into a goblin ("You have thirteen hours in which to solve the Labyrinth before your baby brother becomes one of us forever," he says to Sarah). But he also seems to admire Toby's looks and potential as an heir when he says, "He's a lively little chap. I think I'll call him Jareth. He's got my eyes." And of course Sarah has to
go on a quest to prevent Jareth's success.

7. Faeries can also be romantically attracted to younger mortals. "The
capture of beautiful young women to be brides to Faery kings or princes
is almost as common as that of nursing mothers'" If we believe Sarah's tale, Jareth loves her. Sarah tells Toby explicitly,
"The King of the Goblins had fallen in love with the girl [Sarah herself],
and he had given her certain powers".

8. Faeries exist in different time zones than those on Earth. For example.
Briggs summarizes the tale of Bran son of Febal, lured away to the Faery
isle of Emhain. He returns after what he thinks is a year, only to find
that many generations have passed in the real world. Jareth "reorders time and turns the world upside-down." The Labyrinth runs on what appears to be a twenty-six-hour day (13 x 2 = 26). Also note that thirteen hours in the Labyrinth equal much less time in Sarah's world. (When Sarah arrives home to baby-sit, it is after 7:00 PM. When she kicks Jareth out, the clock rings midnight, and her parents come home.)

9. Eating faery food traps one in the faery realm. There are many examples
in Briggs' compendium of human visitors to Faeryland warned not to eat or
drink any Faery food. If they do, they will be trapped forever in
Faeryland. She even refers to a young woman, who, "worn out with hunger
and thirst, plucks a beautiful gold plum and begins to eat it." She
falls into a faint and wakes up surrounded by jeering Faeries, in a manner very reminiscent of Sarah's enchantment by Jareth's peach. "It is certain," Briggs observes, "that all the food served in Faeryland was spiced and transformed by glamour [see above]". Sarah, who woke up in the junkyard and discovered that there was a worm in her snack, would certainly agree.
Sarah's ingestion of the magical peach almost traps her in the dream
bubble. Since Jareth procures this magical fruit, we can assume that it is
Faery food.

Jareth, as a Faery, exhibits many standard characteristics of his kind,
but he sustains our interest because he is anything but stereotypical.
Sure, he loves to sing, but it's booty-shaking rock-'n'-roll that he
grooves on, not some fey melody. Sure, he steals the kid, but it's the
kid's sister he's really after. And sure, he's handsome and seductive, but
his vanity and fashion sense put him in a class by himself. His creators
have made him as an age-old Faery, but a rather cool one, with unique
twists that make him much more memorable.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:10 am


Wow! Thats some interesting info there! ^^

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:40 pm


Oh, I think Jareth is a fairy, no doubt about it.

Some people think he's a sylph, which I could also see.

Just because he's the Goblin King, doesn't mean he is one... 3nodding A goblin, I mean... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:35 pm


Hmm... interesting point.

One you left out is that a majority of the goblins seem to be somewhat on the dimwitted side, while Jareth shows a prankish intelligence often attributed to fairies.

I think what likely happened is that goblins and fairies got lumped together into fae, and that's what Jareth is King of.

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 3:05 pm


whee So great. ^^
PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:39 pm


Interesting....I've thought about that too....I've also been asked about this character, rayn, since I created her for roleplays as Jareth's Daughter.....I keep getting told that I never look like a goblin...<<;;

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:52 pm


But I think you'd just refer to him as a fae, after all calling Jareth a fairy sounds strange.
PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:17 pm


o.O; *tries picturing Jareth as a fairy with wings* @_@; bad mental image sorry...doesn't seem to work....

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:45 pm


^see!
~he's a fae, they are way less "fairy" looking, and more seductive.
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:51 pm


*goes to do her homework on Fairy and fae*

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:21 pm


*comes back* Well....o.O; I'm discovering they're suppose to come out with a manga as a sequel to the film...<<;; provided it's not out yet....

http://tokyopop.com/news/press2005/2005_hensen.php

Although...

Definitions:

Goblin - is an evil or merely mischievous creature of folklore, often described as a grotesquely disfigured or elf-like phantom.
Description

Goblins are grotesque faeries of about dwarf height. Various (sometimes conflicting) abilities and attributes have been given to them.
heart <---- things Jareth Does!
1. They can appear as animals. heart
2. They are sometimes said to be mostly invisible to human eye.
3. They are said to count the dead among their companions.
4. They can weave nightmares out of gossamer and insert them into the ear of a sleeping human.
5. They steal human women and children and hide them away underground. heart
6. Goblin women steal human babies, replacing them with ugly goblin babies (changelings).
7. They have a somewhat bestial appearance: their brow is fully covered with thick hair and their mouth is filled with yellowed, crooked teeth.
8. They have some traits of old men, which can include shortsightedness, but they are described as wiser than humans.
9. They sometimes eat humans.
10. They are sometimes described as being an entirely male race.
11. Female goblins are referred to as "hags" or "crones"
12. Goblins can grow to anywhere from 30 cm to 2 m tall.
13. Goblins are of the Unseelie Court, and war with fairies.
14. It is said that they mimic human actions in their sardonic way, twisting human rituals and culture to show the worst aspects.
15. A favorite sport among Goblins is playing deadly pranks on humans, gnomes, elfs, and dwarfs.
16. An infant goblin is referred to as a Snotling.
17. A group of goblins is referred to as a horde.
18. Much like their "good" counterparts, the Hobbits, Goblins love mushrooms, and utilize them for housing, recreation, and as food.
19. Goblins despise Hobbits, and consider them a delicacy.
20. In some circles, Goblins are considered to be the cousins of gnomes.
21. Goblins suffer from discrimination in almost all fantasy settings.
22. Goblins are often assosciated with fire, or have the ability to create said element
23. Goblins are usually portrayed as green in color.


Fairy - or faerie, is a spirit or supernatural being that is found in the legends, folklore, and mythology of many different cultures. They are generally human like in their appearance and have supernatural abilities such as the ability to fly, cast spells and to influence or foresee the future. Although in modern culture they are often depicted as young, sometimes winged, females of small stature, they originally were of a much different image: tall, angelic beings and short, wizened trolls being some of the commonly mentioned fay.

Pixie - mythical creatures of English folklore, considered to be particularly concentrated in the areas around Devon and Cornwall, suggesting some Celtic origin for the belief and name. In regional dialect, these mischievous little folk are sometimes referred to as piskies/piskeys or the little people. They are usually depicted as wingless, with pointed ears, and often wearing a green outfit and pointed hat. Sometimes their eyes are described as being pointed upwards at the temple ends.

Sprite - The term is generally used in reference to elf-like creatures, including fairies, dwarves, and the likes of it; but can also signify various spiritual beings, including ghosts. The term is chiefly used in regard to elves and fairies in European folklore, and in modern English is rarely used in reference to spirits or other mythical creatures.

AH-HA! Found it!

"Jareth the Goblin King, a powerful sorcerer (portrayed by David Bowie), commands a legion of foul, diminutive, largely incompetent creatures. The goblins initially do the bidding of a young girl (played by Jennifer Connelly), who must ultimately overcome her fear of them and resist seduction by their king." <<;; that should say EXACTLY What he is! He's a Sorcerer! XD

*dances all happylike*


Edit: Honestly I think he's a sorcerer but he has mixed bloodlines as he has bits and pieces of all these descriptions. o.O
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:48 am


You made some good points too I think you might be right it is much easier to picture him as a sorcerer then a faery. xd

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:03 pm


o.O Think about it!!! We never see his ears!!!! The ears!!! << >> << No ears being shown so how are we to know? besides! Sorces say he's a sorcerer!!! XP
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:11 pm


Faery folk in folklore are human looking except, of course, gifted with magic and grace. They basically were immortal, liked to screw with humans' lives, and loved games. They had this thing that once you said something it was a binding contract. The way the mythology book goes on about it makes one think about Irish/English demi-gods or something.

It's not until later in the 19th century that Victorian people attributed to them the little pixy wings and Tinkerbell look, and even then they were supposed to be the souls of dead people, not actual Fae. (stupid Victorians)

So yeah, Jareth fits the characteristic of a Fae. Since he's rumored to be a sorceror then I suppose he's been spending a lot of time with Faes.

[/geeky rant]

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:33 pm


Perhaps. Will we ever know?

Maybe in the manga???
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